Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 7 provisional HOWTO

2017-07-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx Uko. We should improve. On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > This is actually fun. For pharo contributions I just used Iceberg ui without > scripting anything and it works absolutely fine. Iceberg has a default > location for cloned repositories, and it puts pharo there too

Re: [Pharo-dev] No Metadata in 7.0

2017-07-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi nicolai we should really fix that. I know that it is painful because we got out our confort zone. I really hope that we will be able to do something better. Now what we should do is incrementally rebuild a better system. About the git support on windows. I thought it was working what is the pro

Re: [Pharo-dev] integrating FileDialog into Pharo 7

2017-07-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
lovely :) On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Can you try to prepare a pull requeast that will integrate it? The PR will > need to: > - add the packages into the repository > - add them into the baseline (BaselineOfUI) > - remove old FileDialogWindow (becuase when we add som

Re: [Pharo-dev] [OFFTOPIC] Update: Debris Publishing / Quuve Research & Portfolio Management Platform

2017-07-12 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi mariano what kind of help do you want? Stef On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi all, > > A while back our team presented Quuve [1], a customizable investment > management ecosystem for professional investors. We also discussed the > technologies employed to bu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Epicea applying multiple changes

2017-07-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi andrei this is strange because I recovered multiple time recently due to some hidden bugs and I did not face the one you report. Stef On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Andrei Chis wrote: > Hi, > > Is there some known bug in Epicea when applying multiple changes at once in > Pharo 6? > > I ha

Re: [Pharo-dev] Automatic Refactoring Disranging Seaside Rest Methods

2017-07-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Lionel when the system does find a source, it decompiles the method and this is why you get the code changed. Stef On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Max Leske wrote: > As Gabriel notes, it looks like your missing the .sources file. I don't know > what pharocloud supports, but you could try packa

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Keccak hashing algorithm

2017-07-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks Norbert. The consortium paid nicolas to deliver iceberg and esteban to push further for git because the world is moving and git and github support will give us a lot of exposure and a really powerful distributing versionning source control system (even if I really enjoyed MC - it is showing

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoSpur32Vm

2017-07-22 Thread Stephane Ducasse
+ 1 I'm curious to know the libraries that are making more trouble. (I'm thinking about FreeType) because we should throw away. Stef On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > Great to hear this news. > Thanks for your efforts Nicolas. > cheers -ben > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:51 AM,

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Launcher not working (Windows)

2017-07-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
tx christophe. Launcher is cool and this is nice to see some effort on that front. Stef On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I’m currently updating the Pharo Launcher so that it can determine the right > VM to use to launch an image and download it if not av

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem file attributes and #isSymlink patch

2017-07-24 Thread Stephane Ducasse
HI alistair this is supercool that you push this! I mean it for real. Because this simplnk stuff was always getting on our way for scripts. This is really great to see this happening. Stef On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Max Leske wrote: > Nice work Alistair! > > > > On 24 July 2017 at 10:10:0

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] FileSystem file attributes and #isSymlink patch

2017-07-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Alistair Yes it should become part of the core of Pharo :). Stef On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks very much for your follow-up. > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 07:28:07PM -0400, David T. Lewis wrote: >> >> Hi Alistair, >> >> I am copying this to vm-de

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I imagine that hot-fixes means when we found a serious bug in the alpha version and see that it is also in the previous version. Now Hilaire if you want a change to be integrated in Pharo and Pharo 60 for example. - we should have a bug entry on fogbugz (you see when I read the emails I do not se

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo 6.1 (summer) released!

2017-07-26 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Athens is what is in Pharo. I have no idea of the rest. Stef On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > 2017-07-26 16:25 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducasse : >> >> I imagine that hot-fixes means when we found a serious bug in the >> alpha version and see that

Re: [Pharo-dev] WorkingSession log

2017-07-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
This is really interesting. I would be interested to see why ClassSessionHandler(FreeTypeSettings) takes 2/3 of the computation. Without it we would be 100 ms. Stef On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > I instrumented WorkingSession with a log collection that ho

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving formatting [was: Big claps for Epicea (small request!)]

