[Pharo-dev] Esteban's ChangeLog week of 6 November 2017

Hello! This is my weekly ChangeLog, from 6 November 2017 to 12 November 2017. You can see it in a better format by going here: http://log.smallworks.eu/web/search?from=6/11/2017=12/11/2017 ChangeLog = 5 November 2017: *I spent the full week working on the

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

When working with git (and iceberg) you do not add two repos (one original, one yours). What you do in git is to add your fork as a “remote” (in iceberg is in remotes tab). So you have one repo and you push/pull from different remotes as needed. Esteban > On 12 Nov 2017, at 16:59, Todd

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

It seems like there ought to be a way to install a package from a github repo without typing scripts? I'm going to make changes so I forked Estaban's repo and entered that into iceberg browser. The iceberg UI, BTW, does not show a way to distinguish between different forks so both just say

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

Yes, that worked. Thanks. > On Nov 12, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Alistair Grant wrote: > > Hi Todd, > > On 12 November 2017 at 17:57, Todd Blanchard wrote: >> Hi Alistair, >> >> THANK YOU! This cleared up a lot and I didn't know where to go to read all

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

Hi Todd, On 12 November 2017 at 17:57, Todd Blanchard wrote: > Hi Alistair, > > THANK YOU! This cleared up a lot and I didn't know where to go to read all > that stuff. Seems I just had to check "Use Custom SSH Keys" and I was good. > > I think probably opening that panel

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

That did it! Seems like that should be enabled by default but...I'm able to proceed. > On Nov 12, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > What about > > Iceberg enableMetacelloIntegration: true. > > before the metacello command? > > Esteban > > On 12 Nov

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

A good trick to get the same is to have self inspect in the buttons or widgets you are developing/using. Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote: > The most productive environment I have ever used was Hypercard and that was > because you could cmd-opt

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

What about Iceberg enableMetacelloIntegration: true. before the metacello command? Esteban > On 12 Nov 2017, at 14:39, Todd Blanchard wrote: > > Still no joy. Five days trying to do this. Incredibly frustrated. > > I hunted down every single possible cache instance >

[Pharo-dev] Moving back and forth from 64 to 32 bit images - possible?

What is the story on moving back and forth on 32 and 64 bit images? I'd like to develop apps for my Raspberry Pi on my Mac - both will use native libraries but the Mac is full of 64 bit system libraries and the Pi is full of 32 bit libraries and I don't want to have to run around building 32

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

The most productive environment I have ever used was Hypercard and that was because you could cmd-opt click on any button or field or UI element and the script for that would open and you could edit it. I have always wanted that in Smalltalk. > On Nov 12, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Ben Coman

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

A feature I believe would be useful is to help a user to dig into the application code behind a button (e.g. Hierarchy button). This would help discoverability of the system. I learnt a lot using Halos>Debug but it's a bit tedious deciphering from the instance variables what system application

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

Hi Alistair, THANK YOU! This cleared up a lot and I didn't know where to go to read all that stuff. Seems I just had to check "Use Custom SSH Keys" and I was good. I think probably opening that panel on auth error would be a nice enhancement (and once I figure out iceberg I'll submit a pull

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tonel and class definition changes

Yes I love this changing paradigm rules. Stef On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > On 12 Nov 2017, at 12:07, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > Thank's Esteban. > > Originally I thought that Tonel will be only Pharo format. And in

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

Hi Todd, On 12 November 2017 at 17:00, Todd Blanchard wrote: > And how do I do this? I can fetch the repo from the command line Take a look at the FAQ in the Iceberg readme: https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg > Sent from the road > > On Nov 12, 2017, at 05:51, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is fileout on the change sorter working in Pharo 70?

Yes definitively. Stef On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Stef & Stephan, > > On 8 November 2017 at 22:29, stephan wrote: >> On 08-11-17 22:03, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>> File @

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

And how do I do this? I can fetch the repo from the command line Sent from the road > On Nov 12, 2017, at 05:51, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > >> On 11 Nov 2017, at 17:43, Todd Blanchard wrote: >> >> >> "No ssh-agent suitable credentials found".

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

2017-11-12 16:10 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > > > On Nov 12, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: > > > > 2017-11-11 22:39 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > > Hi Denis, > > > > It is not a global function. > > > > It is a class-side

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tonel and class definition changes

> On 12 Nov 2017, at 12:07, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > Thank's Esteban. > > Originally I thought that Tonel will be only Pharo format. And in that case I > was wondering why it uses old names which will need support in future. heh… you know this thing about changing

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

> On Nov 12, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2017-11-11 22:39 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi Denis, > > It is not a global function. > > It is a class-side method because it relies on the following logic: > - if the element is attached

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tonel and class definition changes

Thank's Esteban. Originally I thought that Tonel will be only Pharo format. And in that case I was wondering why it uses old names which will need support in future. But for other Smalltalks it is clear: we will need support it anyway. 2017-11-11 12:39 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

2017-11-11 22:39 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi Denis, > > It is not a global function. > > It is a class-side method because it relies on the following logic: > - if the element is attached to a space, it uses that space to dispatch > the event. > - otherwise, it creates a

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

> On 11 Nov 2017, at 17:43, Todd Blanchard wrote: > > > "No ssh-agent suitable credentials found". Why? Its a public repository. because you are using an SSH protocol, regardless it’s public state. You need to identify yourself so the handshake can happen. Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] feenk log

BTW doru Class comments are important Look at the comment of BlSpace. I did not know that it was limited to a window. On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Denis, > > It is not a global function. > > It is a class-side method because it relies on the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Convention for "reset" methods

+1. I think "accessing" sometimes ends up the default catch-all. "Initialization" makes more sense for this. Cheers -ben On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > Hi, > > Torsten is doing a really cool job by cleaning the protocols of Pharo. > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

> On 12 Nov 2017, at 09:28, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > the only thing I can think now is you have a cache problem (older version of > sources, older version of image, I don't know). > this is *exactly* what I did and worked: > > $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/61+vm

Re: [Pharo-dev] 6.1 Iceberg - how is this supposed to work?

the only thing I can think now is you have a cache problem (older version of sources, older version of image, I don't know). this is *exactly* what I did and worked: $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/61+vm | bash $ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image --no-default-preferences open

Re: [Pharo-dev] summary of "float & fraction equality bug"

Hi, i dont agree with this pov. for example consider this mixed-mode calc: aFraction ln + aNumber. Fraction>>#ln returns a float and i suppose you dont want to change that eg by returning a quasi-NaN like "ResultNonRepresentableInTheSetOfFractionsError". if you suppress (2) and aNumber would be a

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #286: 20673 Categorize uncategorized methods in classes starting with H

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #286 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #467 was integrated: "20673 Categorize uncategorized methods in classes starting with H" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/467 Issue Url:

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 7.0-dev] Build #285: 20675 Categorize uncategorized methods in classes starting with D

There is a new Pharo build available! The status of the build #285 was: SUCCESS. The Pull Request #469 was integrated: "20675 Categorize uncategorized methods in classes starting with D" Pull request url: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/469 Issue Url: