On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 03:03:53PM -0700, blake wrote:
> Chris,
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Chris Muller wrote:
>
> > Date today mmdd. "prints '2013-10-30'"
> >
> >
> I don't want the separator.
>
Date today mmdd copyWithoutAll: '-'
ah, yes , there's also examples in
Athens-Examples package.
On 31 October 2013 01:30, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
> On 30 October 2013 23:02, kilon alios wrote:
>
>> well I just asked if there is any kind of Documentation about Athens . Or
>> should I just read the code and ask questions ?
>>
>>
>
On 30 October 2013 23:02, kilon alios wrote:
> well I just asked if there is any kind of Documentation about Athens . Or
> should I just read the code and ask questions ?
>
>
the main source of documentation right now is class comments
and tutorial.
I've spent quite of a time commenting the centr
>>Date today printFormat: #(3 2 1 0 1 1 2)
Wait, that's what I was trying for, initially (although it's not
super-clear). I did not get that I could use 0 (or apparently a bunch of
other characters) as a separator. I didn't see this code at the bottom of
printOn:format:
(formatArray at: 4) ~= 0
On 30 Oct 2013, at 22:46, Nicolas Cellier
wrote:
> Why not a more discriminating example, like '19991231’?
From the class comment:
…
You instanciate me by specifying the textual format by example, based on a
#reference timetamp.
Each component of the example representation is numbered from
Good to know, thanks. That looks cool.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> Hi Blake,
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:55, blake wrote:
>
> > Heya, guys--
> >
> > Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program
> does is write a file out by date. The
>>Why not "%04d%02d%02d" % [d.year, d.month, d.day] ?
Probably because I'm not super-comfortable with all of Ruby's many, many,
many features.
>>Chris has already given a near solution. You just need to "select:
#isDigit" on the end of his answer to get exactly what you want.<<
I figured there w
Chris,
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Chris Muller wrote:
> Date today mmdd. "prints '2013-10-30'"
>
>
I don't want the separator.
===Blake===
Here are the slides:
http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/smalltalks13-pharo-techoverview
I think it didn't went so bad... :)
Esteban
well I just asked if there is any kind of Documentation about Athens . Or
should I just read the code and ask questions ?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> i hope you satisfied with my answer.
> you welcome to ask more, if you not :)
>
>
> On 30 October 2013 22:32, dimitr
hehehe sorry, it was #hackBits: :)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Max Leske wrote:
> Where did you find that method? I couldn’t find any implementors or
> references…
>
> On 30.10.2013, at 21:42, Mariano Martinez Peck
> wrote:
>
> BTWit is time to move the hashBits: to a more general cla
On 2013-10-30, at 22:36, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> I don't think there's something to fix.
> You cannot 'extend' classes belonging to other package in any other way
> than adding extension methods.
> Allowing extension of ivars or any other vars by foreign package
> is road to nowhere.
>
> I would
i hope you satisfied with my answer.
you welcome to ask more, if you not :)
On 30 October 2013 22:32, dimitris chloupis wrote:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19694197/how-to-create-lines-with-athens
>
--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:51, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Well were are the books you wrote with this wonderful format?
> The only guy I can consider is sven. Why because he is writing real
> documentation.
> Now I'm confident that sevn could write in pier syntax because this is really
> close to m
Why not a more discriminating example, like '19991231'?
2013/10/30 Sven Van Caekenberghe
> Hi Blake,
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:55, blake wrote:
>
> > Heya, guys--
> >
> > Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program
> does is write a file out by date. The format is "y
On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:49, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I have nothing against pier syntax. But imagine person coming from outside,
>> who used markdown to ask questions on stack overflow and write readmes on
>> github, and here he has to use a different syntax for the same purpose. Just
Hi Blake,
On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:55, blake wrote:
> Heya, guys--
>
> Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program does
> is write a file out by date. The format is "mmdd" (which is my preferred
> naming convention). In Ruby I have:
>
> "%04d" % d.year + "%02d" %
On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:48, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> markdown misses a lot of features we need to write a book as you
>>> highlight in your next point. So I don't understand your question :-)
>>
>> If you want to write a comment and display it in Amber I don’t see why
>> people have
I don't think there's something to fix.
You cannot 'extend' classes belonging to other package in any other way
than adding extension methods.
Allowing extension of ivars or any other vars by foreign package
is road to nowhere.
