Hi all,
I'd like to know what is the status of Pharo on the RPi? It would be to
use it with serial port communications and seaside development.
Thanks,
Thierry
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SuffixConditionals adds #if: and #unless methods to BlockClosure. Currently in
VisualWorks but can be ported to other Smalltalks (like Pharo) as well.
Read here:
http://forum.world.st/ANN-SuffixConditionals-td4755785.html
Code is on Cincom Public Repo and snaphots on
Hi,
Following the Fuel test FLUserGuidesTest#testGZip I discovered that I can
serialize and materialize to and from GZip archives. Cool!
I tried with some small test object and it worked like a charm. When I tried
with a large object…
Serialization
- It does not work, the image instantly
I have a Phratch that begin to work on RPi (
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi/
).
So, you can probably use Pharo 3
Now I have problems with FileSystem, I will ask in another thread.
Jannik
2014-04-30 11:01 GMT+02:00 Goubier Thierry
Hi all,
I have an error on Pharo 3, with RPi.
The error is UnixResolverCan't find the request origin
To reproduce it, just run this line:
---
FileLocator home exists
Thank you for your help.
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Le 30/04/2014 11:58, jannik laval a écrit :
I have a Phratch that begin to work on RPi
(https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Phratch/job/Phratch-OneClick-RPi/).
So, you can probably use Pharo 3
Thanks.
I'll start moving the infrastructure there then.
Thierry
Now I have problems
The status of Rpi.
The VM work as a StackVM linux one,
Except for:
- Sound (recent bug will be fixed soon),
- NativeBoost (arm),
- FFI (recent change from Doug will be here soon)
and OsProcess (I just don not try it yet but I didn't look at it).
I
Branch: refs/tags/30846
Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core
Thanks JB! This is really great!
Thierry
Le 30/04/2014 13:18, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
The status of Rpi.
The VM work as a StackVM linux one,
Except for:
- Sound (recent bug will be fixed soon),
- NativeBoost (arm),
- FFI (recent change from Doug will be here soon)
and OsProcess (I just
philippeback wrote
I'd like to see the Pen class coming back in the main image.
Answered at
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22737674/wheres-the-pen-class-in-pharo
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'PharoNonCorePackages';
package: 'BitBltPen';
load.
Then you can Display restoreAfter: [Pen
Torsten Bergmann wrote
SuffixConditionals adds #if: and #unless methods to BlockClosure.
Currently in VisualWorks but can be ported to other Smalltalks (like
Pharo) as well.
Good idea! It is MIT and would be a great bridge for a Ruby community in the
spirit of
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:33 AM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch
roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote:
Hi,
Following the Fuel test FLUserGuidesTest#testGZip I discovered that I
can serialize and materialize to and from GZip archives. Cool!
I tried with some small test object and it worked like a charm.
On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:13, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Marcus,
On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:29, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
Without any information on what has been changed these
As it is MIT I ported it to Pharo:
Code is available on
http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/SuffixConditionals
One can load it from the config browser
Bye
T.
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2014 um 14:29 Uhr
Von: Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com
An: pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Torsten Bergmann [via Smalltalk]
ml-node+s1294792n475722...@n4.nabble.com wrote:
As it is MIT I ported it to Pharo:
Cool! Thanks :) Was it straightforward to port? I haven’t ported anything from
VW in a while. Xtreams was in my sights - we did a proof of concept
reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/24d9d2/pharo_30_the_immersive_live_environment_released/
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear World,
Pharo 3.0 (http://www.pharo.org) is here.
pastedGraphic.png
The past year seemed short as
It was a no-brainer, I did'nt even load the code into VisualWorks
(which I do not have installed these days as I have no up to date copy/version).
I just checked https://github.com/randycoulman/SuffixConditionals, the *.pst
files are XML files and are therefore readable. 3 extension methods
if:,
and is also at ycombinator
thumbs up!
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:14, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/24d9d2/pharo_30_the_immersive_live_environment_released/
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Esteban Lorenzano
Hi,
The new website is online!
http://pharo.org
For now, pharo-project.org still is the old website.
Next: pharo-project.org should forward to pharo.org,
it will still be available as old.pharo-project.org for some time.
Thanks a lot to
Nico http://nicolas-petton.fr,
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7673462
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:24, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
and is also at ycombinator
thumbs up!
