Re: default_table_access_method is not in sample config file

2019-08-17 Thread Michael Paquier
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 03:29:30PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> but I don't quite see GUCs like default_tablespace, search_path (due to
> determining a created table's schema), temp_tablespace,
> default_table_access_method fit reasonably well under that heading. They
> all can affect persistent state. That seems pretty different from a
> number of other settings (client_min_messages,
> default_transaction_isolation, lock_timeout, ...) which only have
> transient effects.

Agreed.

> Should we perhaps split that group? Not that I have a good proposal for
> better names.

We could have a section for transaction-related parameters, and move
the vacuum ones into the section for autovacuum so as they get
grouped, renaming the section "autovacuum and vacuum".  An idea of
group for search_path, temp_tablespace, default_tablespace & co would
be "object parameters", or "relation parameters" for all the
parameters which interfere with object definitions?
--
Michael


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Re: default_table_access_method is not in sample config file

2019-08-16 Thread Andres Freund
On 2019-08-13 15:03:13 +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:34:05AM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> > On 11/04/2019 19:49, Andres Freund wrote:
> >> Hm, I think we should rather add it to sample. That's an oversight, not
> >> intentional.
> > 
> > I just noticed that this is still an issue. default_table_access_method is
> > not in the sample config file, and it's not marked with GUC_NOT_IN_SAMPLE.
> > I'll add this to the open items list so we don't forget.

Thanks!


> I think that we should give it the same visibility as default_tablespace,
> so adding it to the sample file sounds good to me.

> diff --git a/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample 
> b/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
> index 65a6da18b3..39fc787851 100644
> --- a/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
> +++ b/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
> @@ -622,6 +622,7 @@
>  #default_tablespace = '' # a tablespace name, '' uses the default
>  #temp_tablespaces = ''   # a list of tablespace names, 
> '' uses
>   # only default tablespace
> +#default_table_access_method = 'heap'

Pushed, thanks.


>  #check_function_bodies = on
>  #default_transaction_isolation = 'read committed'
>  #default_transaction_read_only = off

Hm.  I find the current ordering there a bit weird. Unrelated to your
proposed change.  The header of the group is

#--
# CLIENT CONNECTION DEFAULTS
#--

# - Statement Behavior -

but I don't quite see GUCs like default_tablespace, search_path (due to
determining a created table's schema), temp_tablespace,
default_table_access_method fit reasonably well under that heading. They
all can affect persistent state. That seems pretty different from a
number of other settings (client_min_messages,
default_transaction_isolation, lock_timeout, ...) which only have
transient effects.

Should we perhaps split that group? Not that I have a good proposal for
better names.

Greetings,

Andres Freund




Re: default_table_access_method is not in sample config file

2019-08-13 Thread Michael Paquier
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:34:05AM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 11/04/2019 19:49, Andres Freund wrote:
>> Hm, I think we should rather add it to sample. That's an oversight, not
>> intentional.
> 
> I just noticed that this is still an issue. default_table_access_method is
> not in the sample config file, and it's not marked with GUC_NOT_IN_SAMPLE.
> I'll add this to the open items list so we don't forget.

I think that we should give it the same visibility as default_tablespace,
so adding it to the sample file sounds good to me.
--
Michael
diff --git a/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample b/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
index 65a6da18b3..39fc787851 100644
--- a/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
+++ b/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
@@ -622,6 +622,7 @@
 #default_tablespace = ''		# a tablespace name, '' uses the default
 #temp_tablespaces = ''			# a list of tablespace names, '' uses
 	# only default tablespace
+#default_table_access_method = 'heap'
 #check_function_bodies = on
 #default_transaction_isolation = 'read committed'
 #default_transaction_read_only = off


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