Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-10 Thread Greg Stark
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com wrote: Thanks for clearing the list.  There are only 5 remaining items, which is kinda exciting, though Tom's assertion that HS is still bug-ridden is a bit off-putting. It's a big piece of subtle code and it's quite

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-09 Thread Simon Riggs
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:46 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Let's get 9.0 out the door, hey? What we actually need is some testing effort. The lack of bug reports against Hot Standby, in particular, is proof positive that no meaningful testing is happening.

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-09 Thread Greg Stark
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: ... Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ... A lack of bugs usually indicates there are no bugs in the areas being tested. Would the real Simon Riggs please speak up? Isn't that precisely what absence of

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-09 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 11:34 +0100, Greg Stark wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: ... Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ... A lack of bugs usually indicates there are no bugs in the areas being tested. Would the real Simon Riggs

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-09 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of mar jun 08 17:01:28 -0400 2010: I think only one of them has an actual patch associated with it, viz: ALTER TABLE .. DISABLE/ENABLE TRIGGER are out of date I took a look at that patch, and I expect it's probably correct, but I haven't actually

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Let's get 9.0 out the door, hey? What we actually need is some testing effort. The lack of bug reports against Hot Standby, in particular, is proof positive that no meaningful testing is happening. (If you think it means HS is bug-free, I have a nice

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: However, I haven't see much progress in the last 10 days on closing any of these issues, and quite a few people have moved on to 9.1 features. I appreciate the effort that went into making this list, but it's not very useful

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread Josh Berkus
On 6/8/10 2:01 PM, Robert Haas wrote: I appreciate the effort that went into making this list, but it's not very useful to work off of any more. The problem is that the set of things that is listed here is pretty erratic - there are actual problems that are not on this list, and there are

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 03:46:06PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com writes: Let's get 9.0 out the door, hey? What we actually need is some testing effort. The lack of bug reports against Hot Standby, in particular, is proof positive that no meaningful testing is

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: On 6/8/10 2:01 PM, Robert Haas wrote: I appreciate the effort that went into making this list, but it's not very useful to work off of any more.  The problem is that the set of things that is listed here is pretty erratic -

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread Josh Berkus
Whoa, there. There is not any way of moving forward with this list without explaining why the list in its present form is not too useful. Ah, the way I read your post was the list is not useful therefore I will ignore it. From that perspective it was important for me to respond to you lest

Re: [HACKERS] How about closing some Open Items?

2010-06-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote:  If I simply start overhauling the list without explaining what I perceive to be the systematic problems with it, then I will get yelled at for failing to follow community process. Nonsense.  The one good thing about admin