Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Woden 2 first release for OS X and Linux

2017-02-25 2:08 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman : > What happens if the wrong type object is passed to a lowcode method? You should get an error. A Lowcode method checks the type of its argument when called from a normal Pharo method. When calling a Lowcode method from another Lowcode

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Woden 2 first release for OS X and Linux

Cool news. I'll try it out soon. I found this paper on Lowcode to share with other curious people... http://www.esug.org/data/ESUG2016/IWST/Papers/IWST_2016_paper_16.pdf A few questions from that... > our extended instructions do not perform run time type checking on their > inputs, so

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Woden 2 first release for OS X and Linux

Hello, I fixed several bugs with Vulkan, so now it is not crashing anymore when using the Linux NVIDIA Vulkan driver. I still have to fix the stuttering problem with Vulkam. Best regards, Ronie 2017-02-24 6:38 GMT-03:00 nolwenn : > Wonderful ! I will try it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

Andreas Wacknitz wrote > Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name. > For internal tools and frameworks this is... like talking in argot and > creates high walls around Pharo. +100 - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code Completion in Pharo

Another random idea, that you can use something similar to Finder>Examples from within the debugger. That is, a shortcut brings up a small popup dialog kind-of inline with the cursor where you can feed live variables into the pattern matching. cheers -ben On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code Completion in Pharo

How would people feel about... when an item is selected from the code completion popup (e.g. with ) that the arguments get expanded as well. These might show up red initially if there is no matching variable and easily show what needs to be edited. cheers -ben On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:57 AM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

Hi Andrei, Le 24/02/2017 à 17:02, Andrei Chis a écrit : Hi Thierry, Strangely enough I'm getting different times on my machine Just to start from the same baseline in a fresh Pharo 60411 image with no changes to any of the inspectors over a series of runs I get: array := (1 to: 100)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea user experience report

Epicea is most valuable jewel i ever wished to have in Pharo.. Martin big thanks for your effort to make such a wonderful piece of software. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

Call it Java[tm] .. .. what? i heard it is quite popular. albeit fuzzy wuzzy :) P.S. just call it Pharo-Remote and let it go -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

Apparently you do not know the amount of time we have to explain to students in FRANCE with internet blocked over a proxy that No Pharo is not dead. It is just a time out. So don't be egoist be adults and use the infrastructure. Use a preference in your system. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

The compromise is that people add an expression in one line in their startup preferences. It sounds reasonable to me. Stef On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:26:43 +0100, Torsten Bergmann wrote: As there were no further objections I guess we should do the following steps as a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

Guillermo such people do not know what is ti teach in the university with a fucking proxy like you and me. It is super easy when you are not expose to the view of newbies. PHARO IS NOT WELL PACKAGED guys. Try to get out our confort zone. The world is different and working. Stef As far as

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

On 24 February 2017 at 21:01, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > 2017-02-24 17:17 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov : > >> >> 2017-02-24 16:36 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek : >> >>> The "guest" object memory runs in a special virtual machine

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

You are telling me that expert developers cannot have a script that automatically set this. I cannot believe. I hope that your confort zone is not too disruptive. I'm really sad. I'm currently writing a book for newbies and I spent my morning talking to people in liberia. Poor guys.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

> On 24 Feb 2017, at 18:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> On 24 Feb 2017, at 18:14, Ben Coman wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> On 20 Feb 2017, at 10:30, Pavel Krivanek

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

2017-02-24 17:17 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov : > > 2017-02-24 16:36 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek : > >> The "guest" object memory runs in a special virtual machine simulator >> during the bootstrapping. That simulator uses AST Interpreter to execute >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

> On 24 Feb 2017, at 18:14, Ben Coman wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 20 Feb 2017, at 10:30, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > > > > > > 2017-02-20 10:27 GMT+01:00 Guillermo Polito

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog loading in Spotter

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > > On 20 Feb 2017, at 10:30, Pavel Krivanek > wrote: > > > > > > > > 2017-02-20 10:27 GMT+01:00 Guillermo Polito : > > As far as I remember, the main problem was