I would not like if shape of my kernel classes depends on what package
Or:
Date today printFormat: #(3 2 1 0 1 1 2)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:
> On 30 October 2013 20:55, blake wrote:
> > Heya, guys--
> >
> > Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program
> does
> > is write a file out by date. The format is "yyy
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19694197/how-to-create-lines-with-athens
On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:44, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>
>> This makes sense. But I have 2 opinions:
>>
>> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
>
> because we will have to patch it anyway because it is uncomplete (m
On 30 October 2013 20:55, blake wrote:
> Heya, guys--
>
> Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program does
> is write a file out by date. The format is "mmdd" (which is my preferred
> naming convention). In Ruby I have:
>
> "%04d" % d.year + "%02d" % d.month + "%02d"
Date today mmdd. "prints '2013-10-30'"
:)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM, blake wrote:
> Heya, guys--
>
> Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program does
> is write a file out by date. The format is "mmdd" (which is my preferred
> naming convention). In
Heya, guys--
Converting a Ruby program to Pharo, and one of the things this program does
is write a file out by date. The format is "mmdd" (which is my
preferred naming convention). In Ruby I have:
"%04d" % d.year + "%02d" % d.month + "%02d" % d.day
In Smalltalk, the closest I can seem to ge
Where did you find that method? I couldn’t find any implementors or references…
On 30.10.2013, at 21:42, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> BTWit is time to move the hashBits: to a more general classbut the
> question is where?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
>
Well were are the books you wrote with this wonderful format?
The only guy I can consider is sven. Why because he is writing real
documentation.
Now I'm confident that sevn could write in pier syntax because this is really
close to markdown.
What is missing is the immediate rendering of pier syn
>>
>
> I have nothing against pier syntax. But imagine person coming from outside,
> who used markdown to ask questions on stack overflow and write readmes on
> github, and here he has to use a different syntax for the same purpose. Just
> a thought about bringing new people into a community :
>>
>>
>> markdown misses a lot of features we need to write a book as you
>> highlight in your next point. So I don't understand your question :-)
>
> If you want to write a comment and display it in Amber I don’t see why people
> have to learn a new markup language when there is markdown.
Bec
On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> This makes sense. But I have 2 opinions:
>
> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
because we will have to patch it anyway because it is uncomplete (missing
features for making decent book).
> 2) When I think about
On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:15, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 20:09, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>
> I’m not looking for simplicity, I’m looking for a good final product.
> ePub shouldn’t be simpler, it’s just made for eBooks.
> On the other hand there are editors with
BTWit is time to move the hashBits: to a more general classbut the
question is where?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Fuel was using BitBlt current and I change that to BitBlt
>
> Stef
>
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Max Leske wrote:
>
> > Stef, what exactl
On 2013-10-30, at 21:15, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 20:09, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>
> I’m not looking for simplicity, I’m looking for a good final product.
> ePub shouldn’t be simpler, it’s just made for eBooks.
> On the other hand there are editors with W
Fuel was using BitBlt current and I change that to BitBlt
Stef
On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Max Leske wrote:
> Stef, what exactly is the influence on Fuel? I looked at the changes of your
> slice and couldn’t find anything…
>
> Max
>
>
> On 25.10.2013, at 16:26, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
On 30 Oct 2013, at 20:09, Camillo Bruni wrote:
I’m not looking for simplicity, I’m looking for a good final product. ePub
shouldn’t be simpler, it’s just made for eBooks.
On the other hand there are editors with WYSIWYG support
like:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K2Q-tdVbPRI/UI
nay step documenting the system from its inside is good.
>
> - leave only the one clues that is currently used
> - write down the syntax that is provided
> - then one can think about what is odd and what is missing
> - improve parser if needed
>>
>>
>>> Things got updated:
>>>
>>> The tracker job
>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0-Update-Step-1-Tracker/ has
>>> now a version number check + the recent pharo version allows the #update
>>> command line handler
>>> to detect if wrong update files were specified. Together with S
On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Philippe Marschall
wrote:
> On 26.10.13 14:21, Sebastian Sastre wrote:
>> 10 hours later we're still down...
>
> Calls for blog post [1] ;-)
>
> [1] https://github.com/blog/1346-network-problems-last-friday
I'm quite sure that we we get 5% of the money of github
>>> I’m not looking for simplicity, I’m looking for a good final product. ePub
>>> shouldn’t be simpler, it’s just made for eBooks.
