Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-15 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 14/06/2014 15:03, stepharo a écrit : „Improving tools“: One aspect is making the tools aware of new achievements in the core. Another aspect is to finish things that did change in the past like e.g. keybindings. Nautilus uses new keyboard shortcut while other tools use old ones. That is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-15 Thread stepharo
I cannot agree more on that one :) For me this is consolidation: making the whole system very consistent and coherent is damn important so that user (particularly new user) are surprised as few as possible. I am willing to help on that if any direction is decided. between you and me, I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-15 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Agree Le 15/06/2014 09:34, stepharo a écrit : between you and me, I always raised this point but I was not heard (personally I'm not fan of composed keys) So hilaire to help we should use keybinding (check the draft chapter in pharo for the entreprise) and kill all the hardcoded bindings.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-15 Thread Ben Coman
Can some low-priority consideration be given to the compiler accepting methods of the form: MyClassmyMethod in accessors ^ 1 + 3 The current System Browser my also be switched to that method at the same time, or a new System Browser opened if this is entered from Workspace. I see

Re: [Pharo-dev] ConfigurationOfIDE, ConfigurationOfMorphicUI

2014-06-15 Thread stepharo
I love that. I got sick last week now I will try to allocate time to finish the widgets repackaging and your suggestions. stef On 10/6/14 22:02, Pavel Krivanek wrote: Hi, I were successful in two small battles on the remodularization front. Firstly I'm able again to build image with

[Pharo-dev] Survey - needing Protocol Chooser when creating methods from the debugger

2014-06-15 Thread Ben Coman
Just surveying opinion, when pressing the 'Create' (method) button in the debugger, how critical do people consider the need for the Protocol Chooser at that time? Personally I find it interrupts my flow, since often I don't feel comfortable with the conventions to choose which protocol it

[Pharo-dev] [ann] beacon - a slim announcement-based logging engine

2014-06-15 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important area for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At the same time, I also think that Pharo provides an infrastructure that makes room for ideas

Re: [Pharo-dev] Survey - needing Protocol Chooser when creating methods from the debugger

2014-06-15 Thread Ben Coman
Ben Coman wrote: Just surveying opinion, when pressing the 'Create' (method) button in the debugger, how critical do people consider the need for the Protocol Chooser at that time? Personally I find it interrupts my flow, since often I don't feel comfortable with the conventions to choose

Re: [Pharo-dev] Survey - needing Protocol Chooser when creating methods from the debugger

2014-06-15 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
For me, having to choose a protocol before creating the method is contrary to TDD spirit of “go to the green as fast as you can, clean later”. So yes, instead enhance it, I would directly remove the protocol chooser in that workflow… Esteban On 15 Jun 2014, at 10:11, Ben Coman

Re: [Pharo-dev] Survey - needing Protocol Chooser when creating methods from the debugger

2014-06-15 Thread Attila Magyar
+1 organization of the protocols is part of refactoring EstebanLM wrote For me, having to choose a protocol before creating the method is contrary to TDD spirit of “go to the green as fast as you can, clean later”. So yes, instead enhance it, I would directly remove the protocol chooser in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-15 Thread Ben Coman
stepharo wrote: Soon soon :) but in this form MyClassmyMethod [ ^ 1 + 3 ] Glad to hear it. Can you consider some _optional_ way to also specify the protocol. Some random ideas... 1. MyClassaccessorsmyMethod: anObject 2. MyClass'accessors'myMethod: anObject 3.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-15 Thread Serge Stinckwich
and copy-paste that in playground and CTRL-O will open the Browser ;-) On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Soon soon :) but in this form MyClassmyMethod [ ^ 1 + 3 ] ;) MyClassmyMethod in accessors ^ 1 + 3 The current System Browser my

Re: [Pharo-dev] Survey - needing Protocol Chooser when creating methods from the debugger

2014-06-15 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
I vote for just letting the method unclassified and a test case detecting unclassified methods to not forget classifying the method later On Jun 15, 2014 10:04 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Just surveying opinion, when pressing the 'Create' (method) button in the debugger, how

[Pharo-dev] Announcer#when:send:to:

2014-06-15 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
The method Announcer#when:send:to: seems new in Pharo 3 (it does exist in Pharo 2, but inherited from Object, doing something else), while the older equivalent Announcer#on:send:to: does exist in Pharo 2, but is deprecated in Pharo 3. This poses a problem for x-platform code targeting both

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ann] beacon - a slim announcement-based logging engine

2014-06-15 Thread Johan Fabry
That looks very cool! I agree that logging objects is the way to go, and now that we have all this infrastructure we should be able to better make use of object-based logs. I was just thinking about this issue a couple of weeks ago, and beacon might just be the solution for me. I hope to find

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ann] beacon - a slim announcement-based logging engine

2014-06-15 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Well written, as always :-) Alexandre On Jun 15, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important area for which we have to have a

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