Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Feature freeze progress report
I think this is the apprach joshua tried the first time and it backfired... I
think we need a more personal approach. I'm willing to put time into this if
people want a new point man (I don't think Joshua will mind, lmk if you do)
but it will have to wait untill after pgcon.
On Thursday 03 May 2007 15:12, Chris Ryan wrote:
I was just getting ready to suggest such an approach. We could
email all the project admins for the reamaining projects with the
dead-line. Backup the information and tell people who to contact in
order to claim whatever information they want. Once the dead-line is
past you can simply shutdown all the gborg services. Those who don't
claim their information either have already moved someplace else or
don't care about what is on gborg anymore.
Additionally if it were desired we could place tarballs of the
cvsrepositories and whatever download files where uploaded for each
project on some ftp server if anyone was interested in preserving that
ifnormation for posterity.
It would not be difficult for me to get a list of email addresses
and project names of those admins on gborg.
Chris Ryan
--- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Why not just send a notice out stated that Gborg will be shutdown as
of June
1st ... give a finite deadline to move things over to pgfoundry ...
just
because we 'shut down' the site on June 1st, it doesn't mean we are
going to
wipe it all out, we can just put a Redirect on the web server on
gborg over to
pgfoundry so that ppl can't go *to* gborg's web site ... we can also
make the
CVS 'read-only', so that developers can't update the CVS there, but
ppl can
still download the code ...
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Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Feature freeze progress report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why not just send a notice out stated that Gborg will be shutdown as of June 1st ... give a finite deadline to move things over to pgfoundry ... just because we 'shut down' the site on June 1st, it doesn't mean we are going to wipe it all out, we can just put a Redirect on the web server on gborg over to pgfoundry so that ppl can't go *to* gborg's web site ... we can also make the CVS 'read-only', so that developers can't update the CVS there, but ppl can still download the code ... - --On Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:47:48 -0700 Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: Bruce, Get rid of gborg and let's talk. Touche'. Actually, AFAICT, the only active thing left on GBorg is WWW. If we move that, we can shut it down. Any objections? This should be a different thread *but* to my knowledge there is more than WWW active on Gborg. Or at least there is some data that people still wished moved. Gborg needs to be shutdown in a scheduled manner. I proposed a schedule last year but it was largely overlooked: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php My rather bold attempt to reach all people associated with Gborg was not met with positive responses either (granted due to a mistake on my end). http://people.planetpostgresql.org/joshua/index.php?/archives/15-Blacklisting -PostgreSQL.Org,-Spam-and-hordes-of-geeks-Oh-My!.html Why am I having to spend hours in Syndey saying the same thing? Why don't you guys go ahead and change things, and when they fail, I will still be around. You're acting as a majority of one, here, Bruce. The reason why any solution anyone else tries *will* fail is because you will refuse to participate in it. That's why people are trying to persuade you instead of just going ahead and doing it; you have the power to effectively sandbag anything anyone else does, so that's why nobody wants to put effort into it if you're opposed. That pretty much sums it up. Bruce you can either come to the party with a smile or a grin. It is your party. If you come with a smile everyone will be a lot happier. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGOifh4QvfyHIvDvMRAvKSAJ9l87k9s8wp4nnw5W4xyCQJIgwNOQCeMLXt bOqtGrCOZ8WnbrhAdYKOGKY= =vJmp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Feature freeze progress report
I was just getting ready to suggest such an approach. We could email all the project admins for the reamaining projects with the dead-line. Backup the information and tell people who to contact in order to claim whatever information they want. Once the dead-line is past you can simply shutdown all the gborg services. Those who don't claim their information either have already moved someplace else or don't care about what is on gborg anymore. Additionally if it were desired we could place tarballs of the cvsrepositories and whatever download files where uploaded for each project on some ftp server if anyone was interested in preserving that ifnormation for posterity. It would not be difficult for me to get a list of email addresses and project names of those admins on gborg. Chris Ryan --- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why not just send a notice out stated that Gborg will be shutdown as of June 1st ... give a finite deadline to move things over to pgfoundry ... just because we 'shut down' the site on June 1st, it doesn't mean we are going to wipe it all out, we can just put a Redirect on the web server on gborg over to pgfoundry so that ppl can't go *to* gborg's web site ... we can also make the CVS 'read-only', so that developers can't update the CVS there, but ppl can still download the code ... - --On Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:47:48 -0700 Joshua D. Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: Bruce, Get rid of gborg and let's talk. Touche'. Actually, AFAICT, the only active thing left on GBorg is WWW. If we move that, we can shut it down. Any objections? This should be a different thread *but* to my knowledge there is more than WWW active on Gborg. Or at least there is some data that people still wished moved. Gborg needs to be shutdown in a scheduled manner. I proposed a schedule last year but it was largely overlooked: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-08/msg01167.php My rather bold attempt to reach all people associated with Gborg was not met with positive responses either (granted due to a mistake on my end). http://people.planetpostgresql.org/joshua/index.php?/archives/15-Blacklisting -PostgreSQL.Org,-Spam-and-hordes-of-geeks-Oh-My!.html Why am I having to spend hours in Syndey saying the same thing? Why don't you guys go ahead and change things, and when they fail, I will still be around. You're acting as a majority of one, here, Bruce. The reason why any solution anyone else tries *will* fail is because you will refuse to participate in it. That's why people are trying to persuade you instead of just going ahead and doing it; you have the power to effectively sandbag anything anyone else does, so that's why nobody wants to put effort into it if you're opposed. That pretty much sums it up. Bruce you can either come to the party with a smile or a grin. It is your party. If you come with a smile everyone will be a lot happier. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGOifh4QvfyHIvDvMRAvKSAJ9l87k9s8wp4nnw5W4xyCQJIgwNOQCeMLXt bOqtGrCOZ8WnbrhAdYKOGKY= =vJmp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