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:14, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
reddit:
Hi Marcus,
On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 29 Apr 2014, at 16:13, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Marcus,
On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 29 Apr 2014, at 15:29, Eliot Miranda
Okay, here is version 0.1 - the most basic useful functionality to aid in
writing mappings.
Assuming Neo-JSON-Core is loaded
Gofer it
smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'SeansPlayground';
package: 'Neo-JSON-Utilities';
load.
Now if you:
reader :=
I just checked https://github.com/randycoulman/SuffixConditionals, the *.pst
files are XML files and are therefore readable
Ha, cool!
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yeah, and don’t forget Nico’s effort :)
I put him real pressure on him last 3 weeks, and he took it without complain…
and he did a great work :)
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:35, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The new website is online!
Wow! Instantly
2014-04-30 11:35 GMT-03:00 Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com:
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
The new website is online!
Wow! Instantly obvious that Aurelia was involved because it has that well
designed look instead of our usual I'm an engineer trying my best look,
lol ;-P
+1
The design is
EstebanLM wrote
yeah, and don’t forget Nico’s effort :)
I didn't actually *do* anything with the site yet, just enjoyed the look, so
I was saving that praise ;)
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Also on DZONE
http://www.dzone.com/links/pharo_30_is_out_the_live_programming_environment.html
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. April 2014 um 16:27 Uhr
Von: Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu
An: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org
Cc: Any question about pharo is welcome
Today is a great day !
I am really proud to be part of this community and thankful for the
contributions and hard work of so many people.
This is a very important milestone while the future looks even brighter.
Sven
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:01, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Eliot Miranda-2 wrote
Do they have a feedback channel through which you could ask? Why don't
you ask them?
Their feedback channel is unbelievable given how most companies handle
customer service - you contact them via github.com, and a real, knowledgable
person gets back to you... I've reached
From Reddit, a reader has a good point:
Ok, but WTF is Pharo? A new OS, A language/gui, A dockeresque
container system, Wordpress clone? What!!!
Novice tip. On your about page include answers to What does it do? Why
would I want it? Don't include a mission statement...
Maybe we should be more
We need more votes comments to get to the front page !
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:27, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7673462
On 30 Apr 2014, at 16:24, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
and is also at ycombinator
thumbs up!
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
Ok, but WTF is Pharo? A new OS, A language/gui, A dockeresque
The pattern from other cool language home pages seems to be one sentence
with what and why (examples below).
Here's a first take leveraging Simon Sinek's advice to Start With Why [1]:
Do you want total,
there you go.
I changed the “why pharo” taking your ides and extending them a bit.
opinions/contributions are welcome :)
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 17:24, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
Ok, but WTF is Pharo? A new OS, A language/gui, A dockeresque
On 04/28/2014 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
… more a Smalltalk one using Pharo:
MountainWest RubyConf 2014
Noel Rappin: But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk”
Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems like it
should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar
Slick! Congrats on the site.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Hi,
The new website is online!
http://pharo.org
For now, pharo-project.org still is the old website.
Next: pharo-project.org should forward to pharo.org,
it will still be
There are no NativeBoost on Rpi, FFI or OSProcess.
Basically the fileSystem work, but some data are fetch via env variable
and then NativeBoost.
The solution is to bypass all the request of env variable.
You should use another way until, we finish to integrate a way to request
correctly the
Yes, well done!!
Alexandre
On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl wrote:
Slick! Congrats on the site.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Hi,
The new website is online!
http://pharo.org
For now,
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
Today is a great day !
I am really proud to be part of this community and thankful for the
contributions and hard work of so many people.
This is a very important milestone while the future looks even brighter.
From reddit...
My mac complains: Pharo3.0 can't be opened because it is from an
unidentified developer. Your security prefernces allow installation of
only apps from the Mac App Store and identified developers. Of course I
just can turn off this. But still.
What is the constraint to
As a data point, OSProcess works out-of-the-box with the Squeak interpreter
VM shipped with Raspbian. So should be ok in Pharo, but I haven't tried it.
Doug
On Apr 30, 2014, at 09:03 , David T. Lewis wrote:
There are no NativeBoost on Rpi, FFI or OSProcess.
Basically the fileSystem work,
+10
I think Sean's suggestions and perspective make a lot of sense. Let's also not
forget that he is a native English speaker and we are not. And the whole idea
of the new website was mainly about marketing anyway.