2017-07-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> Hi Denis, > you're right, for literal numbers it's been solved in Pharo at least since > 3.0, or maybe even 2.0 (by usage of RB AST I guess). > That's a major improvment over Squeak which is is certainly where I last > encountered the problem. > > Still, formatting does mess line breaking/indenti

Re: [Pharo-dev] WorkingSession log

2017-07-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
o that, and eliminate the FreeType > stuff for server-side deployment. > > cheers -ben > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> >> This is really interesting. >> I would be interested to see why ClassSessionHandler(FreeTypeSettings) >

Re: [Pharo-dev] iceberg / libgit behind proxy

2017-07-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I did not try behind a proxy. On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > Anyone got it working to use iceberg /libgit behind a proxy? > > I can access monticello repositories with the right proxy settings. > But using iceberg shows an error about > can not access github.org > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] iceberg / libgit behind proxy

2017-07-27 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Nicolai here are my setup (done with pavel) for pharo 70 active dev. There are two phases: - once done for all (cloning the repo) - once for each image I download I hope it helps (bt not for the proxy) Stef On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > I did not try behin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Mustache moved to github

2017-07-28 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi norbert did you update the catalog entry? Stef On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > In the spirit of git notification…I moved mustache to github. > > https://github.com/noha/mustache > > Enjoy! > > Norbert > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso is moved to github

2017-07-28 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx denis. I like the scoped refactoring :). Do you have settings for all the automatic protocols? BTW do you kept the inplace edit of protocol? Because it was cool to double click on it to rename it. Stef On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi. > > I moved Calypso to gi

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Following changes in the bootstrapping process

2017-08-01 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Pavel This is super excellent! IMPRESSIVE. An image without the compiler and a reloadable compiler. Super cool. Stef On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Hello, > > we are checking a huge pull request #177 > (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/177) that will cha

Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog down

2017-08-01 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx christophe. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > Thanks! > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 01. August 2017 um 10:48 Uhr > Von: "Christophe Demarey" > An: "Pharo Development List" > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] Catalog down > > It is nows back on line! > > Christophe > > > Le 1 a

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Following changes in the bootstrapping process

2017-08-01 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ystem based on the current > code-base that is able to be bootstrapped has about 260kB. > > -- Pavel > > >> >> Is Hermes going to be a generic binary content loader? >> >> Phil >> >> On Aug 1, 2017 12:36, "Stephane Ducasse" wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Following changes in the bootstrapping process

2017-08-01 Thread Stephane Ducasse
all image? > Is Hermes going to be a generic binary content loader? > > Phil > > On Aug 1, 2017 12:36, "Stephane Ducasse" wrote: >> >> Hi Pavel >> >> This is super excellent! IMPRESSIVE. An image without the compiler and >> a reloadable compiler.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Following changes in the bootstrapping process

2017-08-02 Thread Stephane Ducasse
gt;>>> designed to only work as light way of loading code during the >>>>>>> bootstrap. So >>>>>>> that, it is heavily coupled with Pharo (it can be changed, for example >>>>>>> implementing another loader / installer) and u

Re: [Pharo-dev] [IMPORTANT] Following changes in the bootstrapping process

2017-08-02 Thread Stephane Ducasse
>> - Deprecated FileStream & childs (Moved to Deprecated70) > > *Counts direct references to FileStream & subclasses in a 6.1 Moose image* > Brave souls! It means that Moose will have to update. These classes are not gone just deprecated. > I hope the migration guide will be up to snuff, or I ima

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Calypso] Inherited methods checkbox look backwards to me

2017-08-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks because this is months that I said the same to denis. And I will never never explain that to students and I will add a setting to turn it the other way. I hate this! Stef On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi Denis, > > I love the inherited methods feature. Rea

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Calypso] Inherited methods checkbox look backwards to me

2017-08-03 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Mariano how many year of pharo programming do you have? And you got confused :) so imagine a newbie. And imagine when you browse code that you do not know. It violates all the inheritance mind sharing. Stef On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 a

[Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi guys While writing pillar code, I ended up using "stream cr" and it worries me to still expand usage of a pattern I would like to remove. Let us imagine that we would like to prepare the migration from cr. I was thinking that we could replace cr invocation by newLine so that after newLine coul

Re: [Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
200, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> While writing pillar code, I ended up using "stream cr" and it >> worries >> me to still expand usage >> of a pattern I would like to remove. >> >> Let us imagine that we would like to prepare the

