Re: [Pharo-dev] What will change in Pharo with Spur the new Cog memory manager ...

2014-02-06 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Ben, On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:19 AM, b...@openinworld.com wrote: Clément Bera wrote: Hello pharoers, The new Cog memory manager, Spur, is simply *amazing*. I saw at FOSDEM that some of you were interested in it, but unfortunately you were lacking information about it. I wrote a

Re: [Pharo-dev] What will change in Pharo with Spur the new Cog memory manager ...

2014-02-06 Thread Clément Bera
2014-02-06 20:34 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com: Thanks for this information. Great post. So larger images would be no problem? let's say growing to 900MB? I wouldn't say no problem, I would say that images up to 1 Gb should be usable and should behave much better

Re: [Pharo-dev] What will change in Pharo with Spur the new Cog memory manager ...

2014-02-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Sounds great!!! Alexandre Le 06-02-2014 à 11:48, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello pharoers, The new Cog memory manager, Spur, is simply *amazing*. I saw at FOSDEM that some of you were interested in it, but unfortunately you were lacking information about it. I

Re: [Pharo-dev] What will change in Pharo with Spur the new Cog memory manager ...

2014-02-06 Thread Luc Fabresse
Thanks Clement for the post and a big thank you to Eliot for Spur! Can't wait for pharo 4 running on Spur-based Cog ;-) Luc 2014-02-07 Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com: 2014-02-06 20:34 GMT+01:00 Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com : Thanks for this information. Great post.

[Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Benjamin
It is now showing all the packages. It is cool for when you want to make slices in expert mode (aka with no dirty packages) But is it the default use case? Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 15:26, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: It is now showing all the packages. It is cool for when you want to make slices in expert mode (aka with no dirty packages) But is it the default use case? It is very important: both Sven and Igor deem it as

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 16:02, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 21 Jan 2014, at 15:26, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: It is now showing all the packages. It is cool for when you want to make slices in expert mode (aka with no dirty packages) But is it

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Benjamin
21 Jan 2014, at 12:03, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: This will simplify *a lot* to make a Slice fro syncing with Spec, too. Can you expand please? Because I have only seen the UI change, but I do not see where it can help :) Thanks, Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:32, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: 21 Jan 2014, at 12:03, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: This will simplify *a lot* to make a Slice fro syncing with Spec, too. Can you expand please? Because I have only seen the UI change, but I do

[Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
… is not there anymore. And Magritte-Morph requires it :( my guess: I was another victim of Stef compulsion of giving us a better and cleaning system :) But it should be replaced by what? Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Marcus Denker
On 05 Jan 2014, at 11:30, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: … is not there anymore. And Magritte-Morph requires it :( my guess: I was another victim of Stef compulsion of giving us a better and cleaning system :) The thing was that it had no state nor behaviour different to

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 05 Jan 2014, at 11:33, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 05 Jan 2014, at 11:30, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: … is not there anymore. And Magritte-Morph requires it :( my guess: I was another victim of Stef compulsion of giving us a better and cleaning

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
MAElementRow was still depending on RectangleMorph. But it was more a problem of the #stable release: it was not updated. Esteban On 05 Jan 2014, at 11:42, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Esteban, I fixed this issue in Magritte-Morph a long time ago when we ported Moose to

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
and you added a baseline 3.2 but not a version (not cool, doru, not cool :) On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:07, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: MAElementRow was still depending on RectangleMorph. But it was more a problem of the #stable release: it was not updated. Esteban On 05 Jan

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Tudor Girba
I added a development version to point to the baseline :) Cheers, Doru On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: and you added a baseline 3.2 but not a version (not cool, doru, not cool :) On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:07, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
g one of this days we should write the “metacello compendium”, and create agreements in ways to do things :P On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I added a development version to point to the baseline :) Cheers, Doru On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:11 PM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
anyway, I added a 3.2 version, so I can reference it in my projects (is *really* not good to reference to a baseline of an external project in your own… that just leads to a lot of pain :) Esteban On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:42, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: g one of this

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: anyway, I added a 3.2 version, so I can reference it in my projects Thanks. (is *really* not good to reference to a baseline of an external project in your own… that just leads to a lot of pain :) Not

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: anyway, I added a 3.2 version, so I can reference it in my projects Thanks. (is *really* not good to reference to a baseline of an

Re: [Pharo-dev] what happened with RectangleMorph?

