Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2005-01-03 Thread Grega Bremec
...and on Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 03:44:44PM -0500, Mitch Pirtle used the keyboard: > > You are right, I now remember that setup was originally called "RAID > 10 plus 1", and I believe is was an incorrect statement from an > overzealous salesman ;-) > Just an afterthought - that could well be the unf

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2005-01-03 Thread Mitch Pirtle
You are right, I now remember that setup was originally called "RAID 10 plus 1", and I believe is was an incorrect statement from an overzealous salesman ;-) Thanks for the clarification! - Mitch On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:19:04 -0500, Madison Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Madison Kelly wrote:

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2005-01-03 Thread Greg Stark
Madison Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Without it, specially in a failure state, the performance can collapse as > the CPU performs all that extra math. It's really not the math that makes raid 5 hurt. It's that in order to calculate the checksum block the raid controller needs to read in t

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2005-01-03 Thread Madison Kelly
Madison Kelly wrote: Nope, Raid 10 (one zero) is a mirror is stripes, no parity. with r10 Woops, that should be "mirror of stripes". By the way, what you are thinking of is possible, it would be 51 (five one; a raid 5 built on mirrors) or 15 (a mirror of raid 5 arrays). Always be careful, 10 a

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2005-01-03 Thread Madison Kelly
Mitch Pirtle wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:23:13 -0800, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RAID 10 will typically always outperform RAID 5 with the same HD config. Isn't RAID10 just RAID5 mirrored? How does that speed up performance? Or am I missing something? -- Mitch Hi Mitch, Nope,

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2005-01-03 Thread Mitch Pirtle
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:23:13 -0800, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RAID 10 will typically always outperform RAID 5 with the same HD config. Isn't RAID10 just RAID5 mirrored? How does that speed up performance? Or am I missing something? -- Mitch ---(end

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew Hood
Joshua D. Drake wrote: An Opteron, properly tuned with PostgreSQL will always beat a Xeon in terms of raw cpu. RAID 10 will typically always outperform RAID 5 with the same HD config. Fibre channel in general will always beat a normal (especially an LSI) raid. Dell's suck for PostgreSQL. Does any

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2004-12-13 Thread Joshua D. Drake
However, I keep getting conflicting advice. My choices are along these lines: Dual Xeon 64bit with built-in 6-disk RAID10 or RAID5 (LSI RAID card) Dual Opteron 64bit with built-in 6-disk RAID10 or RAID5 (LSI RAID card) Dual Opteron 64bit with external RAID via fibre channel (eg, nstor) An Opteron

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2004-12-13 Thread Josh Berkus
Vivek, > Dual Xeon 64bit with built-in 6-disk RAID10 or RAID5 (LSI RAID card) > Dual Opteron 64bit with built-in 6-disk RAID10 or RAID5 (LSI RAID card) > Dual Opteron 64bit with external RAID via fibre channel (eg, nstor) Opteron over Xeon, no question.Not only are the Opterons real-world-fa

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2004-12-13 Thread Vivek Khera
> "BS" == Bo Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BS> The servers listed above are the dell 2650's which have perc 3 BS> controllers. I have seen on this list where they are know for not BS> performing well. So any suggestions for an attached scsi device would BS> be greatly appreciated. Als

Re: [PERFORM] Hardware purchase question

2004-11-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Bo, > 2 - 2.4 Ghz Xeon processors > 4GB ram > 4 36gb 1rpm scsi drives configured for raid 10 Hopefully you've turned OFF hyperthreading? > gains can I expect on average from swapping from 4 disk raid 10 to 14 disk > raid 10? Could I expect to see 40 - 50% better throughput. This is so depe