Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/24/06, Bucky Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's benchmarks of RAID5x4 vs RAID10x4 on a Dell Perc5/I with 300 GB 10k RPM SAS drives. I know these are bonnie 1.9 instead of the older version, but maybe it might still make for useful analysis of RAID5 vs. RAID10. -- RAID5x4 i dont

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/24/06, Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 13:57, Merlin Moncure wrote: > On 8/24/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 09:21 -0400, Merlin Moncure wrote: > > > On 8/22/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2006-08-

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 15:03, Merlin Moncure wrote: > On 8/24/06, Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 13:57, Merlin Moncure wrote: > > > On 8/24/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 09:21 -0400, Merlin Moncure wrote: > > > > > On 8/22

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Bucky Jordan
cky -Original Message- From: Scott Marlowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:38 PM To: Merlin Moncure Cc: Jeff Davis; Bucky Jordan; pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 13:57, Merlin Moncure wro

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 13:57, Merlin Moncure wrote: > On 8/24/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 09:21 -0400, Merlin Moncure wrote: > > > On 8/22/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0400, Bucky Jordan wrote: > > > it's not t

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Lewis
> it's worse than that. if you need to read something that is not in > the o/s cache, all the disks except for one need to be sent to a > physical location in order to get the data. Thats the basic rule with > striping: it optimizes for sequential i/o in expense of random i/o. > There are some op

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Claus Guttesen
I am looking at setting up two general-purpose database servers, replicated with Slony. Each server I'm looking at has the following specs: Dell PowerEdge 2950 - 2 x Dual Core Intel(r) Xeon(r) 5130, 4MB Cache, 2.00GHz, 1333MHZ FSB - 4GB RAM - PERC 5/i, x6 Backplane, Integrated Controller Card (25

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/24/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 09:21 -0400, Merlin Moncure wrote: > On 8/22/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0400, Bucky Jordan wrote: > it's not the parity, it's the seeking. Raid 5 gives you great > sequential i

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Jeff Davis
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 09:21 -0400, Merlin Moncure wrote: > On 8/22/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0400, Bucky Jordan wrote: > > Very interesting. I always hear that people avoid RAID 5 on database > > servers, but I suppose it always depends. Is the parit

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-24 Thread Merlin Moncure
On 8/22/06, Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0400, Bucky Jordan wrote: Very interesting. I always hear that people avoid RAID 5 on database servers, but I suppose it always depends. Is the parity calculation something that may increase commit latency vs. a RAID 1

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-22 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 17:56 -0400, Bucky Jordan wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > My experience with the 2950 seemed to indicate that RAID10x6 disks did > not perform as well as RAID5x6. I believe I posted some numbers to > illustrate this in the post you mentioned. > Very interesting. I always hear that p

Re: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-22 Thread Bucky Jordan
Bucky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Davis Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:34 PM To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org Subject: [PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions This question is related to the thread: http://archives.postgres

[PERFORM] PowerEdge 2950 questions

2006-08-22 Thread Jeff Davis
This question is related to the thread: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2006-08/msg00152.php but I had some questions. I am looking at setting up two general-purpose database servers, replicated with Slony. Each server I'm looking at has the following specs: Dell PowerEdge 2950 -