2014-01-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
g one of this days we should write the “metacello compendium”, and create agreements in ways to do things :P + 1 I would love to have a list of metacello patterns. Stef On 05 Jan 2014, at 12:41, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I added a development version to

Re: [Pharo-dev] what unload does?

2013-11-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx I will check. Stupidly I was thinking that unload was removing classes from the system. but (MCWorkingCopy forPackage: (MCPackage named: 'NautilusCommon')) unload. does not remove the classes from the system is it me or it was working? It seems to work for me… I get a

[Pharo-dev] what unload does?

2013-11-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Stupidly I was thinking that unload was removing classes from the system. but (MCWorkingCopy forPackage: (MCPackage named: 'NautilusCommon')) unload. does not remove the classes from the system is it me or it was working? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] what unload does?

2013-11-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On 24 Nov 2013, at 22:56, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Stupidly I was thinking that unload was removing classes from the system. but (MCWorkingCopy forPackage: (MCPackage named: 'NautilusCommon')) unload. does not remove the classes from the system is it me or it

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-06 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
El 04/10/2013 14:27, Camillo Bruni escribió: What is that class? No comments, two single methods on Object that refer to it? A WeakActionSequence is used as container for MessageSend's. It looks like is not even really weak, there is no weakSubclass: definition... You probably don't see

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-05 Thread Marcus Denker
On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: What is that class? No comments, two single methods on Object that refer to it? unknown… there are far too many event systems in the image… Marcus signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this related to the eventManager triggerEvent: in Object Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 5, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: What is that class? No comments, two single methods on Object that refer to it? unknown… there are far too many event systems in the image…

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-05 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Oct 5, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 5, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: What is that class? No comments, two single methods on Object

[Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-04 Thread Camillo Bruni
What is that class? No comments, two single methods on Object that refer to it? signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Oct 2013, at 19:27, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: What is that class? No comments, two single methods on Object that refer to it? If you remove it, the world as we know it will end ! Seriously, I've seen this before, I also asked the same question, but no one seems to

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is WeakActionSequence?

2013-10-04 Thread Clément Bera
This is a good question I was always wondering. I think it is related to event triggered in DependentFields of Object. It triggers several events. Weak because somehow there are weak event handled without weak references, probably due to the lack of ephemerons. (in some case the activation of the

[Pharo-dev] what is the trick to load Gofer Configuration in an image without Gofer?

2013-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the trick to load Gofer Configuration in an image without Gofer?

2013-10-02 Thread Pavel Krivanek
For the Pharo Kernel I firstly in one job download the latest versions of network packages and save it in a form of .st file. Then I load them to the shrinked image. Network packages: #('Zinc-Resource-Meta-Core' 'Zinc-Character-Encoding-Core' 'Network-Kernel' 'Network-MIME' 'Network-UUID'

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the trick to load Gofer Configuration in an image without Gofer?

2013-10-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx pavel I will look at Ring too. Because I want to see why it is not a nice layer. But I see because for packages there is probably a need to have it there. On Oct 2, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: For the Pharo Kernel I firstly in one job download the latest

[Pharo-dev] What is the replacement for CMD-F to find a class in nautilus? [EOM]

2013-09-08 Thread Tobias Pape
[subject said it all]. Best -Tobias

Re: [Pharo-dev] What is the replacement for CMD-F to find a class in nautilus? [EOM]

