Re: [Pharo-dev] Font chooser broken (12704)

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Nicolai Hess wrote > Sean, can you look at my latest submission > for 12704. It looks good. I made a few more small changes. Check my new slice… in the future I think we make a new issue with fixes to previously integrated fixes to keep things clear... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in

[Pharo-dev] Font chooser broken (12704)

2014-01-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
Sean, can you look at my latest submission for 12704. There were some types in your slice := instead of = or each value: aBlock instead of aBlock value:each And an error with Announcements for FontChooser that were sent to the PluggableListMorph too. nicolai

Re: [Pharo-dev] Null Object Pattern

2014-01-24 Thread Carlo
Tried in Pharo3.0 update: #30651 and the following worked: 1. OCASTTranslator class>>initialise Removed line referring to the selector and then re-initialise. 2. RBMessageNode>>isInlineIfNil Removed the reference to the ifNil:ifNotNil: selector so not picked up as inlined. 3. Created a

Re: [Pharo-dev] asReactiveVariable ????

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I agree that it did not belong in a feature-freeze phase. I'm sorry. I didn't realize it would create such a problem (reminds me of substring -> subString ha ha). There are however, valid reasons for changing the name, so let's discuss after the release. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message

[Pharo-dev] Issue 12720 Spec: Button Layout Occludes Label

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12720 Screenshots and code attached. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Issue-12720-Spec-Button-Layout-Occludes-Label-tp4739124.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] how do I install gitfiletree?

2014-01-24 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 23 Jan 2014, at 10:50, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > > I had a talk with Thierry and GitFileTree isn't supported on Windows. > > Due to OSProcess. > > Is the libgit2 going to solve that? > > > yes, libgit2 will be distributed with… er…

Re: [Pharo-dev] asReactiveVariable ????

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
Do whatever you want, I have no more motivation to discuss this anymore Ben On 24 Jan 2014, at 14:34, Pharo4Stef wrote: > Hi guys, > > I think that we will rename all the asReactiveVariable that got introduced > into their old name asValueHolder. > And we will rename the class too to its old

Re: [Pharo-dev] problems with RPackage and cie...

2014-01-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12718 that should fix the problem. we’ll see :P Esteban On 24 Jan 2014, at 14:58, Benjamin wrote: > Step to reproduce: > > Open latest Pharo30719. > Create a new package with shortcut or menu. > Name it ‘AST-Monkey’ (to have a RPackage not a Tag) > Go in ano

[Pharo-dev] asReactiveVariable ????

2014-01-24 Thread Pharo4Stef
Hi guys, I think that we will rename all the asReactiveVariable that got introduced into their old name asValueHolder. And we will rename the class too to its old name. Why? I think that we should not change at the last moment ValueHolder into ReactiveVariable even if the name could be better

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] [Fuel] Back to stable builds

2014-01-24 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Thanks Max! So you finally implemented the prunning? If true, what about opening an issue to prune the stack in Pharo when: 1) we export from a debugger 2) the jenkins CI saves the failed test ? Thanks!!! On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Max Leske wrote: > Hi guys > > So apparently somehow

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 2711 Monticello wastes significant amounts of memory

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stephan Eggermont wrote > The number of distinct authors of monticello packages is not so large. > ... > Can we expect issues if we replace the author string by a symbol? > … > I don’t think this should be a must-fix for 3.0 If it's not for 4.0, how about a real object? Something like "Authors aut

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 2711 Monticello wastes significant amounts of memory

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote > If it's not for 4.0... Should have been "not for 3.0"… duh... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Issue-2711-Monticello-wastes-significant-amounts-of-memory-tp4739068p4739080.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing li

[Pharo-dev] Issue 2711 Monticello wastes significant amounts of memory

2014-01-24 Thread Stephan Eggermont
The number of distinct authors of monticello packages is not so large. MCVersionInfo allInstances size 13984 Pharo 30716 30721 Moose 5.0 (on 30714) (MCVersionInfo allInstances collect: [ :each | each author ]) asSet size 129 Pharo 30716 269 Moose 5.0 Can we expect issues if we replace the auth

Re: [Pharo-dev] Null Object Pattern

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
On Jan 24, 2014, at 4:57 AM, "Nicolai Hess [via Smalltalk]" wrote: > Do you know this places where ifNil:ifNotNil: is called? > If so, you coulde change them to ifWorldNil:ifWorldNotNil: > and implement this on World, ActiveWorld, NullWorld and UndefinedObject. If I can't do it effectively with t

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:53, Marcus Denker wrote: > What will it help? Who will then decide? Why does that person not help > deciding now? Because it requires downloading an image, loading the slices check the diff. If in Lille this can takes few minutes (which is already long), in Chile this is

Re: [Pharo-dev] problems with RPackage and cie...

