Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-04-01 Thread Stephan Eggermont
François wrote: I don't really care what they look like but if there is a way to exend this area with a plugin or completely remove it from the layout, the one posting how to do it will get a beer/coffee in Cambridge this summer. Ah, that’s easy. There is only one sender of

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-30 Thread Sebastian Sastre
I must confess that I never use those buttons but yours doesn’t look broken so, yes: +1 On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I like the buttons but the interface image can be confusing (not just mean “interface” in java, but we use a slightly modified version for mark traits). Also in color it looks like too strong for me. Using the gray version as suggested before in the thread can be a good solution (even if it

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-30 Thread François Stephany
Same for me, I never use them. I don't really care what they look like but if there is a way to exend this area with a plugin or completely remove it from the layout, the one posting how to do it will get a beer/coffee in Cambridge this summer. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Sebastian Sastre

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-30 Thread Benjamin
It was supposed to be a plugin at the beginning, then some laziness happened, and it is not a plugin (yet) :) It also adds a lot of complexity in the morphic layout to manage this, but it’s doable :) Ben On 30 Mar 2014, at 21:29, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: Same for me,

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-29 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 Mar 2014, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Really? What was wrong with the old one? They look 70' :) And the B button misses a butt :) Ah, yet another effect of introducing

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-29 Thread Stephan Eggermont
I’m a bit confused here. I get the impression that people are reacting here on the old buttons, not the current ones. At least in the issue comments Phil is, and I got the impression Torsten is too. Please be clear in your comments where you are referring to. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
It looks nice but I don't think there are right because they are not really informative. Color scheme is strange why purple and green? Then byte code is not really bits. The old ones are just more informative althought not as nice. Hilaire Le 28/03/2014 17:57, Benjamin a écrit : Hello guys,

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-29 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Le 29/03/2014 10:08, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : Ah, yet another effect of introducing a new compiler without decompiling abilities... Ouch! -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Nice. To make them perfect - The I and C are too dominant. Perhaps have the c use the green from ’tricky asserting’ and the I a bit more pastel? Something that looks a bit more washed out like the theme? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Torsten Bergmann
hi Benjamin,   I really like them better than the current UI mess regarding the right toolbar in Nautilus and would like to see them changed before for the release. But the I icon means (Java) interface in Eclipse and the button in Pharo is for instance variables.  The C icon means (Java) class

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Benjamin
On 28 Mar 2014, at 18:24, MartinW w...@fastmail.fm wrote: Just out of curiosity (this is not a rhetoric question, i just don't know it) - when should i look at the byte code? That’s a good question :) I usually look at byte code when I have strange compilation errors. And are there enough

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread MartinW
Just out of curiosity (this is not a rhetoric question, i just don't know it) - when should i look at the bytecode? And are there enough use cases to justify such a very prominent place in the UI? Or would a place in the context menu be enough? Or a plugin, if there are people - like compiler

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Beautiful. Thank you ! But how dare you propose a change, please stop contributing, I hate people who actually do stuff ;-) On 28 Mar 2014, at 17:57, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Benjamin
On 28 Mar 2014, at 19:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Beautiful. Thank you ! Thanks :) But how dare you propose a change, please stop contributing, I hate people who actually do stuff ;-) The question is not about people doing things, it’s about introducing things that are

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Mar 2014, at 19:35, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: But how dare you propose a change, please stop contributing, I hate people who actually do stuff ;-) The question is not about people doing things, it’s about introducing things that are not fixes or critical.

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Benjamin wrote since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Would you be so kind to explain what you do not like about them, and compare to both the earlier ones and this

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Benjamin
On 28 Mar 2014, at 23:16, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Really? What was wrong with the old one? They look 70’ :) And the B button misses a butt :) Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Nautilus side bar buttons

2014-03-28 Thread Pharo4Stef
On 28 Mar 2014, at 17:57, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys, since I do not really like the new buttons introduced in Nautilus, and since the previous one were broken, I propose this new set of buttons based on the eclipse theme. Nautilus new buttons.png