Re: [Pharo-dev] XMLDomParser Changes in Pharo 3.0?

2014-09-17 Thread stepharo
Hi sean can you improve the class comment or the wiki on SmalltalkHub. I do not think that monty is reading this mailing list. One we should get a chapter on XML. What I know is that having validating parser was important and monty did some good job there. Stef Sean P. DeNigris wrote the

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] e68dcc: 40228

2014-09-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: e68dccd4e4eddd40b111a3971ab6c09d4901d03b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/e68dccd4e4eddd40b111a3971ab6c09d4901d03b Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-09-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40228 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 3350b9: 40229

2014-09-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 3350b900bb8f285775fc46e196411a043845ee1a https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/3350b900bb8f285775fc46e196411a043845ee1a Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-09-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40229 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

2014-09-17 Thread stepharo
please submit your ideas to the Pharo Board who is currently gathering them. As soon as they have a proposal, I will do my best to implement it. Damien please collect them because the board is %#$^^* busy. and then you can said to the board here is what I think is good. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

2014-09-17 Thread stepharo
On 16/9/14 15:17, Damien Cassou wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: How? send a mail to Esteban maybe :-) Please don't :) Damien please collect this information else we will never make progress. Esteban is flooded by work. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

2014-09-17 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed. Please collect them, Damien. It would be a great help. Doru On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: On 16/9/14 15:17, Damien Cassou wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: How? send a mail to Esteban maybe

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

2014-09-17 Thread Nicolai Hess
Or create fogbugz entries. 2014-09-17 9:54 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Indeed. Please collect them, Damien. It would be a great help. Doru On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: On 16/9/14 15:17, Damien Cassou wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at

[Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Monticello kinds of freezes my image for a *very* long time. Long, meaning that it never completes I guess. Memory use shoots through the roof. What could cause that? I have been saving more than 200 versions of my package. Thanks for some advice from the trenches. Phil

[Pharo-dev] config change ci server Pharo4: run AsmJIT tests

2014-09-17 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, We disabled running ASMJit tests before releasing Pharo2… (because of random crashed back then). Of course we forgot to turn it on again. I did that now. This is https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-4.0-Update-Step-2.1-Validation-A-L/ Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On which operation ? I have 400+ versions of some packages, the size of your local package-cache might be an issue (you could try deleting everything older than a year for example, it's a cache after all). Working with a slow repository might also be an issue, some network operations

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Launcher Impressions

2014-09-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Yes, createfogbugz entries. PharoLauncher is already a project category on the issue tracker. This should be done by the originalrequestor of the ideas - not by Damien. Time will tell if someone has the timeto work on these issues - but at least they will not be forgotten. Best is to also

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Phil, how large is your package? We talked about very large packages with Sebastian Sastre not so long ago. Can you interrupt it to see where it is stuck? Thierry 2014-09-17 10:26 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: Monticello kinds of freezes my image for a *very* long

[Pharo-dev] Spec-Morphic tab manager broken

2014-09-17 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi. If you have any knowledge on how Spec adapters work, maybe you can take a look. To reproduce the bug: execute: TabsExample open and select one of (non-active) the tabs. Case here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14030/MorphicTabManagerAdapter-doesNotUnderstand-tabSelected

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
Is it caught in a kind of loop trying to find the base version? Scanning through the ancestors and adding all those to the package cache? Thierry 2014-09-17 11:07 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: Filesize is around 1MB. Here is what I do get in the debugger when stopping.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I think that I've found why it got slow like that. I had the store diff instead of full versions (mistakenly selected I guess) and switching things back did the trick. What's that option? Never noticed it and it for sure hurt or plain doesn't work. Phil On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM,

[Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

2014-09-17 Thread Marcus Denker
Hello, There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 days…). A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: - not reproducible - *completely* unclear what action could lead to solve the issue - outdated (e.g. small

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread Stephan Eggermont
What kind of repo is that? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
All the repository types have that option. Thierry 2014-09-17 11:37 GMT+02:00 Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl: What kind of repo is that? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

2014-09-17 Thread Nicolai Hess
Yes but, 2014-09-17 11:25 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: Hello, There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 days…). A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: - not reproducible - *completely* unclear what action

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] ce818b: 40230

2014-09-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: ce818b3f743a0a0c94d86ec1471873b2a79c65ab https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/ce818b3f743a0a0c94d86ec1471873b2a79c65ab Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-09-17 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40230 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

2014-09-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:02, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Yes but, 2014-09-17 11:25 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: Hello, There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 days…). A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Issue Tracker] Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

2014-09-17 Thread Ben Coman
Marcus Denker wrote: Hello, There are right now 675 open issues.  (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 days…). A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: - not reproducible - *completely* unclear what action could lead to solve the issue

[Pharo-dev] Multiple lines parameters editable spec interface

2014-09-17 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Hi Pharo, I would like to design a spec UI for modifying a list of parameters. One line will be composed with the name of the parameter and one editable field. Should I use a MultipleColumnListModel or should I define a new widget of one line and after that composed multiple instance of this

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

2014-09-17 Thread Marcus Denker
What? Pharo Sprint When? Friday, 26th September, starting at 10:00am Where? RMoD, Inria Lille, Building B, third floor http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/contact As the building is not open to the public, please contact us before if you plan to come.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

