Hi,
I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the
SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically
important area for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At
the same time, I also think that Pharo provides an infrastructure that
makes room
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:52 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:
Hi,
I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the
SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important
area for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At the same
On 16 Jun 2014, at 08:52, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:
Hi,
I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the
SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important area
for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At the same time, I
On 16 Jun 2014, at 08:25, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:
Hi sven
Objects are the way to go.
Yes !
Will this compatible be with SystemLogger? I mean could not you use
SystemLogger?
I hope that SystemLogger can work with a subsystem that generates a stream of
log objects, without
Stef,
Am 16.06.2014 um 08:52 schrieb stepharo steph...@free.fr:
Hi,
I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the
SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important area
for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At the same time, I
Hi guys,
we all are talking about the syntax fitting in a postcard, but was there any
real postcard with Pharo syntax prototype? This would be really interesting.
Uko
On 15 Jun 2014, at 15:04, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
Hi,
I like very much the new energy people are putting into creating the
SystemLogger engine for Pharo. I think this is a specifically important area
for which we have to have a solution out of the box. At the same time, I
I find I'm unable to use a recent vm with Roassal/cairo on Mac OS 7.5. The dec
12 version works, but all new ones say: failed to get a symbol address:
cairo_image_surface_create
Stephan
I could not agree more with you
I am very much against One ring to Rule them All , it did not work for
Sauron in Lord of the Rings for the exact reason why its a bad idea to put
all your eggs in one basket. Once it fails in a fundamental level you are
screwed forever.
People reinvent the wheel
@Kilon, you said almost the same thing, how comes that you do not agree with me?
Uko
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:03, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
I could not agree more with you
I am very much against One ring to Rule them All , it did not work for
Sauron in Lord of the Rings for
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:01, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
I find I'm unable to use a recent vm with Roassal/cairo on Mac OS 7.5.
I am assuming this is a typo, right ?
Mac OS System 7.5 is from September 1994 ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_7#Version_history
The dec 12
I think its awesome that you try to make a 3d game engine for Pharo. I know
its not an easy task by a long mark, its tons of hard work to have
something reliable. Thank you for your efforts and if you want a beta
tester I will be more than happy to help you.
Saying that I am highly skeptical .
you have the flyer of Damien (no idea where it is) but no real postcard.
Stef
On 16/6/14 09:35, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi guys,
we all are talking about the syntax fitting in a postcard, but was there any
real postcard with Pharo syntax prototype? This would be really interesting.
Uko
Ah, no, it’s my fault. Sometimes I implicitly skip the middle of a sentence :).
Uko
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:34, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
I could not agree more with you means that I agree with you 100%. Its one
of the strange things of language to use a negative to imply a
Hi Norbert,
Indeed it was not meant as I don’t like yours here is mine.
It was meant as I don’t like yours because ... so here is my concrete
proposal of how to address ...
And the goal is not SystemLogger vs Beacon either. The goal should be the
one cool engine that will ship with Pharo 4.
I guess it’s here: http://files.pharo.org/media/flyer-cheat-sheet.pdf
I think that it would be interesting to put the syntax on a postcard. It can
work as a proof of concept, some addition cheat-sheet for newcomers and also as
some king of souvenir.
Uko
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:36, stepharo
Am 16.06.2014 um 10:57 schrieb Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com:
And the goal is not SystemLogger vs Beacon either. The goal should be the one
cool engine that will ship with Pharo 4.
Good. That is my only goal.
Norbert
### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp:
- Showed GTInspector at speakerconf.com
- Gave a talk about Pharo at NDC Oslo:
http://vimeo.com/channels/ndc2014/97315968
- Fixed with Andrei the Rubric performance problem with syntax highlighting
- Implemented an Announcement based
Sure, that is the way we should follow from pharo 4.0 on. Making a modular
system means making dependencies visible. If you compose your system there will
be parts that are closer to the core and parts which are farther away like
applications. The logging is just one thing we need to be closer
sure you guys know pharo better than me , I am sure you will make the right
choice :)
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote:
Sure, that is the way we should follow from pharo 4.0 on. Making a
modular system means making dependencies visible. If you compose
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
- Like I said in my document and like I tried to show in my implementation
for Zinc, I want framework agnostic pure object logging, so I don't want to
subclass from anything (I do from Announcement, but that is an
Hi Sven,
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu
wrote:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
- Like I said in my document and like I tried to show in my
implementation for Zinc, I want framework agnostic pure object logging, so
I
Am 16.06.2014 um 12:10 schrieb Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com:
Hi Sven,
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
- Like I said in my document and like I tried to show in my
Am 16.06.2014 um 09:15 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 08:25, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:
Hi sven
Objects are the way to go.