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
Step to reproduce: Open latest Pharo30719. Create a new package with shortcut or menu. Name it ‘AST-Monkey’ (to have a RPackage not a Tag) Go in another package. Select some classes. CMD M + CMD C (and probably with the menu too) (note that the Drag n’ Drop works) Type the name of the package ‘AS

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Pablo Estefó
I wish you the best for you guys and please stay safe! Which are the reliable channels to know whats happening and spread the word? On Jan 22, 2014, at 15:06, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > My dear Pharo friends, > > I have no idea if you are aware, but now a big country named Ukraine is > facing a

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Jan 2014, at 14:48, Benjamin wrote: > On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:25, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> And I can not be the only person who decides things. I think people have no >> idea how tiring it is >> to take a decisions like that all the time. >> >> The tiring thin about integrating is not

Re: [Pharo-dev] problems with RPackage and cie...

2014-01-24 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Esteban wrote: >I would really like a reproducible case… in the form of an image, if no else. > >btw… moose 5.0 images are severely broken in that area, so if you are using >one of them you *will* have problems. I can deny that it is a Moose problem, I can reproduce it in Pharo 30716 on mac Op

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:25, Marcus Denker wrote: > > And I can not be the only person who decides things. I think people have no > idea how tiring it is > to take a decisions like that all the time. > > The tiring thin about integrating is not the integration. It’s the fact that > one has to *de

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Torsten Bergmann
It is not the first time we do a release and not the last time and in the worst case we have some updates afterwards. So the warning is clear: no radical changes anymore. But we should try to improve and stabilize the system (as ever). Step by step... Thx T. @Marcus: we appreciate this decisio

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Jan 2014, at 14:24, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 24 Jan 2014, at 14:19, Benjamin > wrote: > >> On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:18, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> In beta normally we should not change things that require people to change >>> again code... >> >> Then do not integrate them ... >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Jan 2014, at 14:19, Benjamin wrote: > On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:18, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> In beta normally we should not change things that require people to change >> again code... > > Then do not integrate them ... > The issue was “fix to include” which is defined as “do not think,

Re: [Pharo-dev] problems with RPackage and cie...

2014-01-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I would really like a reproducible case… in the form of an image, if no else. btw… moose 5.0 images are severely broken in that area, so if you are using one of them you *will* have problems. Esteban On 24 Jan 2014, at 13:28, Goubier Thierry wrote: > > > Le 23/01/2014 18:57, Benjamin Van

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
On 24 Jan 2014, at 10:18, Marcus Denker wrote: > In beta normally we should not change things that require people to change > again code... Then do not integrate them ... Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Jan 2014, at 13:48, Benjamin wrote: > On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:44, Marcus Denker wrote: >> “Why do I hate it when I tried to build a new 3.0 image to improve that >> slice, that the image building ends in : >> >> KeyNotFound: key #TasklistMorph not found in SystemDictionary >> >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Pavel Krivanek
We should be restrained at the start of Pharo 4 development too because we firstly need to improve modularization of the system. It's common that at the start of the development cycle a huge amount of various modifications is integrated and often with only little regards on modularization. Then to

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:44, Marcus Denker wrote: > “ Why do I hate it when I tried to build a new 3.0 image to improve that > slice, that the image building ends in : > > KeyNotFound: key #TasklistMorph not found in SystemDictionary > > because of my settings?” > > > WE NEED TO

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Jan 2014, at 13:11, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > EstebanLM wrote >> *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way > > Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on a rabid > cleaning. In all fairness, I tagged some of those "later" :-P > We rea

Re: [Pharo-dev] problems with RPackage and cie...

