Re: [PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
For example, IIRC when joining an integer column with a SERIAL column,
you must expicitly cast it as an integer or the planner will not use
the indexes, right? (This is a guess, as I remember reading something
like this and thinking, "How in the world is someone supposed to
figure that out, even with EXPLAIN?")
That's not true at all.  Perhaps you're thinking about BIGSERIAL and 
int8 indexes - something that's been addressed in 8.0.

Chris
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Re: [PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

2005-01-27 Thread Mitch Pirtle
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:02:29 -0800, Dustin Sallings  wrote:
> 
> On Jan 26, 2005, at 10:27, Van Ingen, Lane wrote:
> 
> > Clarification: I am talking about SQL coding practices in Postgres
> > (how to write queries for best
> > results), not  tuning-related considerations (although that would be
> > welcomed too).
> 
> Your question is a bit too vague.  At this point in your development,
> all that really can be said is to understand relational database
> concepts in general, and use explain a lot when developing queries.
> (Oh, and don't forget to analyze before asking specific questions).

I disagree - there are plenty of tricks that are PostgreSQL only, and
many people on this list have that knowledge but it is not documented
anywhere, or is hidden within thousands of mailing list posts.

For example, IIRC when joining an integer column with a SERIAL column,
you must expicitly cast it as an integer or the planner will not use
the indexes, right? (This is a guess, as I remember reading something
like this and thinking, "How in the world is someone supposed to
figure that out, even with EXPLAIN?")

There is another thread about how a query using a WHERE NOT NULL
clause is faster than one without.

These things are PostgreSQL specific, and documenting them would go a
long way towards educating the switchover crowd.

The closest thing I have seen to this is the PostgreSQL Gotchas page:

http://sql-info.de/postgresql/postgres-gotchas.html

HTH,

-- Mitch

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Re: [PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

2005-01-27 Thread Dustin Sallings
On Jan 26, 2005, at 10:27, Van Ingen, Lane wrote:
Clarification: I am talking about SQL coding practices in Postgres 
(how to write queries for best
results), not  tuning-related considerations (although that would be 
welcomed too).
	Your question is a bit too vague.  At this point in your development, 
all that really can be said is to understand relational database 
concepts in general, and use explain a lot when developing queries.  
(Oh, and don't forget to analyze before asking specific questions).

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Subject: [PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

Does anybody know where I can lay my hands on some guidelines to get 
best SQL performance
out of PostgreSQL? We are about to get into a project that will be new 
from the ground up (and\we are using Postgres for the first time). 
Would like to share some guidelines with developers on best practices
in Postgres? Thanks for your help.

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Re: [PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

2005-01-26 Thread Van Ingen, Lane
Clarification: I am talking about SQL coding practices in Postgres (how to 
write queries for best 
results), not  tuning-related considerations (although that would be welcomed 
too).
 
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Sent: Wed 1/26/2005 11:44 AM 
To: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org 
Cc: 
Subject: [PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

Does anybody know where I can lay my hands on some guidelines to get best SQL 
performance
out of PostgreSQL? We are about to get into a project that will be new from the 
ground up (and\we are using Postgres for the first time). Would like to share 
some guidelines with developers on best practices
in Postgres? Thanks for your help.

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[PERFORM] SQL Performance Guidelines

2005-01-26 Thread Van Ingen, Lane
Does anybody know where I can lay my hands on some guidelines to get best SQL 
performance
out of PostgreSQL? We are about to get into a project that will be new from the 
ground up (and\we are using Postgres for the first time). Would like to share 
some guidelines with developers on best practices
in Postgres? Thanks for your help.

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