Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-30 Thread Daniel Duvall
Thanks for your reply Luke. Bizgres looks like a very promissing project. I'll be sure to follow it. Thanks to everyone for their comments. I'm starting to understand the truth behind the hype and where these performance gains and hits stem from. -Dan ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-30 Thread Daniel Duvall
What about clustered filesystems? At first blush I would think the overhead of something like GFS might kill performance. Could one potentially achieve a fail-over config using multiple nodes with GFS, each having there own instance of PostgreSQL (but only one running at any given moment)?

Fwd: Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-30 Thread Trent Shipley
What is the relationship between database support for clustering and grid computing and support for distributed databases? Two-phase COMMIT is comming in 8.1. What effect will this have in promoting FOSS grid support or distribution solutions for Postgresql? ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-30 Thread Luke Lonergan
Dan, On 9/29/05 3:23 PM, Daniel Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about clustered filesystems? At first blush I would think the overhead of something like GFS might kill performance. Could one potentially achieve a fail-over config using multiple nodes with GFS, each having there own

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-30 Thread Hans-Jürgen Schönig
Luke Lonergan wrote: Dan, On 9/29/05 3:23 PM, Daniel Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about clustered filesystems? At first blush I would think the overhead of something like GFS might kill performance. Could one potentially achieve a fail-over config using multiple nodes with GFS,

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-29 Thread Daniel Duvall
While clustering in some circles may be an open-ended buzzword -- mainly the commercial DB marketing crowd -- there are concepts beneath the bull that are even inherent in the name. However, I understand your point. From what I've researched, the concepts and practices seem to fall under one of

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-29 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Daniel Duvall schrieb: While clustering in some circles may be an open-ended buzzword -- mainly the commercial DB marketing crowd -- there are concepts beneath the bull that are even inherent in the name. However, I understand your point. From what I've researched, the concepts and practices

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-29 Thread Jonah H. Harris
On 9/29/05, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I dont know why many people believe parallel executionautomatically means high performance. Actually most of the timethe performance is much worser this way.If your dataset remains statically and you do only read-only requets, you get

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-29 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Daniel Duvall wrote: While clustering in some circles may be an open-ended buzzword -- mainly the commercial DB marketing crowd -- there are concepts beneath the bull that are even inherent in the name. However, I understand your point. From what I've researched, the concepts and practices

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-29 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Jonah H. Harris schrieb: On 9/29/05, *Tino Wildenhain* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I dont know why many people believe parallel execution automatically means high performance. Actually most of the time the performance is much worser this way. If your

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-29 Thread Luke Lonergan
Daniel, From what I've researched, the concepts and practices seem to fall under one of two abstract categorizations: fail-over (ok... high-availability), and parallel execution (high-performance... sure). While some consider the implementation of only one of these to qualify a cluster,

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-28 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Daniel Duvall wrote: I've looked at PostgreSQL and EnterpriseDB, but I can't find anything definitive as far as clustering capabilities. What kinds of projects are there for clustering PgSQL, and are any of them mature enough for commercial apps? As you well know clustering means all and

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-28 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Gaetano Mendola wrote: Daniel Duvall wrote: I've looked at PostgreSQL and EnterpriseDB, but I can't find anything definitive as far as clustering capabilities. What kinds of projects are there for clustering PgSQL, and are any of them mature enough for commercial apps? Are you

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-22 Thread Daniel Duvall
: +202 271 8794 (ext. 115) Fax : +202 2748335 Cell: +2010 5410035 http://www.citglobal.com -Original Message- From: David Fetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:12 PM To: Rafik Salama Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-21 Thread David Fetter
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 08:01:08PM +0300, Rafik Salama wrote: Dear Sirs I know that that postgresql can be configured for high availability over a clustered environment using pgcluster, Do you have a case study showing this? I am currently studying in my masters the clustering using MPI

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-21 Thread Aly Dharshi
I think its a great idea to give it a shot, maybe you can present a proposal to the list of how you wish to go about it. There could be some experts on the list who may give you some input and direction. Aly. David Fetter wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 08:01:08PM +0300, Rafik Salama wrote:

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-21 Thread Rafik Salama
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:12 PM To: Rafik Salama Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 08:01:08PM +0300, Rafik Salama wrote: Dear Sirs I know that that postgresql can be configured for high

Re: [HACKERS] postgresql clustering

2005-09-21 Thread Jonah H. Harris
In the past couple years I've worked on several personal/business projects to cluster PostgreSQL and InnoDB (without MySQL). I've tested shared-nothing, shared-memory, and shared-disk models. IMHO, shared-disk is the only viable option for performance and/or large production business environments.