>>> On the other hand there are editors with WYSIWYG support
>>> like:http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K2Q-tdVbPRI/UI08v7LhzHI/ABY/vZ5LHjM6nb4/s1600/Screen+Shot+20
On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:36, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:24, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>
>>
>> On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:22, Damien Cassou wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown
On 30 Oct 2013, at 19:24, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:22, Damien Cassou wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>>> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
>>
>>
>> markdown misses a lot of features we need to write a boo
Hi All,
I remember encountering the same problem somewhere and we fastly solved it
using a preLoadDoit (I do not remember the exact name now) method of the
ConfigurationOfOurProject in which we tested if the iv was there and if not
added it.
Cheers,
#Luc
2013/10/30 Stéphane Ducasse
> Note t
On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:22, Damien Cassou wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
>
>
> markdown misses a lot of features we need to write a book as you
> highlight in your next point. So I don't understan
Note that this is quite bad (and limit of MC) because it means that the people
are forced to copy the package, do the modification
and publish and do that each time the mother package will change.
Stef
On Oct 30, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Ok in fact
> Gisela forked the AST-
Ok in fact
Gisela forked the AST-Core package to be able to load a new version with the
instance variables.
Because there is no way to say that a class definition modification is attached
to a given package.
Stef
> Apparently the problem is that gisela is adding instance variable to a class
>
On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/2013smalltalksconference-pharo-is-yours
>
> Stef
It is amazing how much has been achieved, especially in recent months in 3.0
Non-linear acceleration.
Self-enforcing feedback loop.
Sven
Apparently the problem is that gisela is adding instance variable to a class
that is not in the Flamel package.
So it was working before but not anymore.
Stef
> Hi guys
>
> we are losing instance variables addition when loading a package.
> Here is the example:
>
> Gofer new
>
Hi guys
we are losing instance variables addition when loading a package.
Here is the example:
Gofer new
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/gisela/Flamel/main';
version: 'Flamel-GiselaDecuzzi.94';
load
Normally RBProgramNode should have th
a minor correction , its not "get an impact" its "have an impact". Great slides
, I would love to see the video accompanying the slides . Its really surprising
how many new projects Pharo has brought forward. And so many things to look
forward to. Keep up the great work and keep motivating us :)
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
markdown misses a lot of features we need to write a book as you
highlight in your next point. So I don't understand your question :-)
> 2) When I think about the book I thin
i got the message :)
On 30 October 2013 16:22, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/2013smalltalksconference-pharo-is-yours
>
> Stef
>
--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
On 2013-10-30, at 17:53, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> This makes sense. But I have 2 opinions:
>
> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
I burnt my fingers already on markdown :), so the major problem is that we do
not
have a complete parser yet. The current version is som
This makes sense. But I have 2 opinions:
1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
2) When I think about the book I think about something nice. I don’t think that
markdown is good for books. That’s exactly what I encountered. I wanted to
start with this updated version of R
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
> Why do we need Pier-Gutenberg? Why can’t we gust use ePub for example?
We need a simple text based syntax (like for wiki) to write
documentation fast (e.g., books, class comments, method comments). I
don't know ePub, but it looks a lot like
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> Gutemberg is an addon for Pier CMS to write a book in Pier syntax.
> It can convert into PDF. Details here:
soon Gutemberg will be indepent of Pier and only dependent on Pier
syntax and parser (code name 'Pillar') :
http://www.smalltalkh
On 30 Oct 2013, at 14:06, Max Leske wrote:
> To continue the discussion on this topic (stemming from issue 11635) I’m
> starting a new thread. Please share your thoughts.
>
> Form the other thread:
>
>> Personally I'm for more intention revealing selectors; I quite like
>> #shuffled and #shu
http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/2013smalltalksconference-pharo-is-yours
Stef
Max Leske wrote:
To continue the discussion on this topic (stemming from issue 11635) I’m starting a new thread. Please share your thoughts.
Form the other thread:
Personally I'm for more intention revealing selectors; I quite like #shuffled and #shuffleInPlace. If we can agree o
On 2013-10-30, at 16:04, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 15:09, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>
>> Failing Tests
>> -
>> Seems like our test splitup did not work properly:
>>
>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0/
>>
>> The tests starting with A-L did not run since a whi
Yes. That are probably all the links I could suggest.
Also I have a question for a community:
Why do we need Pier-Gutenberg? Why can’t we gust use ePub for example?
Uko
On 30 Oct 2013, at 15:36, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> Yes, OK - meanwhile I found out. For the records:
>
> Gutemberg is an a
On 30 Oct 2013, at 15:09, Camillo Bruni wrote:
> Failing Tests
> -
> Seems like our test splitup did not work properly:
>
> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0/
>
> The tests starting with A-L did not run since a while!