On 30 Apr 2014, at 18:04, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
One
Excellent works guys, Pharo 3 has really exploded in our faces, cant
believe the amount of bug fixes and new feature / libraries, if Pharo is
not proof that Smalltalk is alive and kicking ass , dont know what it is :D
I love the new site but to be fair that old one was very good too. The new
one
As always... Time to actually do it. Is in my todo list since months, but I'm
always run into other problems/urgencies :(
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 18:16, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote:
From reddit...
My mac complains: Pharo3.0 can't be opened because it is from an
unidentified
I love the new website definitely an improvement , don't like the new
flatten logo , old one was a very beautiful design. R.I.P
Thanks for including my video Why Pharo in the website I feel honoured
and thank you for your hard work.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Alexandre Bergel
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
I've reached out and await their reply.
From github support:
The pharo-project/pharo-core repository is using the Email Service Hook to
provide notifications on push. The Email Service Hook doesn't currently
allow you to configure which pushes should trigger
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
Today is a great day !
+1 to all!
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Jimmie Houchin wrote:
On 04/28/2014 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
… more a Smalltalk one using Pharo:
MountainWest RubyConf 2014
Noel Rappin: But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk”
Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It
seems like it should be so similar to Ruby.
I really liked your video, I just think a the little bit at the front
that shows Amber should be trimmed. There was a comment on reddit "So
it's smalltalk in a browser? "
cheers -ben
kilon alios wrote:
I love the new website definitely an improvement ,
don't like the new flatten logo ,
On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear World,
Pharo 3.0 (http://www.pharo.org) is here.
Congratulations everyone.
And many many thanks for all of you that have so generously contributed to
reach this important milestone
sebastian
o/
ok, I have put the first suggestion. I can try the other one too… as you prefer
:)
Esteban
On 30 Apr 2014, at 18:04, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
One of Simon Sinek's core ideas is that people buy your product because
they believe what you believe, and that the why needs to
Hmm I see no such reply in my comment at Reddit. Actually from what I see
none replied to my comment.
Trimmed as removed ? You mean I should remove Amber mention completely ?
For me as a coder is important that I work inside an environment that
allows me to take advantage of existing
On Apr 30, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
One of Simon Sinek's core ideas is that people buy your product because
they believe what you believe, and that the why needs to come first to suck
them in.
Well said Sean.
For the record, you can quote me on this
I thought that we did that already:
OSEnvironment class#isAvailable
NativeBoost class#isAvailable
PlatformIndependentEnvironment
No ?
Are you using the latest 3.0 ?
On 30 Apr 2014, at 18:49, Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arn...@gmail.com
wrote:
That the point I want to checks it, run
Hi Sean,
*thank you*. Just to be sure, the requirement is for the email service
to be tailorable so that one can ask e.g. for the commit id /and/ the
commit comment, or the commit id, commit comment and affected files. Is
that what you asked for?
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Sean P.
Dear all,
i just downloaded Pharo 3.0 and installed Roassal2 via Configuration
Manager (Stable Version).
When trying the Roassal examples (from Tool-Menu) i got an red screen.
Platform Ubuntu 14.04LTS
Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30846
Need some help :-)
BW,
Volkert
Since this discussion often returns on this mailinglist, here is a good article.
It focuses on Haskell, but a lot of arguments apply to Smalltalk as well.
I just tried on Mac OS X and that worked fine, you have to make sure that you
use the latest VM I guess. I believe the required libraries come with the VM.
But I am an inexperienced user on this area.
On 30 Apr 2014, at 19:53, volk...@nivoba.de wrote:
Dear all,
i just downloaded Pharo 3.0
In the Smalltalk heritage. Pharo comes from Smalltalk 80.
But we don't want to be stuck in 1980. We want Smalltalk 2014.
Smalltalk 80 was modern for 1980. They didn't want to be stuck in 1976. ...
And Smalltalk isn't unique to this. Is C11 not a C because it is not
KR, or C89, C90 or C99?
Is
The 2D stuff works for me, but there seems to be a problem with the 3D stuff.
I hope the Rossal developers can fix this soon, since we're showing off Rossal
with the 3.0 release
On 30 Apr 2014, at 18:53, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I wanted to show some 3D
Again… you are missing the point.
nobody here doubts Pharo is a Smalltalk.
nobody outside our small world believes Smalltalk is alive.
And yes… you can argue all what you want. But you are scratching where it does
not itch.
We choose not to *market* Pharo as a Smalltalk, because each time
Hi Johan,
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote:
Since this discussion often returns on this mailinglist, here is a good
article.
It focuses on Haskell, but a lot of arguments apply to Smalltalk as well.
