Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-04 Thread Dennis Schetinin
There were an addon named DontModeMeIn for VisualWorks browser which I believe did the same thing. It was written by Vasilii Bykov and there was an article on it in his blog, but I can't find that blog in the new Cincom's site, and can't find that article in WaybackMachine either… The only

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-04 Thread Dennis Schetinin
Here's [ http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/publicRepository/VB-Sketch-DontModeMeIn.html] the description: An experimental tweak of the Refactoring Browser to support modeless editing. With this installed, it is possible to go to a different method or class within the same browser. while a method is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: agreed we should change that since years. Some days we should stop and fix all the glitches that give us these hiccups. ... and that day is around october, when we freeze pharo3 and start to fix bugs :) Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-04 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 4 September 2013 08:38, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 03.09.2013 um 15:07 schrieb Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com: this is most annoying to me, that UI interrupts you in very strange manner and asks you to make a decision: - accept, or discard the method, or cancel

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-04 Thread Igor Stasenko
Yes, systematical approach matters :) But as to me it is quite simple feature, and in right hands (pointing at Ben ;), it can be implemented quite easily. In Nautilus there as many features which has similar concepts (need to change browser's context) - like navigation history. I guess combining

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-04 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Doru wrote: I have a different opinion. This modality issue is not something we fix as a bug. Of course, we can put in place a patch that somehow makes it work in the current browser, but the core problem is a conceptual one. And that requires a redesign of the user interface. +1 And with the

[Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-03 Thread Igor Stasenko
this is most annoying to me, that UI interrupts you in very strange manner and asks you to make a decision: - accept, or discard the method, or cancel the action. often, you are in the middle of typing new stuff and source code can be even not syntactically correct.. so, you have to discard or

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-03 Thread kilon
I agree but I want to offer something slightly different. Remove the accept button/ command altogether. Anything that is typed by the user is automatically accepted , if user changes his mind he should be able to use undo/redo . Preferably create a history tool (dont know if changes could help

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-03 Thread btc
kilon wrote: I agree but I want to offer something slightly different. Remove the accept button/ command altogether. Anything that is typed by the user is automatically accepted , if user changes his mind he should be able to use undo/redo . Preferably create a history tool (dont know if changes

Re: [Pharo-dev] Switching context(s) in browser while method is not-yet accepted

2013-09-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
agreed we should change that since years. Some days we should stop and fix all the glitches that give us these hiccups. stef On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: this is most annoying to me, that UI interrupts you in very strange manner and asks you to make a