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

I second this wholeheartedly! Everything that is used outside Pharo could have a fancy name. For internal tools and frameworks this is IMO really irritating and repellent. It is like talking in argot and creates high walls around Pharo. Andreas Am 24.02.17 um 17:18 schrieb Brad Selfridge: I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > 2017-02-24 15:58 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek > > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have published a short video

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

I understand that if a developer is building a standalone application, (like Windows, Apache, Slack, Git, .. PHARO !!! ), then a fuzzy-wuzzy name may make sense. But, there are so many packages that are built for Pharo/Squeak use only, that have cryptic names and no descriptions. This drives

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

2017-02-24 16:36 GMT+01:00 Pavel Krivanek : > The "guest" object memory runs in a special virtual machine simulator > during the bootstrapping. That simulator uses AST Interpreter to execute > the code inside the guest environment before it is installed for real. It >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea - showing latest lost changes

Except you may need to exclude the last few changes which made your image crash. Maybe there could be two buttons "1. Select lost changes" and "2. Restore selected" which gives you the opportunity to manually deselect between the steps. Step 1 might select only the latest of each method, without

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

Hi Thierry, Strangely enough I'm getting different times on my machine Just to start from the same baseline in a fresh Pharo 60411 image with no changes to any of the inspectors over a series of runs I get: array := (1 to: 100) asArray. [array inspect] timeToRun.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

2017-02-24 16:31 GMT+01:00 Martin Dias : > Great! any idea how far is new Ring from replacing old Ring? > In Pharo 7. Right now the new version can live in the image next to the old one. > > Martín > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Ben Coman

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

Great! any idea how far is new Ring from replacing old Ring? Martín On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have published a short video of the Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

2017-02-24 15:58 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman : > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring >> model that is browsed and modified by the Calypso browser.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea - showing latest lost changes

I have one more suggestion for Epicea. When the window pops up I’d like to have a big “RESTORE” button to reapply all the changes. I think it will be also more user friendly, as how should an newcomer know that he has to select all the items in the list and use the context menu. Cheers. Uko >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring > model that is browsed and modified by the Calypso browser. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QguZSPKo7-w > > No audio, please

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

This is what we call having a vision :) Nice! It is interesting how all these projects are coming together… :-) Marcus On 24 Feb 2017, at 13:36, Pavel Krivanek wrote: Hi, I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring model

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 60 : 60410 DNU on commit and no idea how to copy the stack :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

thanks Yes it will be much better. Stef On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 10:39:51 +0100, Andrei Chis wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:44 AM, stepharong wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 00:05:10 +0100, Andrei Chis wrote: -

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

2017-02-24 15:43 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: > >> >> 2017-02-24 14:29 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : >> >>> There should be no hidden costs in

[Pharo-dev] Pharo days 2017 at Lille: block the dates 18/19 of May

Dear Pharoers I’m happy to tell you that we will organise a new edition of the PharoDays at Lille the 18 et 19 of May. The program and registration will be announced soon. The setup will be similar to the ones of previous editions: Little cool presentations and hacking/discussions sessions

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2017-02-24 14:29 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > >> There should be no hidden costs in GTInspectorIndexedNodes. >> I made some experiments in the latest Pharo version and opening the Raw >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

2017-02-24 14:29 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > There should be no hidden costs in GTInspectorIndexedNodes. > I made some experiments in the latest Pharo version and opening the Raw > view on an array with one million numbers takes around 120ms when 100k > elements are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

2017-02-24 14:29 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Thierry Goubier < > thierry.goub...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Andrei, >> >> 2017-02-24 11:31 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : >> >>> Hi Thierry, >>> >>> Indeed that's

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

If anybody ever did an `apt-cache search name` it will be clear that having a good, concise, intention revealing package name is better than having a sophisticated one. I don't see how in Pharo catalogs and other discovery/browsing mechanisms it would be different. Best regards! Esteban A.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Andrei, > > 2017-02-24 11:31 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > >> Hi Thierry, >> >> Indeed that's the simplest option now that we are using fast table. >> >> Just now in the case of the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

2017-02-24 13:53 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. : > On 24/02/2017 13:36, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring > > model that is browsed and modified by the Calypso browser. > > > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