Eliot,
if possible, next time provide the quora link not the forbes one. forbes is
advertising at me :-(
OK, but I am not an active Quora user... and it's asking me for a lot of things
before I can actually read that article :-/
Now that I have wrestled through it, the next time I will do
On 04/28/2014 11:12 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
… more a Smalltalk one using Pharo:
MountainWest RubyConf 2014
Noel Rappin: But Really, You Should Learn Smalltalk”
Smalltalk has mystique. We talk about it more than we use it. It seems like it
should be so similar to Ruby. It has similar
Hi Clément,
There is not a stable version available, in fact Roassal3D requires the
bleeding edge version of NBOpenGL to work, which is producing your error.
Try loading Roassal3D using the following Gofer script, which is available
in the Roassal3D smalltalk hub
2014-04-30 15:07 GMT-03:00 Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com:
Here is an unfortunate quote from that thread.
emaringolo 1 point an hour ago
Pharo is aimed to do serious/business development, and it's been reshaping
itself since its conception (several years ago when it forked from Squeak).
But that is the point. This kind of marketing is false. It denies who we
are.
As soon as they look at Pharo. Learn to use and then learn that Pharo is
a Smalltalk and that we are liars.
Did keeping silent about Pharo help in the Reddit thread. No.
Did the current marketing explain well what
he/she lost me at The benefit of more libraries is real but marginal
thats a a big nope from me.
If there is one lesson we can learn from Java is that more libraries is
EVERYTHING.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote:
Eliot,
if possible, next time
Some days a I really would love not to love smalltalk...
On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:52, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote:
But that is the point. This kind of marketing is false. It denies who we are.
As soon as they look at Pharo. Learn to use and then learn that Pharo is a
Smalltalk
On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:52 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
he/she lost me at The benefit of more libraries is real but marginal
thats a a big nope from me.
If there is one lesson we can learn from Java is that more libraries is
EVERYTHING.
not to mention Javascript and the
Is that cause or consequence of popularity?
Johan
On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:58, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com
wrote:
On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:52 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
he/she lost me at The benefit of more libraries is real but marginal
thats a a big
Ronnie,
The point of the Configuration Browser is to load #stable configurations, if
those do not exist or cannot be produced, than the configuration should no be
there I think. The goal of the Configuration Browser is to make it super easy
for users to load something with just one click.
I
On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote:
We choose not to *market* Pharo as a Smalltalk, because each time someone
outside our small world hear about Smalltalk believes that is a long time
dead language
Then it’s a failed decision as Reddit reactions
The point I take home from the article is that every popular language became
popular for a reason. None of those reasons where good design or the presence
of libraries.
Javascript because it's the only language that runs in a browser.
Java and C# because they have corporate backings.
Ruby
For me at least , the way I see it is that each coder is special. We all
can find common ground, but we can all find differences. As a coder you
want a library to solve the specific problem you had at this point, it
maybe it a small one or a big one. Having more libraries ensures that you
will be
On 30 April 2014 19:33, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-04-30 15:07 GMT-03:00 Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com:
Here is an unfortunate quote from that thread.
emaringolo 1 point an hour ago
Pharo is aimed to do serious/business development, and it's been
Javascript because it's the only language that runs in a browser
Eh nope
Every language out there runs in the Browser. Actually you will find more
than one implementation for each language. Yes they compile to Javascript
but then that does not mean anything. Every language on Desktop compiles to
Yet it worked like a charm because developers loved the fact that they had in
their hand a huge monolithic platform that could satisfy their wildest dream
as far as library support went through. And on top that platform was cross
platform.
Sounds like Smalltalk :-)
Don't get me wrong: a
Not exactly pharo-dev related but people related and Pharo is done by people
and this might contribute to understand the dynamics of people:
Nicholas Christakis: The Sociological Science Behind Social Networks and Social
Influence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wadBvDPeE4E
On 30 Apr 2014, at 21:51, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
Every language out there runs in the Browser
You may know this:
https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
Johan
We should not forget the Java is dead craze over a decade ago. It was the
time where dynamic language like python and ruby were gaining a lot of
traction but here we are a decade later and Java is alive and kicking.
I seriously doubt that there are a lot of people out there that take
Smalltalk
Thank you guys,
I will try to find something that does not break Phratch.
Cheers,
Jannik
2014-04-30 19:43 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
I thought that we did that already:
OSEnvironment class#isAvailable
NativeBoost class#isAvailable
PlatformIndependentEnvironment
No
sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote
Then it’s a failed decision as Reddit reactions proves.
