Re: [Pharo-dev] Old inspector and explorer

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
Le 26/12/14 19:31, Nicolai Hess a écrit : But sometimes I just want one tool to inspect or explore an object, without multiple scrolling pages, maybe I am just used to it. And I WANT TO DECIDE WHEN!

Re: [Pharo-dev] Old inspector and explorer

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
OK, I understand, but how is this different from any other radical changes that we did ? When we introduced the Eye inspectors we did not offer two options at the same time (and I can give 10s of examples). So what is best, we all together use and make the best tools, or we all work with

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fwd: regression of NaN comparison

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
We do it like that else we could get in really bad position. Now it means that the VM ci should report this error. Stef Le 26/12/14 23:25, Nicolas Cellier a écrit : 2014-12-26 23:07 GMT+01:00 Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com mailto:bera.clem...@gmail.com: 2014-12-26 22:30

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread Craig Latta
Hoi-- Who are you? Who is your audience? thanks, -C -- Craig Latta netjam.org +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread Hilaire
Nice initiative Mr or Mrs Horrido. The more we talk about Smalltalk in several places the better. Hilaire Le 27/12/2014 06:03, horrido a écrit : I've launched a PR campaign to promote and advance the use of Smalltalk (and Amber): http://smalltalkrenaissance.wordpress.com/

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Many languages I have never heard of are listed. What is missing to make Pharo listed here? Any idea? Cheers, Alexandre On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:03 AM, horrido horrido.hobb...@gmail.com wrote: I've launched a PR campaign to promote and advance the use of Smalltalk (and Amber):

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread Sebastian Sastre
And to inspire all, this talk from Bret Victor is addressing the humane aspect in a very effective way http://vimeo.com/115154289 I have the impression that Smalltalk would score high in a humane medium of expression evaluation ... and if our UI/UX would be seriously improved lead by

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread S Krish
What about joining up with Smalltalk Foundation , STIC and ESUG .. Though laudable an initiative in whatever form you launch it. Just may give it a better thrust if there is joining of hands. Smalltalk has not in the past gained with multiple directions / efforts. Pull all efforts in as much as

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread horrido
My name is Richard Eng and I'm a retired software engineer. I've been in IT for over 30 years. I've worked with FORTRAN, Tandem TAL, C/C++/C#/Objective-C, Java, Python, and Smalltalk in a variety of different problem domains ranging from real-time and telecommunications to database and financial

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread horrido
Pharo is mentioned prominently at Smalltalk Renaissance. However, I do not want to give the impression that Smalltalk Renaissance is only about selling one particular implementation to the public. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread horrido
As I said, Smalltalk Renaissance is a rallying point for every fan of the language. However, coordinating with disparate groups would diffuse my time and energy. I believe it's better to have a fresh start that everybody can participate in and contribute to. As curator and editor of Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Smalltalk Renaissance Program

2014-12-27 Thread Sebastian Sastre
So the idea is to be a rallying point for every Smalltalk fan with a bias towards presenting a map to newcomers What do you think that would make a good map? On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:00 PM, horrido horrido.hobb...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, Smalltalk Renaissance is a rallying point for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
Yes, seemingly we lost again the repos of external packages... this is a bug, something in the integraton process resets the reopsitories. Yes because else we can have dangling refs (you remember the mess in Squeak3.9). Now this is why we should have package metadata in the image because we

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
Le 3/12/14 10:08, Marcus Denker a écrit : Yes, seemingly we lost again the repos of external packages... this is a bug, something in the integraton process resets the reopsitories. Yes because else we can have dangling refs (you remember the mess in Squeak3.9). Now this is why we should

Re: [Pharo-dev] Glamour-core maybe missing from Pharo40/main

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
Roma was not created in one day. Now if you have energy I have a pretty long list of issues to be fixed. Stef

[Pharo-dev] About ExampleSetTest

2014-12-27 Thread stepharo
Hi I'm doing the hyper exciting task to update Pharo by Example (trying to do 3 sessions per day to make progress). I do it because I believe that doing is better than talking. Now I'm going over the SUnit chapter and I noticed that the book ask the reader to create the class ExampleSetTest

[Pharo-dev] On Twitter

2014-12-27 Thread horrido
I have to say, I really don't understand this Twitter thing (I'm getting too old for this sh*t). However, I understand that Twitter can be a powerful tool for branding. The power of social media and all that. So I created a Twitter account. My handle is @smalltalkrenais. I just completed my first