Re: [Pharo-dev] DSM in Roassal

2013-09-02 Thread Volkert Barr
Dear Alexandre, which Pharo and Roassal Version? I am loading the packages in Pharo 2.0 (Summer), but the examples did not work (ROLabel class(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #verticalText). Gofer new squeaksource: 'Roassal'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal'; load.

Re: [Pharo-dev] DSM in Roassal

2013-09-02 Thread Volkert Barr
No source code analyse. The information is about our application landscape and the data comes from from different data sources (as CSV-Files). I am using Pharo 2.0 with Roassal, NeoCSV ... On 02.09.2013, at 07:52, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: there is a DSM support in

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-09-02 until: 2013-09-15

2013-09-02 Thread Guillermo Polito
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:00 AM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter!

[Pharo-dev] Yet another Blog on Pharo

2013-09-02 Thread Fernando Olivero
Hi, if you're interested in learning more about the graphical infrastructure of our beloved Smaltalk system, you can read the following blog: http://fernandoolivero.wordpress.com I'll be writing about the fixes, enhancements and cleanups I'll be performing in the context of my post-doc @ RMoD

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thanks for the configuration Browser :)

2013-09-02 Thread Goubier Thierry
You just need a single user of Smacc in Pharo2 for that :) Thierry Le 30/08/2013 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : and for the configurations that are up to date… In 3 min I could load Smacc in Pharo2.0 Stef -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30363

2013-09-02 Thread Marcus Denker
30363 - 11468 Use singleton for default FileSystem https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11468 11498 Be able to set an initial filter in ListDialogWindow https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11498 Diff information:

[Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Goubier Thierry
Hi, sometimes during the summer, a method used by OSProcess to determine the OS Platform has been deprecated in Pharo 3.0. Is it possible to have a look into updating OSProcess? I'm still unable to use Pharo3.0 because of issue 11102, but I'd like to get gitfiletree to work on it, and I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Job use SystemAnnouncer?

2013-09-02 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Stef wrote: did you notice a different between SystemAnnouncer and replacing it by another one? Yes, it made a significant difference. It did not remove enough overhead though. Jobvalue: was called over 100K times, doing that only every 100 increments helped enough. JobjobAnnouncer

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thanks for the configuration Browser :)

2013-09-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: You just need a single user of Smacc in Pharo2 for that :) thanks for the maintenance of Smacc :) Thierry Le 30/08/2013 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : and for the configurations that are up to date… In 3 min

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Job use SystemAnnouncer?

2013-09-02 Thread Stephan Eggermont
And for 3.0 Issue 11520 Kernel-StephanEggermont.1588.mcz Morphic-Base-StephanEggermont.85.mcz

[Pharo-dev] Smacc question

2013-09-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi thierry I imported the generated parsers (a student did a while ago on VW using Smacc). The generated parser parse apparently the tests. Now when I regenerate the parser with Pharo I cannot get the Smacc compuling the parser. I get a SmaCCParserError: Token not expected do you have any idea

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smacc question

2013-09-02 Thread Goubier Thierry
Hi Stef, I don't see unsupported syntax, just missing quotes around some tokens, such as ** should be **, + should be + in binary_adding_operator, etc... BOOLEAN is probably BOOLEAN Are you sure that the text you're joining isn't unquoted? It's hard to requote everything as it should be, and

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 02/09/2013 12:02, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : ok I read the big thread and what would be a solution? Updating OSProcess? It's just that the code which does the platform selection is already quite interesting due to platform differences, and I'm not sure how I should update it for

[Pharo-dev] Aida 6.6 OneClicks for Pharo now ready

2013-09-02 Thread Janko Mivšek
Dear Pharoers, OneClicks for Mac, Win and Linux are now prepared from three Pharo 2.0 distros. I checked Linux and Win, but for Mac I'm not sure if I prepared distribution correctly. Can someone check it? All three OneClicks are available at http://www.aidaweb.si/download . Best regards Janko

Re: [Pharo-dev] Aida 6.6 OneClicks for Pharo now ready

2013-09-02 Thread Janko Mivšek
Dne 02. 09. 2013 13:33, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: On 02 Sep 2013, at 13:27, Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si wrote: Dear Pharoers, OneClicks for Mac, Win and Linux are now prepared from three Pharo 2.0 distros. I checked Linux and Win, but for Mac I'm not sure if I prepared

Re: [Pharo-dev] Aida 6.6 OneClicks for Pharo now ready

2013-09-02 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
It seems SpFilename is not ported to FileSystem, it still references FileDirectory which is gone. I know, its a pain. FileResourceTests and some Swazoo tests hence fail with an error. I was looking for the Geolocation support, but can't seem to find it. Where should I look ? On 02 Sep 2013,

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Goubier Thierry
Stef, a question then: how to check that I am on a pharo3 image which is newer than 2013-07-22 (since this is the date where the OSPlatform methods have been deprecated) ? If I write something like (Smalltalk version beginsWith: 'Pharo3') ifTrue: [ ^ Smalltalk os

