[PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback

2012-04-01 Thread Ofer Israeli
Hi all,

We are running performance tests using PG 8.3 on a Windows 2008 R2 machine 
connecting locally over TCP.
In our tests, we have found that it takes ~3ms to update a table with ~25 
columns and 60K records, with one column indexed.
We have reached this number after many tweaks of the database configuraiton and 
one of the changes we made was to perform the updates in batches of 5K as 
opposed to the pervious transaction per event.  Note that our use of batches is 
to have only one transaction, but still each of the 5K events is independently 
SELECTing and UPDATEing records, i.e. it is not all contained in a stored 
procedure or such.

Still these times are too high for us and we are looking to lower them and I am 
wondering about the TCP/IP overhead of passing the information back and forth.  
Does anyone have any numbers in what the TCP could cost in the configuration 
mentioned above or pointers on how to test it?


Many thanks,
Ofer


Re: [PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback

2012-04-01 Thread Andy
You could try using Unix domain socket and see if the performance improves. A 
relevant link:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/257433/postgresql-unix-domain-sockets-vs-tcp-sockets




 From: Ofer Israeli of...@checkpoint.com
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org pgsql-performance@postgresql.org 
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 4:24 PM
Subject: [PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback
 

Hi 
all,
 
We are running 
performance tests using PG 8.3 on a Windows 2008 R2 machine connecting locally 
over TCP.
In our tests, we 
have found that it takes ~3ms to update a table with ~25 columns and 60K 
records, with one column indexed.
We have reached this 
number after many tweaks of the database configuraiton and one of the changes 
we 
made was to perform the updates in batches of 5K as opposed to the pervious 
transaction per event.  Note that our use of batches is to have only one 
transaction, but still each of the 5K events is independently SELECTing and 
UPDATEing records, i.e. it is not all contained in a stored procedure or 
such.
 
Still these times 
are too high for us and we are looking to lower them and I am wondering about 
the TCP/IP overhead of passing the information back and forth.  Does anyone 
have any numbers in what the TCP could cost in the configuration mentioned 
above 
or pointers on how to test it?
 
 
Many 
thanks,
Ofer

Re: [PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback

2012-04-01 Thread Rob Wultsch
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Ofer Israeli of...@checkpoint.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 We are running performance tests using PG 8.3 on a Windows 2008 R2 machine
 connecting locally over TCP.

8.3 will be not supported in under a year. Time to start testing upgrades.

http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning/

-- 
Rob Wultsch
wult...@gmail.com

-- 
Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org)
To make changes to your subscription:
http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance


Re: [PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback

2012-04-01 Thread Andrew Dunstan



On 04/01/2012 06:01 PM, Andy wrote:
You could try using Unix domain socket and see if the performance 
improves. A relevant link:


He said Windows. There are no Unix domain sockets on Windows. (And 
please don't top-post)


cheers

andrew



--
Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org)
To make changes to your subscription:
http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance


Re: [PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback

2012-04-01 Thread Claudio Freire
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
 You could try using Unix domain socket and see if the performance
 improves. A relevant link:


 He said Windows. There are no Unix domain sockets on Windows. (And please
 don't top-post)

Windows supports named pipes, which are functionally similar, but I
don't think pg supports them.

-- 
Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org)
To make changes to your subscription:
http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance


Re: [PERFORM] TCP Overhead on Local Loopback

2012-04-01 Thread Andrew Dunstan



On 04/01/2012 08:29 PM, Claudio Freire wrote:

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Dunstanand...@dunslane.net  wrote:

You could try using Unix domain socket and see if the performance
improves. A relevant link:


He said Windows. There are no Unix domain sockets on Windows. (And please
don't top-post)

Windows supports named pipes, which are functionally similar, but I
don't think pg supports them.



Correct, so telling the OP to have a look at them isn't at all helpful. 
And they are not supported on all Windows platforms we support either 
(specifically not on XP, AIUI).


cheers

andrew

--
Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@postgresql.org)
To make changes to your subscription:
http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance