Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

2015-04-30 Thread kilon alios
thanks Esteban, very useful tutorial On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:00 PM Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxTpuSHNh2E On 30 Apr 2015, at 16:48, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: esteban can you provide the link to the second videos? Stef Le

Re: [Pharo-dev] Release with Dark Theme

2015-04-24 Thread kilon alios
The No1 thing that bothered me with Pharo was its white theme, found it both horrible (yes much worse than Squeak) and very tiresome for my eyes. Even worse was the white theme of Moose which made it impossible or really hard to see scrollbars , for me, so it was also a problem of contrast not

Re: [Pharo-dev] Release with Dark Theme

2015-04-24 Thread kilon alios
to find in the end that you get what you pay for ;) On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:43 PM Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: icon design and web design are two very different things. I seriously doubt we can get the icon set we need as cheap as you might think. but… we can always

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2015-04-20 until: 2015-04-30

2015-04-22 Thread kilon alios
I have been working on MorphicDoc , which is documentation about Morphic inside the image. Still studying Morphic and trying to figure things out. More to come :) On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:32 AM Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Could JB describe the problem with Metacello? Perhaps there

Re: [Pharo-dev] QualityAssistant v0.4

2015-04-22 Thread kilon alios
There is a solution that I was thinking when I was imagining implementing my own Configuration Browser than I named Tartara. One of the ideas I had was the introduction of packages, which is basically something that would trigger the installation of multiple projects at the same time. So I was

Re: [Pharo-dev] ARM Cogit

2015-04-22 Thread kilon alios
Yes , yes , yes , would love to have Pharo available on Android and use it on my smartphone on a daily basis , thank you very much guys. On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:42 PM Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, thanks to hard work by Tim Rowledge and Lars Wasserman we now

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving the documentation model

2015-04-21 Thread kilon alios
Funnily enough I am in the exact opposite opinion, of Graphical approach being vastly superior to text based approach including programming languages. 25 years using computers and coding with them and still cannot fathom why programming languages are still a think and why developers and power

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving the documentation model

2015-04-21 Thread kilon alios
certainly because natural selection has favoured the choice that had most advantages ... nicolas PS: which does not mean that GUI are completely useless On 21/04/2015 20:03, kilon alios wrote: Funnily enough I am in the exact opposite opinion, of Graphical approach being vastly superior

[Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher all white !!!

2015-04-21 Thread kilon alios
I just downloaded latest pharolauncher from here https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/Launcher/job/Launcher-Mac/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/Pharo_0.2.7.dmg The new PL is all white, is this normal ? I cant see the panels to resize them all see is white and the text.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving the documentation model

2015-04-21 Thread kilon alios
for the record this is something I am interested into contributing. It would be great if we coordinate effort . I don't make big promises but I can definitely spare some hours or even days. I am in the process of documenting Morphic and I definitely want something more interactive something more

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo5] All systems on go!

2015-04-21 Thread kilon alios
yeap that was it, it now displays all , thank you Nicolai :) On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:00 AM Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-04-21 22:47 GMT+02:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com: I cant see pharo classes in Nautiluse apart from a few, unless i open them with GTSpotter

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher all white !!!

2015-04-21 Thread kilon alios
Well I am not complaining , I definitely don't like hard coded colors :) If none will I will take a look , its being sometime since I contributed to PL. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-04-21 22:33 GMT+02:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com: I

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo home page tagline

2015-04-17 Thread kilon alios
I just point them to my own Pharo website which I think it gives a more clear picture what Pharo is all about , but hey , I am biased :) http://thekilon.wix.com/pharo-about On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On reddit I see some questions regarding the IDE

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 5.0] #50001

2015-04-17 Thread kilon alios
make me wonder what pharo version 5001 will look like in 4996 years, but I guess I can compromise for version 5 for now :) keep up the great work On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 50001 - 15288 Shortcuts in text editor are hardcoded

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 4.0 is released!

2015-04-16 Thread kilon alios
great work people, keep pushing forward, sky is the limit :) a minor mistake in the website Check the annonucement http://pharo.org/news/pharo-4.0-released, and the ChangeLogs https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-changelogs/blob/master/Pharo40ChangeLogs.md . should be announcement On Thu,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class comments rendered in Nautilus (through Pillar)

2015-04-16 Thread kilon alios
thank you Damien, will give a look , may I also use configuration browser ? is it up to date ? On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com writes: ok, but where and which repo ? Smalltalkhub ? GitHub ? Is part of Pillar

Re: [Pharo-dev] New User Question on Reddit

2015-04-16 Thread kilon alios
He asked also in irc and I helped him solve the problem by downloading the sources. Στις 17 Απρ 2015 2:11 π.μ., ο χρήστης Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com έγραψε: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9390760 I installed this for Ubuntu 12.04. When I fired it up, it requested I choose

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoV40 sources still broken?

2015-04-15 Thread kilon alios
You dont even need to do all that, just open a new image and immediately complains that sources are missing. But for some strange reason I can browser code , I thought no sources meant not being able to see the source code. Restarting the image saved with the setting to download sources does

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class comments rendered in Nautilus (through Pillar)

2015-04-15 Thread kilon alios
You want it for class comment , I want it for the Help Browser tool for the Morphic documentation project I am doing . This could not come at a better time, cant wait to look at the code, Thank you very much :) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoV40 sources still broken?

2015-04-15 Thread kilon alios
I would not call it unstable, I downloaded the file as Esteban pointed (thank you ) and it works fine for me. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: So what is the last known stable version now? 40605? Or can I use the latest? Peter On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to find versions of core packages?

2015-04-15 Thread kilon alios
You could take a look at the available configuration, there are usually version methods in the instance side like for example version10: spec version: '1.0' imports: #('1.0-baseline' ) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: How does one go about

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class comments rendered in Nautilus (through Pillar)

2015-04-15 Thread kilon alios
ok, but where and which repo ? Smalltalkhub ? GitHub ? Is part of Pillar ? How I install these packages ? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Kasper Osterbye kas...@itu.dk wrote: kilon.alios wrote So if you can provide me a link to your code, even if your code is far from final it will at

Re: [Pharo-dev] PetitMarkdown

2015-04-14 Thread kilon alios
Stef gets fierce emotional at times, he is very passionate about Pharo. I dont think he has a problem with having a good MD parser though it looks like that will be hard to do because of the nature of the MD syntax but his real problem is people porting doc to MD and abandoning or not even giving

Re: [Pharo-dev] Contributing to Bloc

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
. We will try to fix it. Thanks for reporting. Cheers Alain On 06 Apr 2015, at 13:56, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: another weird problem i just found is that right side down arrow menu when clicked it opens in random location instead of bellow its icon. I tried it with System

Re: [Pharo-dev] Contributing to Bloc

2015-04-07 Thread kilon alios
No problem waiting for an answer. Ok then I will keep using it and reporting problems I find. Documenting is something I can do too, I am familiar with pillar , so I will send some pull requests when I get a good understanding of Bloc. Contributing examples is something I can do too, will wait

Re: [Pharo-dev] Contributing to Bloc

2015-04-06 Thread kilon alios
Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-04-06 10:22 GMT+02:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com: Hey guys, these last days I have taken a look at Bloc and really like its design. So I was wondering how I can be of assistance. I am not an experienced pharo jedi like you guys but I think I could do my

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pull Request for UpdatedPharoByExample

2015-04-05 Thread kilon alios
no, as I suspected I have forgot to change from my old email to my new one. Should work now. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: You might have to click on the Watch button on the repo. On Sunday, April 5, 2015, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-05 Thread kilon alios
The problem of people like a tool too much you get a ton of feature requests :D I don't envy those poor developers.

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pull Request for UpdatedPharoByExample

2015-04-05 Thread kilon alios
Strangely enough it does not notify me, probably need to change something in my github settings. On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: Thanks, Gaurav! It is now merged. I don't think one needs to send an email to the mailing list, though, for PRs.

Re: [Pharo-dev] UpdatedPharoByExample for 3.0, 4.0, 5.0

2015-04-04 Thread kilon alios
I agree it makes sense, we can use git tags , or branches. Having separate docs for every version is how it works for all other languages I have used. Its zero extra work. I dont know about the generation of pdfs though, I am not familair with CI / Jenkins and how easy it is to assign specific

Re: [Pharo-dev] Can we have basicRaw in GTInspector?

2015-04-03 Thread kilon alios
I did not know that, thanks On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Apr 2015, at 18:16, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Welcome to the club of GT is awesome and sometimes freezes it all. Happened to me once or twice this morning as well. Switched back

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

2015-04-03 Thread kilon alios
Not me I used to be a windows only user for over a decade and I was always have been wondering why the close /max/min are on the right side when menus start from the left. So when I finally decided to convert to Macos it was a welcomed change and still is. Now you can ask me after 8 years being a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

2015-04-03 Thread kilon alios
It's not as if someone would ask for an OS/2 or a Motif UI theme! There are *LOTS* of people on Windows still ! That is irrelevant really . Thats not how open source works. In open source something maintained or goes in or stays in because someone bothers to code for it. You may get 1 billion

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

2015-04-03 Thread kilon alios
The point is, every piece of code needs to be written and maintained which takes time and energy from other activities. I completely agree with you. I have zero issues of main pharo developers kicking out libraries that are not so much used by pharo users. Those libraries are perfectly capable of

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] New service: The Pharo catalog

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
does the project info depend on the sthub page of the project ? also you put too close Copyright (C) 2015, by Esteban Lorenzano for the Pharo project. people may think that you are the author of all projects. I know you are super Pharo coder, but even a super man coder like you cant create so

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
tried on a new Pharo 4 image, i get tons of the same error Error: instances of Unidentified Object are not indexable . It keeps erroring forever and it does not even allow me to open the debugger :(

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
ok it works with fresh latest image. The new color does not respect the dark theme. I really like the tooltips, is it possible to adjust tooltip depending on the OS so it displays the appropriate shortcut ? On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:14 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: tried on a new

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
My opinion : Even when a tool has its own theme support should still support and respect the central theme.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

2015-04-01 Thread kilon alios
that complementary universal colors work best in this context. Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 01 Apr 2015, at 13:07, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion : Even when a tool has its own theme support should still support and respect the central theme.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving communication and roadmap

2015-03-28 Thread kilon alios
the advantage of a roadmap is that allows people that can agree on principle on a specific kind of approach can work together as a team towards a common goal under the same project. People who cant find someone else to agree with them, or dont like the existing solutions can always follow their

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Quality Assistant: live code critics feedback

2015-03-27 Thread kilon alios
u know I was about to recommend that for code critic. What a coincidence. Installed and using it on my project. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Dear Pharo developers, As you already know I am working on providing better code quality support in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Release will be delayed one week. PLEASE TEST!

2015-03-27 Thread kilon alios
I am testing every single day since when Pharo 4 became available :) Its your fault that Pharo has been rock stable. Apart from some crashes when I tried to install SmaCC in few images but no crashes since then. On the other hand, I always complain one way or another so On Fri, Mar 27,

Re: [Pharo-dev] SmalltalkHub Watch this project is not working for me

2015-03-27 Thread kilon alios
This feature does not work, it never did. It was meant to be implemented at some point but unfortunately the original developer stopped working on StHub and its currently maintained by one dev Esteban and he is very busy. Though I cant complain Esteban recently implemented my No1 feature request a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-26 Thread kilon alios
+1 couldn't agree more :) On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Ok… my 2c: Basically there is a difference between an “example” and a prototype, which is what the gtExample intends to do. Exemplar is just another way to name a prototype. Sorry to

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-03-26 Thread kilon alios
I was talking with a new Pharo user and she was telling me that PharoLauncher was not working on Windows , glad you manage to fix it. Great work Damien , thanks :) I am using it on macos , works great . On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've

Re: [Pharo-dev] could the size of Playground be reduced a bit

2015-03-26 Thread kilon alios
very useful thanks Tudor :) On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, In the latest GT-Playground and GT-Inspector you get the following behavior: - you can resize the windows, and the windows spawned afterwards will remember the dimensions, or - you can

Re: [Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-25 Thread kilon alios
Well personally I would name it as it is , in this case exampleOfInstance , exampleOfInstance: and exampleOfInstanceFrom: examplar means nothing for me. example is also bad choice for something that is not example of code and rather example of an instance.

Re: [Pharo-dev] could the size of Playground be reduced a bit

2015-03-25 Thread kilon alios
oh resizing is already mandatory I am afraid. When the object inspected is big, there is no other option but to resize the whole window. And many if not most useful Pharo objects worth inspecting are big. Plus resizing windows is part of the experience of using a window GUI system. On Wed, Mar

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel issue tracker now on github

2015-03-25 Thread kilon alios
Welcome to the dark side of the fork. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks We’ve moved the issue tracker from Google code to github: https://github.com/theseion/fuel/issues. Cheers, Max

Re: [Pharo-dev] Existing script example pragmas and new GT needs

2015-03-25 Thread kilon alios
Just for your information Bloc already has 150 methods using the example pragma. Most likely there are other libraries out there using it as well. I also suspect since this is new and not documented example will be heavily used in the future because having example code is too useful to pass. I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
There is a big diffirence between Morphic and the other. Morphic is a full solution and mature one as well. The others , with the exception of Bloc , try to wrap things up or offering better solution to some areas. The one thing I don't understand is why improving Morphic or even redesigning it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
I tried it a few times, and had nothing but problems with it. We have discussed here several times and from what I have learned there several technical limitation. I am using pharolauncher non stop and wonder why Pharolauncher is not integrated inside Pharo yet. I have added my code inside the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
predictor. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:19 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: if you read my mail, you will notice that I said BOTH are on the table (and we are actually moving oon both): - Bloc is the redesign - In the mean time we WORK and ENCOURAGE others to work

Re: [Pharo-dev] Google Code Shutdown

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
Another project abandoned by Google, what a surprise :D On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: In case anyone hasn't heard, Google Code will shut down entirely on January 25, 2016. I was following these Smalltalk projects there: magritte-metamodel

Re: [Pharo-dev] Which one to use? [WAS: Re: GLMBrick whats next?]

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
if you read my mail, you will notice that I said BOTH are on the table (and we are actually moving oon both): - Bloc is the redesign - In the mean time we WORK and ENCOURAGE others to work on improve it. Last time I asked about Bloc , I was told not to use it and instead stick with Spec or

Re: [Pharo-dev] Update question

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
@Kilon: Integrating PharoLauncher in the standard image would not make sense. Then I use PharoLauncher to download an image with a prepackaged PharoLauncher, ... If you mean that it should be the default tool to download when getting Pharo 4.0 or Pharo 3.0 from the download page or from

Re: [Pharo-dev] collecting Pharo 4.0 Contributors

2015-03-24 Thread kilon alios
I am Dimitris Chloupis, always a honor to contribute to such an awesome project like Pharo. I have not contributed bug fixes but I have contributed with a lot of documentation by porting 5 chapters of PBE to Pharo 3 and many video tutorials. You cant be a dead language and still the king of live

Re: [Pharo-dev] UI Workflows Are Like Snowflakes

2015-03-23 Thread kilon alios
. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a general guideline of GUI design that all tools would have to obey instead of giving complete freedom in creating a very

Re: [Pharo-dev] UI Workflows Are Like Snowflakes

2015-03-23 Thread kilon alios
It would be nice if there was a general guideline of GUI design that all tools would have to obey instead of giving complete freedom in creating a very fragmented experience. I think this will be necessary the more complex tools are integrated into Pharo.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color arithmetical operations are broken

2015-03-22 Thread kilon alios
wait a sec why Alpha affects the Color ? o_O Color white - (Color white alpha:0.5) = Color gray. What ? No ! This make no sense Color white - (Color white alpha:0) = Color white Ok reasonable Color white - (Color white alpha:1.0) = Color black. again reasonable On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Color arithmetical operations are broken

2015-03-22 Thread kilon alios
I personally assume to get Color transparent when subtract two absolutely equal colors. why ? that makes no sense to me. I guess we reason about things differently. In art black and white are not colors, they are called neutrals and they have the meaning of the existence of light (white) and non

Re: [Pharo-dev] update of pharo by example?

2015-03-21 Thread kilon alios
the main repo is here https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample There is a link for how to contribute in the README. I was added as a contributor, all the above projects are inside an organisation so once you added as a contributor to this orgainsation you can contribute

Re: [Pharo-dev] update of pharo by example?

2015-03-21 Thread kilon alios
And then the actual repo owners/contributors have a chance to comment on the change (with nice tools like you can comment on individual lines of code), and ask for corrections. (And then the author of the PR can make corrections, and they'll show up automatically in the pull request.) Then,

Re: [Pharo-dev] update of pharo by example?

2015-03-21 Thread kilon alios
I had pull request phobias, I saw a doctor and I am fine now with some medication. The important thing is that you guys contribute , how you do it , its up to you. For me not having to deal with pull requests is one less thing to worry about. If I had to use them , I would . I used them once to

Re: [Pharo-dev] update of pharo by example?

2015-03-21 Thread kilon alios
Great welcome on board Dmitri , by the way my real name is Dimitri too :) On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: Thanks, Stef, Kilon. I would like to contribute, actually. (I made a PR to the original PBE repo and the Updated PBE, linking the Readmes

Re: [Pharo-dev] update of pharo by example?

2015-03-21 Thread kilon alios
just sent you an invitation , should give you access to whole organization including all books. On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin dmi...@zagidulin.net wrote: Thanks, Stef, Kilon. I would like to contribute, actually. (I made a PR to the original PBE repo and the Updated PBE,

Re: [Pharo-dev] trying a hot update un smalltalkhub

2015-03-17 Thread kilon alios
Great work Esteban that JSON may come handy for building a front end of STHub inside Pharo , so the users wont have to open an internet browser to browser and download sthub projects. On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: ok, thank went more or less fine

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging red screen

2015-03-11 Thread kilon alios
I have seen that myself but I dont think it was NB , I think it was strikefonts and TTFs but that problem has been resolved since then. So its possible to get severe red box of doom. Fortunately it rarely happens and has happened to me 1-2 times. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Max Leske

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo code of conduct?

2015-03-10 Thread kilon alios
Well you could also rename ubuntu code of conduct to pissing against the wind to be more accurate. Since their biggest troll is Linus himself, the creator of Linux. And since they are not going to kick him out any time soon , such document is as pointless as it could ever be. Fortunately Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] new link to query all projects in smalltalkhub

2015-03-10 Thread kilon alios
AT LAST!!! Thank you Esteban :) On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Nice - by using a simple jquery plugin like http://www.datatables.net/ on the page this would have been browseable/searchable. But it is a good start. Thanks! Bye T. Gesendet:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN AthensSketch] A playground for drawings with Athens.

2015-03-06 Thread kilon alios
. But even more so I can eve see the frames in those animations flicker. Especially that pharo slide logo example, but also all others. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-03-06 18:40 GMT+01:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com: very good example and very

[Pharo-dev] Dead link to the bluebook

2015-03-06 Thread kilon alios
This link is dead http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/BlueBook/

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN AthensSketch] A playground for drawings with Athens.

2015-03-06 Thread kilon alios
at 4:38 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 07 Mar 2015, at 00:02, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-03-06 20:18 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 06 Mar 2015, at 18:40, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: very good example and very

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recording user actions in GTools

2015-02-27 Thread kilon alios
no objection from me, whatever help you guys improve the tools, helps me ;) On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Andrei Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In order to better understand how people use the GT tools we would like to integrate, before the Pharo code freeze, a small extension

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

2015-02-27 Thread kilon alios
I see , I did not realise there is so much negative about Pharo since most people dont seem to be aware of it and the moment they understand what it is they are impressed. At least people I introduced to Pharo. Me too. And the infrastructure is getting really really great. To be point that I

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

2015-02-27 Thread kilon alios
, profilers, Le 27/2/15 13:24, kilon alios a écrit : I can explain why, its the language you use. For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about. For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should be impressed with. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:12

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

2015-02-27 Thread kilon alios
, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:24, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: I can explain why, its the language you use. For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about. For people to be impressed first

Re: [Pharo-dev] The evil twin in 40516

2015-02-27 Thread kilon alios
I can explain why, its the language you use. For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about. For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should be impressed with. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens/Morphic

2015-02-23 Thread kilon alios
so that means now athens mix with morphic just fine without extra work , great work guys :) On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Load the new configuration of athens (2.9) Open an AthensWorld: AthensWrapWorldMorph new openInWorld Drag and drop some

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2015-02-08 Thread kilon alios
I disagree. I want to see the pragma. It has essential information that shouldn't be hidden. I want to edit it easily. And how can you in the one hand say it can be implemented as a normal message send a d at the same time want it hidden? Be consistent :-) I agree with you Eliot, I

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2015-02-07 Thread kilon alios
Personally I don't like Pragmas, they have not convinced me so far that they fit the style of Smalltalk syntax. I have to confess though I never liked descriptive elements and languages . About python decorators I disagree that are similar to pragmas. Pragmas are focused on being descriptive ,

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2015-02-07 Thread kilon alios
Kilon, pragmas are not limited to being descriptive. Ok , I went back and carefully read your posts. I did not noticed that pragmas are executable too, I stand corrected. It appears I underestimated Pragmas, after reading your posts I see where you going with this. Especially the part of adding

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2015-02-07 Thread kilon alios
tolerate pragmas and they do tolerate me :D On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-07 5:59 GMT-03:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com: Personally I don't like Pragmas, they have not convinced me so far that they fit the style of Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] Re: ||

2015-02-07 Thread kilon alios
And none of the XML and web technologies sell as much as Angry Birds and Candy Crash Saga :D I think you underestimate people. True Web is very popular, but lets not forget all the promises a decade ago that we will completely move to the cloud in a few years and we are still desktop all the way.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter exact match

2015-02-05 Thread kilon alios
+1 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Some feedback on spotter. I want to search for #doIt. It shows me five methods starting with doIt but it would be nicer if exact matches took priority. Alternatively, it would be okay if typing doitspace did an exact

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2015-02-05 Thread kilon alios
and efficiency are very important. But yes I am more orientated towards well designed workflow. Maybe this is why I still I love Amiga 500 :D On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-05 11:14 GMT+01:00 kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com

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2015-02-05 Thread kilon alios
And there is also the matter of hardware evolution. When I was running Pharo on my 2007 imac 20'' with dual core 2.GHZ , Morphic was slow. And by slow I mean that I could see it was struggling to move windows around. I could see windows flickering trying to render themselves moving around. But

Re: [Pharo-dev] How Stable is Pharo 4.0?

2015-02-04 Thread kilon alios
Well I would not just call it painless more like a very big improvement over Pharo 3. No strange bugs and abnormal behaviour so far , and I have been using it for more than a year. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Is anyone successfully using it for

Re: [Pharo-dev] Plague Doctor

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
easier if you give it a try! On 30 Jan 2015, at 12:57, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Bare in mind that using Copyrighted images without the permission of the author makes you liable to be sued. So what is Plague Doctor ? The smalltalkhub description does not help at all, what

Re: [Pharo-dev] Create window group for Playground

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
you dont watch my video tutorials ? ;D here is one for window groups https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGJZeajjWGUindex=12list=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof851ybh-_m_ I agree this one of the features that I really miss and I think I was the first one to report it in this least when Playground was

Re: [Pharo-dev] Create window group for Playground

2015-01-30 Thread kilon alios
personally I dont even understand why one would not want tabs, especially in such a heavy window orientated enviroment like Pharo. Sure if I better solution existed yes, but even in MacOS while mission control existed for quite some time (offers a bird eye view of opened windows) still Apple was

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello: Possible to detect updates in a Github repo ?

2015-01-28 Thread kilon alios
Thank you both, looks like this one will need some extra work from my part. I will have to postpone it for now because its not a a high priority as other things I planned but will definetly take a look at your pointers Dale and Serge links ASAP at least to get an idea about the direction I will be

[Pharo-dev] Metacello: Possible to detect updates in a Github repo ?

2015-01-27 Thread kilon alios
I was wondering how possible it is to check a github repo for new commits and compare it with the existing code to based on the Baseline loading of a Github repo to Pharo. Is it possible ? I want to make an updater for my project that will pop up a dialog to alert the user for new updates in my

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

2015-01-24 Thread kilon alios
I absolutely agree that incremental is the way to go, I am slow doer anyway ;) On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:26 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Le 19/1/15 22:21, kilon alios a écrit : Ok then I think the best way to do this is to start this in my own github account then give you guys

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED: improve Dark Theme

2015-01-23 Thread kilon alios
I think roassal can do that On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=385003 https://code.google.com/p/eclipse-svg-icons/ cool! now I have

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2015-01-19 until: 2015-01-31

2015-01-22 Thread kilon alios
great work, the Pharo documentation has been improving rapidly lately and this is great news for me and any newcomer to pharo. Will definetly take a look :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:39 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: - worked on Agile visualization. Several chapters have

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo-contribution CI out of space?

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
thanks Damien :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: kilon alios writes: you can remove my job a book I named Pharo Universe , I no longer need it, although it only contains the translated sound chapter which Stef has already copied

[Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
Hello people, I am really interested since PBE seems to go very well to now concentrate on a project I had in mind for some time and it is to start a book on Pharo Morphic. My plan is to add it to github group SquareBracketAssociates which I am member of for contributing to the new PBE. Is that

[Pharo-dev] Pharo books and Pharo website

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
In Twitter I saw earlier this week a link posted for all books of Pharo , some new ones too. Is it possible to have this link also in the Pharo website documentation section ? I think it will look very good for pharo to expose to newcomers all the hard work we are doing or have done with

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Pharo Morphic book

2015-01-19 Thread kilon alios
Ok then I think the best way to do this is to start this in my own github account then give you guys the link , review the documentation and if you find satisfying add it to SquareBracketAssociates via forking it, if not I can still continue it with my github account. Of course I will use pillar

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