Re: [Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-04 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ot;Esteban Lorenzano" wrote: >> >> >> > On 4 Aug 2017, at 14:06, Stephane Ducasse >> > wrote: >> > >> > Well. This is not implemented like that in Pharo. >> > >> > cr is bad because it does not mean that it is independent of

Re: [Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-05 Thread Stephane Ducasse
So one step at a time: - #cr and #lf just put this character in the stream. - #newLine put the underlying OS line ending. ( and sorry for the nostalgic but nl sucks and to me this is netherlands and not newline :). Then we should revisit all the cr inside the system and use newline. Then we shoul

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher - uninformative Pharo7 template names

2017-08-05 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi torsten Yes it sounds good to have MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH/BUILDNUMBER scheme On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Ben, > > reason is that for Pharo 7 currently an sha git hash is used in the file > name > instead of a (more clear) build number. > > See http://files.pharo.or

[Pharo-dev] Spec menu extensibility (epicea)

2017-08-05 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi guys I would like to know if there is a pattern to build extensible menu in Spec. For example, I extending Epicea to support pillar fileout so that I can turn a coding section into a pillar steps of action. I wanted to extend the epicea browser to get my menu in: But the code is like that: EP

Re: [Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-05 Thread Stephane Ducasse
:) Me too. Stef On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> So one step at a time: >> >> - #cr and #lf just put this character in the stream. >> - #newLine put the underlying OS li

Re: [Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
gt;>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> On 4 Aug 2017, at 15:41, Damien Pollet >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I agree with Pablo, #cr and #lf should not be clever and

Re: [Pharo-dev] About cr and lf

2017-08-06 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Guille I agree with you :). Stef On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> Agreed :) >> >> But so far what do we do? >> >> >> - #cr and #lf just put this

Re: [Pharo-dev] Having green builds

2017-08-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Yes this is great. Now I will be rerunning the pending fix and integrate the green ones. On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > As you all know, we are now building from github. Integrations are made > through pull requests. And pull requests are validated using

[Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi alistair I will go over all the FS changes and push them in Pharo 70. I'm learning the process to integrate fixes and I attract bugs :) Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
t-gt-and-path-canonicalisation-td4952575.html, > so I might separate that out and make it a separate patch. > > > Cheers, > Alistair > > On 8 August 2017 at 10:27, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi alistair >> >> I will go over all the FS changes and push them in Pharo 70. >> I'm learning the process to integrate fixes and I attract bugs :) >> >> Stef >> >

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-08 Thread Stephane Ducasse
ut do you suggest to drop it and close it? TX On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > For the moment I'm trying to understand the process and this is not that > simple > because in flux. > > stef > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Alistair Grant wrote:

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] PR 185 / Build 17

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi We do not have yet an automated mail after each integration. So I will do it by hand. I'm going over the green issues https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%20and%20branch%20Pipeline/view/change-requests/ And integrating the ones I understand. Then I will lo

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx guille. So I will update the bug entry. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> Hi Alistair >> >> I'm going over the green build first. >> >> - Ca

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx! So that I do not make mistake: The fix is the second solution. Now do we have somewhere the first one? On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hi > > 2017-08-09 8:47 GMT+02:00 Alistair Grant : >> >> Hi Stef, >> >> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 0

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] build 18 / PR 66

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
20063-isDeprecated-should-consider-protocol-names Stef

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] build 19 / PR-168

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20238/Run-out-of-memory-the-image-hangs-without-out-of-memory-warning https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/168 Now I get message that I do not understand test failure error from jenkins :( https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec menu extensibility (epicea)

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
found out that PragmaMenuBuilder is > compatible with Spec. > > Something like... > > builder := PragmaMenuBuilder pragmaKeyword: 'myPragma' model: self. > menu := MenuModel new. > menu fromSpec: builder menuSpec. > > Peter > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 06:26:

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
eFile https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/133 - https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19609/FileReference-base-should-be-before-last-separator https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/137 Did I miss some others? Stef On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Stephane Ducasse

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] build 21 / PR 187

2017-08-09 Thread Stephane Ducasse
in PR 21 https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-ci-jenkins2/job/Test%20pending%20pull%20request%20and%20branch%20Pipeline/job/development/21/ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20295/ Stef

