Re: [HACKERS] Proposal to Re-Order Postgresql.Conf, part II

2003-06-08 Thread Rod Taylor
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 14:16, Josh Berkus wrote: > Rod, > > > > 4) Does anyone else have any comments on the proposed re-ordering? > > > > Since we're painting a shed, does it make sense to put the items in > > alphabetical order for each section? > > I thought about that, yes. However, I find

[HACKERS] cvs ETA?

2003-06-08 Thread Dave Cramer
Is there any ETA for cvs? Dave -- Dave Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> fastcrypt ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] default locale considered harmful? (was Re: [GENERAL]

2003-06-08 Thread Alvaro Herrera Munoz
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:44:21AM -0600, scott.marlowe wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Nigel J. Andrews wrote: > Everything Nigel just wrote plus one thing. > > If it comes down to it, we could always require a --locale setting and > refuse to initdb without it. That way, whether it's in an RPM o

Re: [HACKERS] UPDATE ... SET = DEFAULT

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It would seem a new primnode (change InsertDef into SetDefault or > similar) will be required with some executor logic. It is not the executor's business to know about defaults. The rewriter is the place where defaults get inserted - see rewriteTargetList(

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal to Re-Order Postgresql.Conf, part II

2003-06-08 Thread Josh Berkus
Rod, > > 4) Does anyone else have any comments on the proposed re-ordering? > > Since we're painting a shed, does it make sense to put the items in > alphabetical order for each section? I thought about that, yes. However, I find that most items have a logical order that is not alphabetical.

Re: [HACKERS] UPDATE ... SET = DEFAULT

2003-06-08 Thread Rod Taylor
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 16:45, Tom Lane wrote: > Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It would seem a new primnode (change InsertDef into SetDefault or > > similar) will be required with some executor logic. > > It is not the executor's business to know about defaults. The rewriter > is the p

Re: [HACKERS] default locale considered harmful? (was Re: [GENERAL]

2003-06-08 Thread scott.marlowe
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > scott.marlowe writes: > > > If it comes down to it, we could always require a --locale setting and > > refuse to initdb without it. That way, whether it's in an RPM or from > > source, somebody somewhere along the line has to choose something. > > B

Re: [HACKERS] Result of a query(Need Help)

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Srikanth M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could anyone tell me where excatly the result of a query is stored > after the query is passed to pg_exec_query_string function and before it > is printed. It isn't "stored" anywhere --- tuples are passed to the frontend as they are generated.

Re: [HACKERS] default locale considered harmful? (was Re: [GENERAL]

2003-06-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
scott.marlowe writes: > If it comes down to it, we could always require a --locale setting and > refuse to initdb without it. That way, whether it's in an RPM or from > source, somebody somewhere along the line has to choose something. By default, you choose when you install or configure your op

[HACKERS] This is not gonna do

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
The recent change to make log_min_messages SUSET provokes the following behavior: $ export PGOPTIONS="-d 5" $ psql psql: FATAL: 'log_min_messages': permission denied $ Considering that I *am* superuser, this is quite unacceptable. If you don't want to revert the change, propose another solution.

Re: [HACKERS] default locale considered harmful? (was Re: [GENERAL]

2003-06-08 Thread Peter Eisentraut
scott.marlowe writes: > If indexes on text worked right in other locales it would be no big deal. They will in version 7.4, so all these concerns about trading off locale use vs. performance will become obsolete. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broad

Re: [HACKERS] Problems with renaming a column

2003-06-08 Thread Robert Treat
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 11:11, Rod Taylor wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 22:28, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > > Which ones are missing, and should we really be looking at creating > a > > > pg_definition_schema instead? > > > > Missing: > > > > Database, schema, table, domain, cast, conversion

Re: [HACKERS] large objects

2003-06-08 Thread Nigel J. Andrews
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: > "Nigel J. Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Now, I did a little bit of testing and when doing a \lo_export > > in psql connected via localhost a SIGPIPE is generated in > > write() in libc and psql quit, without printing any message to the > > termina

Re: [HACKERS] large objects

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
"Nigel J. Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now, I did a little bit of testing and when doing a \lo_export > in psql connected via localhost a SIGPIPE is generated in > write() in libc and psql quit, without printing any message to the > terminal. Perhaps interestingly > the file that gets

[HACKERS] Debugging tool for viewing parse trees?

