Re: [HACKERS] Help text for pg_basebackup -R

2017-02-18 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Tom Lane  wrote:

> Stephen Frost  writes:
> > * Alvaro Herrera (alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com) wrote:
> >> Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >>> I'm guessing if we backpatch something like that, it would cause
> issues for
> >>> translations, right? So we should make it head only?
>
> >> We've had the argument a number of times.  My stand is that many
> >> translators are active in the older branches, so this update would be
> >> caught there too; and even if not, an updated English message is better
> >> than an outdated native-language message.
>
> > That makes sense to me, at least, so +1, for my part.
>
> Yeah, if the existing message text is actually wrong or misleading,
> we should back-patch.  I'm not sure I would do that if it's just a
> cosmetic improvement.  In this particular case, +1.
>

OK. Applied and backpatched.

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Re: [HACKERS] Help text for pg_basebackup -R

2017-02-17 Thread Tom Lane
Stephen Frost  writes:
> * Alvaro Herrera (alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com) wrote:
>> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> I'm guessing if we backpatch something like that, it would cause issues for
>>> translations, right? So we should make it head only?

>> We've had the argument a number of times.  My stand is that many
>> translators are active in the older branches, so this update would be
>> caught there too; and even if not, an updated English message is better
>> than an outdated native-language message.

> That makes sense to me, at least, so +1, for my part.

Yeah, if the existing message text is actually wrong or misleading,
we should back-patch.  I'm not sure I would do that if it's just a
cosmetic improvement.  In this particular case, +1.

regards, tom lane


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Re: [HACKERS] Help text for pg_basebackup -R

2017-02-17 Thread Stephen Frost
* Alvaro Herrera (alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com) wrote:
> Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 15, 2017, Alvaro Herrera 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > >
> > > >   printf(_("  -R, --write-recovery-conf\n"
> > > > -  " write recovery.conf
> > > after backup\n"));
> > > > +  " write recovery.conf for
> > > replication\n"));
> > > >   printf(_("  -S, --slot=SLOTNAMEreplication slot to use\n"));
> > >
> > > LGTM.
> > >
> > I'm guessing if we backpatch something like that, it would cause issues for
> > translations, right? So we should make it head only?
> 
> We've had the argument a number of times.  My stand is that many
> translators are active in the older branches, so this update would be
> caught there too; and even if not, an updated English message is better
> than an outdated native-language message.

That makes sense to me, at least, so +1, for my part.  Of course, I'm
not a translation-using user, but I have heard from people when I've
spoken in other countries that a correct english message is better than
outdated native-language messages, and further, that having the English
message makes it easier to get Google results.

Thanks!

Stephen


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Re: [HACKERS] Help text for pg_basebackup -R

2017-02-17 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 15, 2017, Alvaro Herrera 
> wrote:
> 
> > Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >
> > >   printf(_("  -R, --write-recovery-conf\n"
> > > -  " write recovery.conf
> > after backup\n"));
> > > +  " write recovery.conf for
> > replication\n"));
> > >   printf(_("  -S, --slot=SLOTNAMEreplication slot to use\n"));
> >
> > LGTM.
> >
> I'm guessing if we backpatch something like that, it would cause issues for
> translations, right? So we should make it head only?

We've had the argument a number of times.  My stand is that many
translators are active in the older branches, so this update would be
caught there too; and even if not, an updated English message is better
than an outdated native-language message.

Now, that's been argued in the context of a bug fix that introduces new
messages or changed an existing message for other reasons.  I'm not sure
how strongly do we think it applies for a change that's *only* about
updating a message.  I'm +0.5 on back-patching the change in this case.

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Re: [HACKERS] Help text for pg_basebackup -R

2017-02-17 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wednesday, February 15, 2017, Alvaro Herrera 
wrote:

> Magnus Hagander wrote:
>
> >   printf(_("  -R, --write-recovery-conf\n"
> > -  " write recovery.conf
> after backup\n"));
> > +  " write recovery.conf for
> replication\n"));
> >   printf(_("  -S, --slot=SLOTNAMEreplication slot to use\n"));
>
> LGTM.
>
>
I'm guessing if we backpatch something like that, it would cause issues for
translations, right? So we should make it head only?




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Re: [HACKERS] Help text for pg_basebackup -R

2017-02-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Magnus Hagander wrote:

>   printf(_("  -R, --write-recovery-conf\n"
> -  " write recovery.conf after 
> backup\n"));
> +  " write recovery.conf for 
> replication\n"));
>   printf(_("  -S, --slot=SLOTNAMEreplication slot to use\n"));

LGTM.

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