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] Build 22 / PR 169

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Build 22 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/169 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20249/Add-some-colors-to-the-themes

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] build 19 / PR-168

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Le mer. 9 août 2017 à 21:47, Stephane Ducasse a > écrit : > >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20238/Run-out-of-memory- >> the-image-hangs-without-out-of-memory-warning >> >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/168 >> >> Now I get message th

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec menu extensibility (epicea)

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> for each menu, or have the menu name as an argument. The same goes for > differentiating pragmas between different tools. > > e.g. > > vs #OP context: #OPUmlClassEditorPlugin> > > the latter seems like it's adding more complexity. > > Peter > > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 08:23:50PM +0200, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> Tx! >> So that I do not make mistake: >> The fix is the second solution. Now do we have somewhere the first one? > > N

[Pharo-dev] [ Pharo 70 ] build 23 / PR 132

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17848/SequenciableCollection-first-raise-an-Error-if-the-collection-if-too-small https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/132 Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec menu extensibility (epicea)

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
vigate. But if we want to extend it we wan to be able to add groups to > it. In VW we number the groups in the base menu in tens, so again/undo is > 10.0, cut/copy/paste is 20.0, etc. Then anyone can define a new group > relative to the base groups by providing a group number su

Re: [Pharo-dev] Writeup: how to contribute to Pharo

2017-08-10 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx this is really good and I will use it to produce new clean images to work on Pharo 70 On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi, > > I've made some write up for the pharo part (not metacello or external > projects) > > https://github.com/guillep/PharoIntegrationProcess/wik

[Pharo-dev] [ Pharo 70 ] build 30 PR 69 Make-sure-Symbol-concatenation-results-in-a-Symbol-not-a-String/

2017-08-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
PR 69 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/69 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19802/Make-sure-Symbol-concatenation-results-in-a-Symbol-not-a-String/

Re: [Pharo-dev] Writeup: how to contribute to Pharo

2017-08-11 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Nicolai I started super simple. I clone and point my fresh dled image to the use the clone. Then I can do simple PR and review the issues. I will do the installation several times to learn (but not clone). I'm not sure that it is needed but I have cd /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/pharo/7.0

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Noury is still developing PharoJS. If you want to be productive you should report - what you did. - what went wrong. I will forward to Noury such information because he is not reading Pharo mailing-list. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Frank-B wrote: > As recommended here: > http://fo

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS fails at first attempt

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi frank You can contact noury at bouraq...@gmail.com Serge does not work on PharoJS. Noury and Dave are. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Frank-B wrote: > @Serge and @those who developed PharoJS > > My first attempt to play with PharoJS failed. > See here: http://forum.world.st/PharoJS-cr

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi frank I think that you are slowly but steadily destroying your aura in this mailing-list, so be careful. I say that to help you. Filter are easy to set. We are all concerned that some of the solutions are not at the level where they should be. I'm sure that Noury like us all would love to have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add JSONSchemas to NeoJSON

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi henry Here is the email of sven Van Caekenberghe He is probably on vacation else he would have replied. This is great if you can extend neoJSON it is a nice and important piece of software. Stef On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:04 PM, henry wrote: > Is Sven still working on NeoJSON? I want to he

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
We have some instability with the VM. Now can you tell us more how it "blew up"? I browsed the code and nothing special jump to my eyes. Stef On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 2:08 PM, henry wrote: > Hi all. I was testing with this eventual_test package and it blows up the > pharo 6.1 vm. I'd welcome poin

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx eliot. On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 12:55 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi Andrei, > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Andrei Chis > wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I was executing this code '(2009/2000) ** (3958333/10)' with the >> Pharo6.1 distribution and the vm crashed with she stack attached be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Github and Fogbugz integration

2017-08-13 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx guille! On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi all, > > we just configured fogbugz and github integration as follows: > > http://help.fogcreek.com/8048/integration-with-git > > Quoting the instructions: > > >1. Now you can refer to your FogBugz cases in your GitHub

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
n my learning todo list was to try and replace that JS > generator with something from Smalltalk - so I think we can possibly come up > with something that ticks all the right boxes (I’d like to try anyway). > > I’ll keep working away on it and compare notes with you. I think with > Pil