On 24/02/2017 13:36, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hi, > > I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring > model that is browsed and modified by the Calypso browser. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QguZSPKo7-w > > No audio, please enable subtitles for the description. >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

Nice! It is interesting how all these projects are coming together… :-) Marcus > On 24 Feb 2017, at 13:36, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > Hi, > > I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring model > that is browsed and modified by the

[Pharo-dev] Pharo bootstrap with Ring and Calypso

Hi, I have published a short video of the Pharo bootstrapping from a Ring model that is browsed and modified by the Calypso browser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QguZSPKo7-w No audio, please enable subtitles for the description. Cheers, -- Pavel

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo6][Issue Tracker] 80 Issues tagged for Pharo6

Hi, We have 80 issues left that have the Milestone tag for Pharo6. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/1192/6-0-All It would really be nice if people could check all the issues and decide: “Is this a release critical issue?” if yes —> increase priory to at least “Must Fix”. If not,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [VM] Windows VM SurfacePlugin.dll LoadLibrary failure

Well, I take that back. Today I had the same issue (with the latest VM). Closing the image and reopening it helped, but clearly there is something broken underneath. Peter On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 09:29:12PM +0100, Peter Uhnak wrote: > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:19:00PM +0100, Cyril Ferlicot D.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

Hi Andrei, 2017-02-24 11:31 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > Hi Thierry, > > Indeed that's the simplest option now that we are using fast table. > > Just now in the case of the Raw view an OrderedCollection is used to store > all displayed elements. > If you display large

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any idea for a cool name for the remote tool suite?

Hello, I guess the vote is already cast, but I'd like to add my two Cents: the packages now have a description that give an idea about what the package is supposed to do. Still, discoverability should be considered when finding a name. That's why I would prefer something like TelePharo,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

Hi Thierry, Indeed that's the simplest option now that we are using fast table. Just now in the case of the Raw view an OrderedCollection is used to store all displayed elements. If you display large collections every time you open the Raw view it will instantiate a collection of size 100k and

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Woden 2 first release for OS X and Linux

Wonderful ! I will try it soon. Thanks ! Nolwenn -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-Woden-2-first-release-for-OS-X-and-Linux-tp4935693p4935742.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 60 : 60410 DNU on commit and no idea how to copy the stack :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:44 AM, stepharong wrote: > On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 00:05:10 +0100, Andrei Chis < > chisvasileand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> - How do we get the old textual stack description? >> > > In the toolbar menu of the stack you find 'Fuel out stack' and 'Copy

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

2017-02-24 10:37 GMT+01:00 Thierry Goubier : > Hi Andrei, > > if you're using fasttable for the Raw view, you should be able to reach > one 100k elements without issues. I did some experiments and it handles the > load very well. > > Avoid the paginator at any cost.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

Hi Andrei, if you're using fasttable for the Raw view, you should be able to reach one 100k elements without issues. I did some experiments and it handles the load very well. Avoid the paginator at any cost. This thing is really user-unfriendly. Regards, Thierry 2017-02-23 20:19 GMT+01:00

Re: [Pharo-dev] Raw pane on byteStrings

2017-02-23 20:19 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis : > Hi Stef, > > Currently that's the default behaviour of the Raw view: it displays for > collections only the first and the last 21 elements. The Items view however > always should display all the elements of a collection. > >

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 50371b: 60411

Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 50371be07f025a197679ce3356fd80437e9bcc23 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/50371be07f025a197679ce3356fd80437e9bcc23 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

Branch: refs/tags/60411 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] 17240 Spur, when saving an image, it never shrinks

> On 16 Feb 2017, at 16:16, denker wrote: > > No, > > Our image is not 47 MB… more like 28. > With the newest VM being used on the CI, the 60410 is now 35,7MB instead of 47,7MB. The .zip is down to 17 from 20. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 60 : 60410 DNU on commit and no idea how to copy the stack :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

On 24/02/2017 08:44, stepharong wrote: > Then I do not get why we could not get action about the current context > and action about the complete stack together. > Because these are not method that we see but contexts. > > +1000 I opened an issue about that in Pharo 5 after the integration