Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml Tag: REL7_4_STABLE r ...

2004-01-04 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane wrote:
 (It might be good if we had a more standardized way of generating
 HISTORY though.  I tried a couple different versions of lynx and
 got a couple different outputs, none perfectly matching whatever
 version Bruce is using ...)

There lies the problem.  Making these text files is still guesswork 
and/or manual polishing, because the tools always change and no one 
tool works well on at least HISTORY and INSTALL at the same time.  The 
HISTORY generatation has a makefile rule that appears to work well for 
Bruce, but I actually wrote it to work on my machine, but now I get the 
same problem that you state.  For INSTALL, lynx gives terrible results, 
and for the past few releases I've been using a tool named html2txt, 
but that still requires manual cleanup.  In short, automatic generation 
of text files that works every time is still an open problem.


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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml Tag: REL7_4_STABLE r ...

2003-12-22 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Are we going to regenerate the 7.4.1 tar ball?
--
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 Peter Eisentraut - PostgreSQL wrote:
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  Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/12/21 17:36:34
  
  Modified files:
  doc/src/sgml   : Tag: REL7_4_STABLE release.sgml 
  
  Log message:
  Some refining of release notes.  Markup is still broken by someone else,
  so I cannot remake HISTORY.
 
 I have regenerated HISTORY in 7.4.x and HEAD.
 
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml Tag: REL7_4_STABLE r ...

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
Tatsuo Ishii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Are we going to regenerate the 7.4.1 tar ball?

No.  There is no difference other than some trailing spaces between
what Bruce committed and what I put in yesterday.

(It might be good if we had a more standardized way of generating
HISTORY though.  I tried a couple different versions of lynx and
got a couple different outputs, none perfectly matching whatever
version Bruce is using ...)

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml Tag: REL7_4_STABLE r ...

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Tom Lane wrote:
 (It might be good if we had a more standardized way of generating
 HISTORY though.  I tried a couple different versions of lynx and
 got a couple different outputs, none perfectly matching whatever
 version Bruce is using ...)

 Is this something that could be added to the 'make dist' target, so that
 it happens as part of the bundle build?

Not a bad idea.  AFAICS we have the generation of HISTORY down to a
script now; there's no reason for it to be in CVS at all.  It'd be nice
to do the same for INSTALL, but I'm not sure if that takes any manual
twiddling or not.  (Peter?)

The version of lynx that's on cvs.postgresql.org seems to produce okay
output (it's what I ended up using yesterday), so standardizing on that
wouldn't be a problem.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml Tag: REL7_4_STABLE r ...

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
 On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 The only problem with removing HISTORY from CVS is that we will not have
 an easily reable list of release changes _until_ we package the release.

Nonsense.  Point 'em to
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/release.html

 Perhaps we should keep HISTORY in CVS, but regenerate it on tarball
 packaging, and INSTALL too.

It's really bogus to have two versions of the same information in CVS.
If we simply agreed that the SGML versions are the masters, we could
keep those up-to-date, and generate the plain-text versions whenever a
tarball is rolled.

Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Confused here, but how up to date is HISTORY in CVS to start with?

One reason it's not is the confusion over which version is the master.
Last cycle, Peter encouraged people to add quick-and-dirty release notes
into release.sgml when important changes are made, and I thought that
worked pretty well.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml Tag: REL7_4_STABLE r ...

2003-12-22 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Tom Lane wrote:
 Last cycle, Peter encouraged people to add quick-and-dirty release notes
 into release.sgml when important changes are made, and I thought that
 worked pretty well.

 Would you be more specific?  How did it work well?

There was a place for people to look to see what interesting stuff was
in CVS tip.  We had about thirty entries at the end of the 7.4 devel
cycle:
http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql-server/doc/src/sgml/release.sgml?rev=1.208content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

Now, I dunno how many people actually made use of it, but if it were
publicized and maintained more faithfully, I think people would use it.

regards, tom lane

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