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi guille thanks for raising this point. I will wait a bit that other people comment on it since it is a crucial point. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > I’m definitely in favour of doing something (as I found it confusing, and > in a way also found it has the potent

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi Henry I do not think that Fuel is managed from SqueakSource. Fuel is central to Pharo so it should be under Pharo.. Have a look at the repo associated with the fuel package in Pharo 60 for example. Sent from a phone that is not trendy On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, henry wrote: > I loaded

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel fails in squeak

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I checked and in Pharo 60 MCSmalltalkhubRepository owner: 'Pharo' project: 'Fuel' user: '' password: '' Now Fuel is by default loaded into Pharo so may be you have another scenario. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:02 PM, henry wrote: > I loaded the latest Fuel from squeak source and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Anybody using Orca Smalltalk to JavaScript?

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
> > Oh, I'm plenty comfortable discussing it on the Pharo lists. :) I > was referring to different context in which someone asked me a question > here, and I got attacked for responding to it. I surprised about it. Because we are welcoming discussions. Now discussions around Pharo are better

Re: [Pharo-dev] Little article: keep your pharo repository in sync

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks guille This is great to have all these ressources on git integration. Once you are done :) we can really easily create a booklet around git and pharo. Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > This little article explains how you should keep your branches in sync >

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoJS crashes at first try

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Frank-B wrote: > Stephane, > > thank you for your open words. > > 1) No I am NOT Frank Lesser and I will communicate this even clearer in a > personal email to you. Ok ;) > > 2) I had tried to make very clear that I see the Pharo project very positive > and my cr

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] vm crash when using rairedTo: with fractions

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
impression that this is going to be a slightly rockier year as there >> have been some pretty revolutionary changes made to get us here. >> >> As its a vm change does this mean we get 6.2 queued up somehow? >> >> Tim >> >> > On 13 Aug 2017, at 20:12, Stephane D

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70] build 35 - PR 172 Implement-WeakIdentityValueDictionary

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
[Pharo 70 ] build 35 - PR 172 Implement-WeakIdentityValueDictionary https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20105/Implement-WeakIdentityValueDictionary

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue 20309 - Startup should run always in a fresh process

2017-08-14 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks for this discussion! It will improve Guille proposal and Pharo :) I'm happy! And learning things. (ok I should prepare my lectures instead of reading. I guess that I will have to use pomodoro techniques to force me to work :) Stef On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/75 > > > Thanks! > Alistair > > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 08:23:49PM +, Alistair Grant wrote: >> Hi Stef, >> >> On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 10:12:17PM +0200, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> > Hi alistair >> > >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Tx for the information. I will focus on 20307 then On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Stef, > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:04:31AM +0200, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> tx a lot for the summary, this is super useful :) >> I will over them later (beca

Re: [Pharo-dev] eventual crashes pharo vm

2017-08-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks I will try it on my mac Sierra and report. Stef On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:59 AM, henry wrote: > Yes, here it is, in Pharo6.1, as mentioned previously. Just run the > eventual_test tests and it will exit on Ubuntu 32-bit. > > https://ufile.io/pa9ym > > Thank you, > - HH > > > Orig

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70 ] build 36 - PR 204 Improve-comment-of-SmallDictionary

2017-08-15 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20091/Improve-comment-of-SmallDictionary https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/204

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I'm integrating 20307 and I would like to really thank you for - the bug entry description - all the comments - and tests in the PR. Tx!!! On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Tx for the information. I will focus on 20307 then > > > On Tue, Aug 15,

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70 ] build 37 - PR 206 File names should not be canonicalised by default

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20307/File-names-should-not-be-canonicalised-by-default https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/206

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70 ] build 38 - PR 199 FileReference-size-needs-a-comment

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20269/FileReference-size-needs-a-comment https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/199

Re: [Pharo-dev] Ugly smell: really long symbols/selectors

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I often use long selectors for tests :) On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: > (ByteSymbol allInstances select: [ :e | e size > 50 ]) size > "638" > (ByteSymbol allInstances select: [ :e | e size > 50 and: [ e beginsWith: > 'test' ] ]) size > "200" > > Still 438 non test sel

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo 70 ] build 39 - PR 210 20165/Support-segment-path-printing