2014-09-17 Thread Santiago Bragagnolo
RMoD The requested object /web/pier/contact was not found on this server. You might want to try one of these options: - Click on a link on this site. - Jump to the RMoD http://rmod.inria.fr/web?_s=qUUsgYCRA6EccLhv_k=uBiY6VV3xNCuQW_Q_n11 homepage. - If you typed the page address,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

2014-09-17 Thread Santiago Bragagnolo
Where: http://rmod.inria.fr/web/contact 2014-09-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Santiago Bragagnolo santiagobragagn...@gmail.com : RMoD The requested object /web/pier/contact was not found on this server. You might want to try one of these options: - Click on a link on this site. - Jump to the

[Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

2014-09-17 Thread kilon alios
So I tried today to open versioner to make a configuration for Ephestos and i got this error RBMethodNode(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asSequenceNode EphPyParser class(Object)mustBeBooleanInMagic: EphPyParser class(Object)mustBeBoolean MetacelloProjectRegistration classExecuteUnOptimizedIn:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Monticello superslow/freezing

2014-09-17 Thread kilon alios
nope it was not your mistake thats the default, I have been experiencing slow downs as well. Maybe filetree is to blame here, I am using it as well . On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: I think that I've found why it got slow like that. I had the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

2014-09-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote I don't see the advantage of Morphic/Custom drawn UI over traditional widgets, even HTML widgets. From an IDE for business apps perspective, there may be little. But I only find Pharo is a better IDE moderately interesting. The blue plane idea is that Pharo is a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo Sprint Lille 26th september

2014-09-17 Thread Marcus Denker
On 17 Sep 2014, at 16:25, Santiago Bragagnolo santiagobragagn...@gmail.com wrote: Where: http://rmod.inria.fr/web/contact Ups, yes, this is the correct links. 2014-09-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Santiago Bragagnolo santiagobragagn...@gmail.com: RMoD The requested object /web/pier/contact

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Eliot, Le 17/09/2014 00:12, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Thierry, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: There is no outside in Sista. It is an image-level optimizer, so you'll be able to interact with it at the

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 17/09/2014 00:13, Eliot Miranda a écrit : +100. And Smalltalk is being used in real-time applications already, e.g. semiconductor fab machines. It used to be in all of Tektronix's oscilloscaopes. And I remember a HP network analyser whose GUI was written with Digitalk/V. But this is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

2014-09-17 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Torsten, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Eliot, Yes - in the past most Smalltalks did not have native widgets and usually emulated the LF. I remember VW on a Sun Sparc with Windows or Mac look. While it was cool to run 1:1 on another machine

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 17/09/2014 00:27, Eliot Miranda a écrit : On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-09-16 14:19 GMT+02:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com: Python is a great

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

2014-09-17 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Thierry, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eliot, Le 17/09/2014 00:12, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Thierry, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: There is

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

2014-09-17 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-09-17 14:07 GMT-03:00 Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com: - tiny and fast VM with a command line and REPL We're getting there with fast. Tiny needs more definition, but the core Cog/Spur VM on Mac minus plugins and GUI code is 568k, 506k code, 63k data; the newspeak VM which has

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] re: Parsing Pharo syntax to C/C++

2014-09-17 Thread Thierry Goubier
Hi Eliot Le 17/09/2014 19:18, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi Thierry, Yes, and various dialects have a literal constructor for compile-time expressions (I did one for VW) that provide a manual (and hence fragile) way of doing this. As you pointed out this approach breaks when one changes the code

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: The Dilemma: Building a Futuristic GUI for Ephestos

2014-09-17 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Eliot wrote: We're getting there with fast.  Tiny needs more definition, but the core Cog/Spur VM on Mac minus plugins and GUI code is 568k, 506k code, 63k data; the newspeak VM which has fewer primitives but support for two bytecode sets is 453k, 386k code, 68k data.  That includes the

[Pharo-dev] [Review: 12111] (Date readFrom: '4.2.2013' readStream pattern: 'd.m.yy') == 4 February 2020

2014-09-17 Thread Max Leske
In the spirit of Markus’ cleanup please review this suggested fix to date parsing (from november 2013 originally…). I’ve ported the fix forward to 40 (which has the same issue). https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12111/Date-readFrom-4-2-2013-readStream-pattern-d-m-yy-4-February-2020 Cheers, Max

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'm confused about ProcessisTerminated

2014-09-17 Thread Max Leske
Hi Eliot On 16.09.2014, at 20:18, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Max, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As always when I want to check if a process has died I get very confused by #isTerminated and I’m wondering if I just don’t

Re: [Pharo-dev] I'm confused about ProcessisTerminated

2014-09-17 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Max, On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eliot On 16.09.2014, at 20:18, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Max, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As always when I want to check if a process has

Re: [Pharo-dev] Why Bloc?

2014-09-17 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
stepharo wrote - look at what he is doing - we try to document the classes ... How do I start playing with Bloc? After loading the development version into Pharo 3.0 and doing BlMorphToTestMouseEnterLeave new openInWorld I get MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of activeWorld is