I think that's a bit premature. The reaction on Reddit was because there was
no mention on the Pharo site/release-notice of Smalltalk *anywhere*. There
was no path to take people from the sound bite to the
All of the arguments why Pharo is Smalltalk are correct.
Let me tell you a story...
My friends and I are planning a trip to Spain. I am explaining that in
Spanish, yo - which means hi in English slang - means l. They are
arguing passionately that yo means hi and presenting evidence upon
evidence
I am sorry but again a big NO from me.
I am interested in two field, Graphics (2D and 3D) and music/audio
synthesis. Both of these fields are dominated by C/C++.
You could say is because of the fact that C/C++ is heavily optimised and of
course I would agree but its not that of a big reason
Excellent work!
Thank you: Nico, Esteban, Marcus!
Doru
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote:
yeah, and don’t forget Nico’s effort :)
I put him real pressure on him last 3 weeks, and he took it without
complain… and he did a great work :)
Esteban
I understand. My apologies for contributing to one of those days.
For me that day was while I was reading this thread and watching Doru
and Sean arguing with Eliot. It almost made me want to go back to
Squeak. Not that I am saying there is anything wrong with Squeak.
They were firmly arguing
I was reading this thread and watching... Sean arguing... that Pharo is NOT
Smalltalk
No As I and Esteban (at least, maybe others) have repeated, *we are
NOT saying that Pharo is not Smalltalk*.
Either we're not explaining ourselves well or (more likely IMHO) everyone is
so emotional
Holy smoley!
117 emails since I checked a few hours ago? Maybe we should rename Pharo
“Prolix”?
:-)
on
Here's my musings about how we integrate the two motives - to acknowledge our
heritage /and/ break out of our pigeon hole. My key point here is to
gradually introduce the Smalltalk part after people are deep enough to have
gotten excited about the ideas without dismissing them because of cultural
onierstrasz wrote
117 emails since I checked a few hours ago?
110 of those were mine, sorry :-P
Signing off for today...
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Why not just
'Pharo is a Smalltalk for the 21st century. What we have now C#, Java and the
like will try to „invent during the next thirty years!
If you want the future now come and take a closer look...'
Andreas
Personally I am very interested to see how developers see Pharo, because
the way they see it is also the future of Pharo the directions it is going.
So while some may find these type of discussion derailing its very
important for the direction of Pharo.
Even though its very important to add code
On rasp there a re no native boost and no OSProcess for now but OSProcess seems
work well on my own Jenkins job.
After few test I will send a pull request.
Here is a OSProcess added version of the rasp VM
Hi Sven,
About the configuration browser, I don't know why Roassal 3D it is there,
because currently is highly unstable and it is going to keep being for a
while. We are still missing lot of features and we need to fix lot of bugs.
As for the black boxes, that is a shader issue which I could
We have that list too:
Page 3 of
http://www.pharo-project.org/download/pictures/be/j32hajf3kjdbsebqo0a9zc5tk8ekxt/pharovision.pdf
Or this version:
http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2012-May/004059.html
Now that I see this list again, I feel that it should be part of
On 30 Apr 2014, at 23:48, Ronie Salgado ronies...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sven,
About the configuration browser, I don't know why Roassal 3D it is there,
because currently is highly unstable and it is going to keep being for a
while. We are still missing lot of features and we need to fix
yeap definitely sounds a like a good idea to me :)
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:
We have that list too:
Page 3 of
http://www.pharo-project.org/download/pictures/be/j32hajf3kjdbsebqo0a9zc5tk8ekxt/pharovision.pdf
Or this version:
2014-04-30 20:03 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
I just tried on Mac OS X and that worked fine, you have to make sure that
you use the latest VM I guess. I believe the required libraries come with
the VM. But I am an inexperienced user on this area.
On 30 Apr 2014, at 19:53,
Hi,
I see many usage of #should: in SciSmalltalk tests that could simply be
turned into #assert: or eventually #assert:equals:
Why wanting to use a block?
Other than #should:raise: and #shouldnt:raise:, I don't really see the
point of #should: alone anyway...
IMO should: should be deprecated,
Some not so different opinion:
http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/sunit-and-shouldshouldnt-vs-assertdeny/
2014-05-01 0:52 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Cellier
nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com:
Hi,
I see many usage of #should: in SciSmalltalk tests that could simply be
turned into #assert:
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