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20165/Support-segment-path-printing https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/210 one more :)

Re: [Pharo-dev] FileSystem fix integration

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
2PM +0200, Stephane Ducasse wrote: >> I'm integrating 20307 and I would like to really thank you for >> - the bug entry description >> - all the comments >> - and tests in the PR. >> >> Tx!!! > > Thanks for your kind words. > > And for integrating

[Pharo-dev] Issue that may break Epicea

2017-08-16 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi martin https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18084/FileReference-EnsureCreateFile https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/133

Re: [Pharo-dev] Issue that may break Epicea

2017-08-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
rs are internal to the library. In my latest image > there are no Epicea users of it. > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:59 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> Hi martin >> >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18084/FileReference-EnsureCreateFi

Re: [Pharo-dev] 19609 FileReference>>base should be before last separator

2017-08-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
I do not know but I imagine that I added basenameWithoutExtension because I found the name much much clearer. I would have never guessed that base is the basename without the extension. Stef On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi All, > > I've just taken a look at issue 1960

[Pharo-dev] Lowering the pain of newbies

2017-08-17 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi guys my son coded in Pharo 60 testGuessUrlPart |dg8| dg8 := GameItem new; name: 'Dragon Quest VIII : Journey Of The Cursed King'; console: 'PS2'. self assert: dg8 guessUrlPart equals: 'dragonquestviiijourneyofthecursedking' and guess wha

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lowering the pain of newbies

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
l share for 7.0? >> >> Sort out the expert tools (like git etc), but equally enable that >> simplicity you expect for a child/newbie/expert... >> >> I'm in! >> >> Tim >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On 17 A

[Pharo-dev] Is there a way to remove the extra protocol in calypso?

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi denis The extra protocols are super confusing for newbies. Is there a setting to remove the critiques (because it flickers) from the protocols. Can we remove the overrides and inherited? I do not care to know that I overrides initialize from Object for example. When you learn a system you do n

[Pharo-dev] Little extensions to easily manage file versions

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi I really like (when I save little data files) to have a simple versioning. For example for my game collection I have Games.1.ston Games.2.ston ... and I like that this is managed for me by the system. I harvested this functionality from squeak long time ago. I rewrote it fast and dirty in Phar

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a way to remove the extra protocol in calypso?

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
MethodGroup > > > But according to your logic method icons (up/down arrows) should be disabled > too. Right now they are still managed by Nautilus method actions. To disable > them use: > > > ClyNautilusBrowserPlugin disable > > > 2017-08-18 21:07 GMT+02:00 Stephane Ducass

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a way to remove the extra protocol in calypso?

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
We should add this in a class comment and probably a menu somewhere. On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Tx denis. > > Stef > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: >> Hi Stef. >> >> Yes, you need disable plugin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a way to remove the extra protocol in calypso?

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
case we cannot access the old method definition). Stef On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > We should add this in a class comment and probably a menu somewhere. > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: >> Tx denis. >> >

[Pharo-dev] [ Pharo 70 ] Build 43 PR 208 Open-a-package-extending-a-class-via-the-extension-protocol

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20062/Open-a-package-extending-a-class-via-the-extension-protocol https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/208

Re: [Pharo-dev] Initial Feedback on Pharo 7 contribution process

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi torsten On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi, > > even when contributing to Pharo 7.0 is still very very cumbersome I was able > to sort out most of the problems and contribute already a few smaller things. Excellent. Because with my first contribution I broke filet

Re: [Pharo-dev] Is there a way to remove the extra protocol in calypso?

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Now this is not easy because the browser does not know what to display because the edited method (with the new selector is still not compiled) but we could automatically add an entry after the first carriage return because this is the moment where we know that there is potentially a new selector.

[Pharo-dev] [ Pharo 70 ] Build 44 PR 212 Add-build-number-to-SystemVersion

2017-08-18 Thread Stephane Ducasse
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/20321/Add-build-number-to-SystemVersion https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/212

Re: [Pharo-dev] Little extensions to easily manage file versions

2017-08-19 Thread Stephane Ducasse
No I will have a look :) But I also need latestVersion because you need the two: to always load the latest and save latest + 1 Stef On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Do you know that there is #nextVersion method in FileReference? > > 2017-08-18 22:04 GMT+02:00

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