>
But I always checked and even waited for them to finis
Yes, OK - meanwhile I found out. For the records:
Gutemberg is an addon for Pier CMS to write a book in Pier syntax.
It can convert into PDF. Details here:
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/
[2] http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~DamienCassou/Pier-Gutemberg
[3] htt
Failing Tests
-
Seems like our test splitup did not work properly:
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-3.0/
The tests starting with A-L did not run since a while!
From what I get quite a bunch of tests are failing.
Pending Processes + Default Username
-
You are talking about Pier-Gutenberg? A thing for books?
On 30 Oct 2013, at 14:37, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> Gutenberg - how to use it? How to install, how is the process...
> Any links?
>
> thx
> T.
>
thanks for the details
On 2013-10-30, at 14:39, Clément Bera wrote:
> I tried. Got Error #500 error :Empty or too short HTTP message: ''
> I think this is due to yesterday maintenance.
> It will be fixed soon.
>
> For further informations, mails from the CI guys (both sent yesterday):
>
> mai
I tried. Got *Error #500* error :Empty or too short HTTP message: ''
I think this is due to yesterday maintenance.
It will be fixed soon.
For further informations, mails from the CI guys (both sent yesterday):
mail1
Dear users,
A maintenance has to be performed on the network hardware of the Cl
Gutenberg - how to use it? How to install, how is the process...
Any links?
thx
T.
On 30 October 2013 13:49, Camillo Bruni wrote:
> Could someone else try rebooting all our jenkins instances including all
> slaves?
> - host name resolving is horribly slow on all slaves, the only thing that
> helps is rebooting
> - windows slaves are all down due to CI issue (being addressed by
To continue the discussion on this topic (stemming from issue 11635) I’m
starting a new thread. Please share your thoughts.
From the other thread:
> Also open for discussion is the use of Collection>>randomForPicking and
> Collection>>mutexForPicking in other methods (such as #atRandom). I thin
To continue the discussion on this topic (stemming from issue 11635) I’m
starting a new thread. Please share your thoughts.
Form the other thread:
> Personally I'm for more intention revealing selectors; I quite like #shuffled
> and #shuffleInPlace. If we can agree on a different naming scheme
Name:
SLICE-Issue-11635-Race-condition-in-SequenceableCollectionshuffle-MaxLeske.2
Author: MaxLeske
Time: 30 October 2013, 1:41:57.198092 pm
UUID: c3d51645-7e81-4997-b74c-545bf7ef60b0
Ancestors:
Dependencies: Collections-Abstract-MaxLeske.231,
Collections-Unordered-MaxLeske.175
made changes as
Could someone else try rebooting all our jenkins instances including all slaves?
- host name resolving is horribly slow on all slaves, the only thing that helps
is rebooting
- windows slaves are all down due to CI issue (being addressed by the CI
maintainers)
- I don't have access to the CI admin
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Yes. Right away.
>
> Could anyone please move the build job to run on Pharo 3.0?
>
That should be too difficult with zero-conf scripts for Pharo 3.0.
I can do it.
I'd like to keep the 4.9 job in the jenkins for a few days until downstream
pr
Yes. Right away.
Could anyone please move the build job to run on Pharo 3.0?
Doru
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Andrei Chis wrote:
> Super.
> So this means we finally more to Pharo 3?
>
> Andrei
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> We are happy to announce versio
Super.
So this means we finally more to Pharo 3?
Andrei
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
> We are happy to announce version 4.9 of the Moose Suite:
> http://moosetechnology.org/download/4.9
>
>
> This is a minor release still based on Pharo 2.0. The differences from
> Moose
For all of you who use VirtualBox on OS X with host-only interfaces:
VirtualBox on Mavericks will prevent the OS from shutting down if you have
host-only interfaces configured (and will clutter your dock with VirtualBox
icons…). You may use the attached bash script to fix the symptoms (there’s n
We are happy to announce version 4.9 of the Moose Suite:
http://moosetechnology.org/download/4.9
This is a minor release still based on Pharo 2.0. The differences from
Moose 4.8 are:
The Mondrian engine was removed. The transition to Roassal is now complete.
- Small fixes in Roassal layouts and
Is this error happening because my user is neither an Admin nor a Slave Admin
and therefore I cannot create jobs?
Thanks
Paul
Paul DeBruicker wrote
> Hi -
>
>
> After logging in, when I visit this page:
>
> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/all/newJob
>
> I get a 'content encodi
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