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30363

2013-09-02 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30363 - 11468 Use singleton for default FileSystem https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11468 This change seems to have problems under windows, the build does not terminate and thus was automatically

Re: [Pharo-dev] Yet another Blog on Pharo

2013-09-02 Thread p...@highoctane.be
nice look which reads very well on mobile phones! phil On Monday, September 2, 2013, Fernando Olivero fernando.olivero.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, if you're interested in learning more about the graphical infrastructure of our beloved Smaltalk system, you can read the following blog:

Re: [Pharo-dev] self foo: (var := …) vs var := …. self foo: var

2013-09-02 Thread Luc Fabresse
2013/9/2 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Alex from a style point of view I found really ugly to use the side effect value. I tend to think that they return #undefined as in Scheme. yes but it would be nice if := were a message send and in that case it would make sense to write

Re: [Pharo-dev] Aida 6.6 OneClicks for Pharo now ready, about geolocation

2013-09-02 Thread Janko Mivšek
Dne 02. 09. 2013 14:09, piše Sven Van Caekenberghe: It seems SpFilename is not ported to FileSystem, it still references FileDirectory which is gone. I know, its a pain. Aida doesn't need filesystem support, that's why current Sport works ok, even that its tests fail. I suppose quick solution

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smacc question

2013-09-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I will check because may be the author of the code committed code that does not compile on VW either. Thanks for your hints. stef On Sep 2, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Hi Stef, I don't see unsupported syntax, just missing quotes around some tokens, such

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
what we could do is to not deprecate now the methods? Then we can deprecate them when we release 3.0 Stef On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Stef, a question then: how to check that I am on a pharo3 image which is newer than 2013-07-22 (since this

[Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30363

2013-09-02 Thread Marcus Denker
30363 - 11524 MessageBrowser new protocol method https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11524 11523 SystemNavigation small refactoring https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11523 11498 Be able to set an initial filter in ListDialogWindow

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Goubier Thierry
Le 02/09/2013 16:07, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : what we could do is to not deprecate now the methods? Then we can deprecate them when we release 3.0 When starting pharo4? That would be perfect :) I just noticed that Smalltalk os exist in 1.4 and 2.0. So my code should work on an old image,

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 2 September 2013 16:41, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: Le 02/09/2013 16:07, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : what we could do is to not deprecate now the methods? Then we can deprecate them when we release 3.0 When starting pharo4? That would be perfect :) I just noticed

Re: [Pharo-dev] self foo: (var := …) vs var := …. self foo: var

2013-09-02 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 2 September 2013 14:32, Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/9/2 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Alex from a style point of view I found really ugly to use the side effect value. I tend to think that they return #undefined as in Scheme. yes but it would be

Re: [Pharo-dev] OSProcess for Pharo3.0

2013-09-02 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-09-02, at 11:07, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: what we could do is to not deprecate now the methods? Then we can deprecate them when we release 3.0 I would say the exact opposite, deprecate methods as early as possible If I deprecate a method now, - it is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Job use SystemAnnouncer?

2013-09-02 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-09-02, at 06:25, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Stef wrote: did you notice a different between SystemAnnouncer and replacing it by another one? Yes, it made a significant difference. It did not remove enough overhead though. Jobvalue: was called over 100K times,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Suggestion about Spec

2013-09-02 Thread Benjamin
I usually try to do so :) Maybe it was 4am, or maybe it collides with Morphic API :) Anyway, it should be more consistent Ben On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Erwan Douaille douailleer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm working on the UIPainter importer. I'm able to import already existing spec

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smacc question

2013-09-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
apparently the fileout 30 in VW corrupts the image and I got many strange definitions so I'm checking Stef On Sep 2, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi thierry I imported the generated parsers (a student did a while ago on VW using Smacc). The

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Job use SystemAnnouncer?

2013-09-02 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-09-02, at 18:24, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Camillo wrote: the main problem with the current progress bar morph design is that updates are forced whenever the underlying model (here job) changes. This is *very* costly for high-frequency updates, which is exactly

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win32 Console support

2013-09-02 Thread Camillo Bruni
nice :) On 2013-09-02, at 18:34, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: I played with NativeBoost and the Windows API again this evening with the result to be able to open a native Win32 console window, influence title and colors and write to it from Pharo. This can be useful for coral

Re: [Pharo-dev] Win32 Console support

2013-09-02 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
is very nice :) but... a bit of criticism (and probably ignorant criticism :P) why those methods names? sets, gets. colored, colorgreen... instead pharoish names? Cheers, Esteban On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: I played with NativeBoost and the Windows

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires

2013-09-02 Thread Gisela Decuzzi
Great! The idea is to spend the full day? Or do you have any planed time? 2013/9/2 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com I spend a month in Buenos Aires working together with Guido Chari @ the UBA, we take this opportunity to organize a Pharo sprint outside France ;) We are in early

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30363

2013-09-02 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-09-02, at 12:24, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-09-02, at 06:07, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30363 - 11468 Use singleton for default FileSystem https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11468 I'll take care of it later today as usual... more