Yes !
Will this compatible be with SystemLogger? I mean could not you use
SystemLogger?
I hope that SystemLogger
Norbert Hartl wrote:
Am 16.06.2014 um 09:15 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 08:25, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:
Hi sven
Objects are the way to go.
Yes !
Will this compatible be with SystemLogger?
I
On 16 Jun 2014, at 09:00, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 05:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:01, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:
I find I'm unable to use a recent vm with Roassal/cairo on Mac OS 7.5.
I am
Hi everyone. I need to generate arbitrary number of checkboxes and I wander if
there is something like a list with checkboxes or something similar. I know
that I can use dynamic UI, but maybe there are some existing components that
can help to solve the problem.
Uko
Did you check TreeModelbeCheckList ?
Le 16 juin 2014 à 14:36, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Hi everyone. I need to generate arbitrary number of checkboxes and I wander
if there is something like a list with checkboxes or something similar. I
know that I can use dynamic UI, but maybe there are
No, I thought that chances for list to have checkboxes are higher than for tree
:)
Thank you
On 16 Jun 2014, at 14:52, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr
wrote:
Did you check TreeModelbeCheckList ?
Le 16 juin 2014 à 14:36, Yuriy Tymchuk a écrit :
Hi everyone. I need to
I got it from Stef, who always said it came originally from Ralph Johnson.
http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?SmalltalkSyntaxInaPostcard
Googling around finds various copies of this, but no original source.
Oscar
On 16 Jun 2014, at 10:58 , Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote:
I guess it’s
I made a little cheat sheet package from
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/HOExtras/packages/HOCheatSheet
A HOCheatSheet is a set of useful things to remember
See Class Side.
Using content from Chris Rathman / chrisr...@aol.com
Obviously not a postcard :-)
Phil
On Mon, Jun 16,
Thank you, this is interesting
Uko
On 16 Jun 2014, at 15:35, Oscar Nierstrasz oscar.nierstr...@gmail.com wrote:
I got it from Stef, who always said it came originally from Ralph Johnson.
http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?SmalltalkSyntaxInaPostcard
Googling around finds various copies of this,
Add this to the wishlist:
- Scoped refactorings. Particularly method renames. I'd like to scope
the refactorings to class, hierarchy, package or global level. :)
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-15 11:18 GMT-03:00 Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com:
and copy-paste that in playground and
Le 16/06/2014 16:13, Esteban A. Maringolo a écrit :
Add this to the wishlist:
- Scoped refactorings. Particularly method renames. I'd like to scope
the refactorings to class, hierarchy, package or global level. :)
I think it's already there :)
Just need a way to use them. I may already
Le 16/06/2014 16:24, Goubier Thierry a écrit :
Le 16/06/2014 16:13, Esteban A. Maringolo a écrit :
Add this to the wishlist:
- Scoped refactorings. Particularly method renames. I'd like to scope
the refactorings to class, hierarchy, package or global level. :)
I think it's already there
2014-06-16 16:13 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com:
Add this to the wishlist:
- Scoped refactorings. Particularly method renames. I'd like to scope
the refactorings to class, hierarchy, package or global level. :)
This is already in the image. You can click on browse
Hi,
Here is a concrete example of how cool object logging can be. In the current
development version, Zinc HTTP Components announces a number of ZnLogEvent
objects while either ZnClient or ZnServer operates. One of those is
ZnServerTransactionEvent, which signals the completion of a single
Uhm yes 10.7.5 of course. Opening the Roassal examples in a Moose image
triggers the problem
Stephan
This is really cool, and could enable live instrumentation for server
health monitoring.
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-16 12:29 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
Hi,
Here is a concrete example of how cool object logging can be. In the current
development version, Zinc HTTP
I do :)
Doru
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr
wrote:
Le 16/06/2014 16:24, Goubier Thierry a écrit :
Le 16/06/2014 16:13, Esteban A. Maringolo a écrit :
Add this to the wishlist:
- Scoped refactorings. Particularly method renames. I'd like to
Thanks for the explanation, Eliot.
I am not sure there is a problem resolving localhost and binding to it, as the
server did work in the case described, it was just not accessible by curl.
I guess we might have to shake down some issue with ipv6 in the future, we'll
see.
On 14 Jun 2014, at
Very nice example!
Doru
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Hi,
Here is a concrete example of how cool object logging can be. In the
current development version, Zinc HTTP Components announces a number of
ZnLogEvent objects while either ZnClient or
I was thinking of getting statistics of the usage of our REST API.
With this technique I could do it without modifying my current
classes, in an orthogonal way.
This opens up many possibilities.
Regards!
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-16 17:33 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com:
Very
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