2003-06-08 Thread Eric D Nielsen
I've gotten back to working on the SQL99 version of updateable views and I'ld like to confirm my current understanding of the parse tree data structure. Is there a debugging-type tool for outputting the parse tree for a given query? Eric Nielsen ---(end of broadcast)-

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3.3 COMPILE FAILURE: pg_dump (fwd)

2003-06-08 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Saturday, June 07, 2003 10:42:31 -0500 Larry Rosenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: cc -O -g -I../../../src/interfaces/libpq -I../../../src/include -I/usr/local/include -DBINDIR=\"/usr/local/pgsql/bin\" -c -o pg_dump.o pg_dump.c UX:cc: WARNING: debugging and optimization mutually exclusive; -O d

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal to Re-Order Postgresql.Conf, part II

2003-06-08 Thread Robert Treat
I kind of prefer the way things were grouped together in 7.2 vs. 7.3. If I needed to check out connection information or look at query tuning flags, they were all right next to each other and I didn't have to scroll back and forth through the list. Luckily most of the topical variables share so

[HACKERS] 7.3.3 COMPILE FAILURE: pg_dump

2003-06-08 Thread Larry Rosenman
cc -O -g -I../../../src/interfaces/libpq -I../../../src/include -I/usr/local/include -DBINDIR=\"/usr/local/pgsql/bin\" -c -o pg_dump.o pg_dump.c UX:cc: WARNING: debugging and optimization mutually exclusive; -O disabled UX:acomp: ERROR: "pg_dump.c", line 192: incomplete struct/union/enum option: l

Re: [HACKERS] large objects

2003-06-08 Thread Nigel J. Andrews
Repost just to add the information that this is [now] on 7.3.3, previously on 7.3.2. Sorry for the noise of the incomplete previous message, although the email lists seem to be very light this last week. Obviously the mail server is still feeling under the weather, I presume many posts have been

Re: [HACKERS] Debugging tool for viewing parse trees?

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Eric D Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've gotten back to working on the SQL99 version of updateable views and > I'ld like to confirm my current understanding of the parse tree data > structure. Is there a debugging-type tool for outputting the parse tree for > a given query? See debug_pri

Re: [HACKERS] large objects

2003-06-08 Thread Nigel J. Andrews
Note, primary list address changed to -general, I'd suggest any followups remove the -hackers, which I've left in just for 'closure'. On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Nigel J. Andrews wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Tom Lane wrote: > > > "Nigel J. Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Now, I did a little

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal to Re-Order Postgresql.Conf, part II

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "wal_debug" is seldom used outside of Postgresql source development or unusual > system failures, and should therefore go last. BTW, it occurs to me that wal_debug is one of the hacker-only variables that probably ought not be documented at all. I cannot

Re: [HACKERS] cvs ETA?

2003-06-08 Thread The Hermit Hacker
?? cvs itself has been working for ages now ... anoncvs isn't ... or is that what you are using? On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Dave Cramer wrote: > Is there any ETA for cvs? > > Dave > -- > Dave Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > fastcrypt > > > ---(end of broadcast)

[HACKERS] FROM ONLY limitation in RICs

2003-06-08 Thread James Pye
Does the SQL(99?) spec specify that referential integrity checks should have the FROM ONLY limitation? I ask because(afiak; I've googled and such, only found 92 which apparently does not specify anything about inheritance.) I have no access to the specs without spending money th

[HACKERS] security flaw

2003-06-08 Thread ohp
Hi all, I wonder if it's a security problem: One of my customer noticed that he could see all databases on the system with phppgadmin. not only he sees databases but tables, views, fonctions... Fortunatly he can't see any row. This customer has the ability to create databases but not users. I won

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal to Re-Order Postgresql.Conf, part II

2003-06-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
I think people thought if you were doing SHOW ALL, you were looking for a specific variable, so alphabetical was best. --- Robert Treat wrote: > On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 11:23, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > > 4) Does anyone else ha

Re: [HACKERS] Groups and roles

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... Therefore I ask whether everyone agrees > that groups and roles are basically equivalent concepts (and perhaps that > we might in the future strive to make groups more compatible with the > roles as defined in the SQL standard). Or does anyone see

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal to Re-Order Postgresql.Conf, part II

2003-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think this was touched on before, but was there a final determination > of the ordering of the "show all" command? SHOW ALL will remain alphabetical. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--