2013-09-08 Thread Erwan Douaille
cmd f c 2013/9/8 Tobias Pape das.li...@gmx.de [subject said it all]. Best -Tobias -- Best regards, Douaille Erwan douaille.er...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Aug 25, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 août 2013, at 19:20, Camillo Bruni wrote: We have now: String #asClass String #asClassIfAbsent: String #asClassIfPresent: I don't understand why we need this new way. Is it just to avoid calling

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: this was already discussed. With #asClass and relatives what you have is a better abstraction jut because you are decoupled of Smalltalk globals, it is not a big win now, but it open doors to better designs with

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I do not see why On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: this was already discussed. With #asClass and relatives what you have is a better abstraction jut because you are

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 26.08.2013 um 10:56 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On Aug 25, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 août 2013, at 19:20, Camillo Bruni wrote: We have now: String #asClass String #asClassIfAbsent: String #asClassIfPresent:

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-08-26, at 11:46, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 26.08.2013 um 10:56 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On Aug 25, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 août 2013, at 19:20, Camillo Bruni wrote: We have now:

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
It works the same way as the dictionary protocol with #at: `#adsfasdf asClass` will signal an error, hence for compatibility you have the *IfAbsent: protocols. Otherwise you simply cannot replace all the users of `Smalltalk at:` and `Smalltalk globals at:` which is the long term goal.

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Camille Teruel
On 26 août 2013, at 10:56, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: On Aug 25, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 août 2013, at 19:20, Camillo Bruni wrote: We have now: String #asClass String #asClassIfAbsent: String #asClassIfPresent: I don't understand

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Igor Stasenko
the intent was to replace Smalltalk at: Smalltalk globals at: idioms with shorter one, and get rid of referencing Smalltalk global. The are not for solving future problems with introduction of environments. And even if you introduce them, i still think you need a way to refer to globals (they are

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Camille Teruel
On 26 août 2013, at 13:31, Igor Stasenko wrote: the intent was to replace Smalltalk at: Smalltalk globals at: idioms with shorter one, and get rid of referencing Smalltalk global. The are not for solving future problems with introduction of environments. We want to get rid of Smalltalk

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 26 August 2013 14:34, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 août 2013, at 13:31, Igor Stasenko wrote: the intent was to replace Smalltalk at: Smalltalk globals at: idioms with shorter one, and get rid of referencing Smalltalk global. The are not for solving future

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread p...@highoctane.be
... and Smalltalk should be renamed into Pharo anyway. :-p Phil On Monday, August 26, 2013, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 August 2013 14:34, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 août 2013, at 13:31, Igor Stasenko wrote: the intent was to replace

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Camillo Bruni
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10583/Use-System-instead-of-Smalltalk-to-access-globals On 2013-08-26, at 15:54, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: ... and Smalltalk should be renamed into Pharo anyway. :-p Phil On Monday, August 26, 2013, Igor Stasenko

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 26, 2013, at 3:54 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: ... and Smalltalk should be renamed into Pharo anyway. :-p :) Camillo already wants systems. Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-26 Thread Camille Teruel
On 26 août 2013, at 15:04, Igor Stasenko wrote: On 26 August 2013 14:34, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 août 2013, at 13:31, Igor Stasenko wrote: the intent was to replace Smalltalk at: Smalltalk globals at: idioms with shorter one, and get rid of

[Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Is it asClass? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-24 Thread Camillo Bruni
We have now: String #asClass String #asClassIfAbsent: String #asClassIfPresent: On 2013-08-24, at 17:55, Fernando Olivero fernando.oliv...@usi.ch wrote: I prefer to evaluate Smalltalk globals classNamed: #MyClass Fernando On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] what is the new way to do Smalltalk at: #MyClass?

2013-08-24 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 24, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: We have now: String #asClass String #asClassIfAbsent: String #asClassIfPresent: Ok I found them. I was working in an older image What was strange is that he method finder did not find it when I did #Point . Point

[Pharo-dev] What about removing Quadrangle?

2013-08-15 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Is there anybody using this class? Stef

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