2014-01-24 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 23/01/2014 18:57, Benjamin Van Ryseghem a écrit : Just that you know I faced it again :( I created a new RPackage, move classes in the newly created RPackage. And when I wanted to commit the code, it was empty. Have you tried with the old Browser to see if your classes were in the right c

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Benjamin
I highly doubt of the usability of Nautilus even in one month and a half ... Ben On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:10, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > EstebanLM wrote >> *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way > > Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
EstebanLM wrote > *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way Sorry :) I got burned by Morphic in a personal project and went on a rabid cleaning. In all fairness, I tagged some of those "later" :-P - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.wo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30717

2014-01-24 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote > 3) That definitely should be a Slot! :-) Yes! That will be fun for 4.0 :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/update-3-0-30717-tp4738921p4739008.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
yes people. *please* stop cleaning, enhancing, and modifying the image in any way but the bugfixing need to make it run *as is*. Of course we can discuss everything, but any change will be, if so, in Pharo 4, not now (and Pharo 4 should start in one and a half month, so you can wait). cheers,

[Pharo-dev] Bug in File Browser

2014-01-24 Thread J.F. Rick
I'm not sure whether to file this bug under Morphic or File System, but when you shorten a text file and save it using the File Browser, the file length stays the same, leaving the tail end of the previous content. For instance, say you had a file with content Hello World and you shortened it to Hi

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 8e7ba4: 30719

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 8e7ba4a8cc391dd005e710a575f67791d50dbbfe https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/8e7ba4a8cc391dd005e710a575f67791d50dbbfe Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-01-24 (Fri, 24 Jan 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30719 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 71e467: 30718

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 71e467f8753793c3424216b9335c8c8c4a860476 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/71e467f8753793c3424216b9335c8c8c4a860476 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-01-24 (Fri, 24 Jan 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30718 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30717 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4dee16: 30717

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4dee1665117ef627e5afd7f46ebe11693c079ae9 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4dee1665117ef627e5afd7f46ebe11693c079ae9 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-01-24 (Fri, 24 Jan 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30716 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] cf56b5: 30716

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Null Object Pattern

2014-01-24 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/24 Sean P. DeNigris > Thank you everyone. Yes, the subject is a bit misleading ;) I'll give you > my > exact use case to make things clearly… > > I'm cleaning up the globals ActiveWorld and World. There are methods such > as > Morph>>world that sometimes return one of the above, or nil. As

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3b6857: 30715

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3b685791925dae9edf5025aaae1b22f21ca34b58 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3b685791925dae9edf5025aaae1b22f21ca34b58 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-01-24 (Fri, 24 Jan 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-24 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30715 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] About doing things late (1 month before release)

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We *really* need to take care. From what I see, people under-estimate just how much everything has consequences… *every*thing that we do will need multiple iterations. Please make sure to take that into account when pushing for something to be added to Pharo3 instead of waiting for Pharo4.

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30719

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
30719 - 12703 revert DockingBarMorph>>updatePosition https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12703 12704 clean FontMorphChooser https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12704 Diff information: http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main/Morphic-Base-MarcusDenker.253.diff http://smallta

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30718

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Denker
30718 - 12519 Codepanel in ByteCode view should be read only https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12519 12693 TasklistMorph Navigation Cleanup https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12693 12705 Better implementation of a method from case 12163 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/case

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ConfigurationOfNacl

2014-01-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
btw… you can add a job in pharo-contribution (public and free :P ), https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution that will run all the tests (in all platforms, if needed), so you can be sure tests pass :) Esteban On 24 Jan 2014, at 09:26, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hernan, > > thanks for you co

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] ConfigurationOfNacl

2014-01-24 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hernan, thanks for you contribution. But it does not works in mac :( 1) Smalltalk os isMac does not exists, now is Smalltalk os isMacOSX 2) after fixing that, tests does not run either :( Esteban On 24 Jan 2014, at 07:25, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > I have added ConfigurationOfNacl to Ph

Re: [Pharo-dev] I think the tree nodes should be based on name-matching and not only per-package. For example: In 4.0, let's query the Metacello configuratio

2014-01-24 Thread Goubier Thierry
Sean, I find this very interesting. Le 24/01/2014 03:11, Sean DeNigris a écrit : > I think the tree nodes should be based on name-matching and not only per-package I should've appended: "as a compromise for the time being"... In 4.0, imagine this killer combination: - Declare high-level logic