Sean Glazier wrote
> I am still trying to figure out how to get a commit to a git repository
> hosted
> of bit buck to commit etc.
The simplest thing you can do is create a filetree:// repo via the
Monticello Browser pointing to your local git clone and deal with it as any
other repo.
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Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
> Yes, Metacello supports bitbucket:// repos...
N.B. IIRC I wasn't able to use it for my private projects because it doesn't
work with private repos accessed via SSH
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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> Yes, I will try to do so.
Great! Thanks :)
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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> Thanks for the push ;-)
Sure! Will you be syncing ongoingly? That is, can one depend on loading from
GH from say a config or baseline?
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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> I must update all my github st code ...
No problem. Would you update the list when GH is synced? Thanks :)
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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> What is its status and purpose? It seems to be a few versions behind the
> Config in Pharo 4.0...
I should probably add that I'm interested because I would much rather load
from GitHub via SSH than insecurely from StHub via HTTP!
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What is its status and purpose? It seems to be a few versions behind the
Config in Pharo 4.0...
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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> How am I supposed to debug that to find the typo in my giant string
> above?!
Two problems I found copy/pasting grammars from standard docs:
- Repititions (*) were prefix instead of postfix
- "\" had to be escaped to "\\"
I still wonder about de
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> - is there any specific reason that rules can't contain dashes? This seems
> pretty common.
Added by changing #grammrPEG from "Identifier <- [a-zA-Z_] [a-zA-Z0-9_]*" to
"Identifier <- [a-zA-Z_] [a-zA-Z0-9_\-]*"
Sean P. DeNig
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> I wanted to extend the Xtream grammar to handle "/d97".
Okay, I added to PEGParser class>>grammarPEG
...
/ BACKSLASH [d] [0-9]+
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> I extended PEGParserGenerator and PEGParserParser with the following:
> Es
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> I wanted to extend the Xtream grammar to handle "/d97"
I also wonder:
- is there any specific reason that rules can't contain dashes? This seems
pretty common.
- Why use <- instead of = to separate the rule name from the definition? The
standards I w
Tudor Girba-2 wrote
> If you are looking for PEG parsers, you can also try using PetitParser as
> it comes with several debugging and inspection tools.
I used Xtreams because I wanted to copy/paste the grammar from the spec
instead of rewriting it in Smalltalk. I don't think that is possible in
stepharo wrote
> Xtreams? Just to be sure is PEGParser built using Xtreams?
Yes, there's some kind of bootstrapping process but I'm not clear how it
works and haven't found any documentation.
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grammarEmailAddress
^'addrspec <- localpart "@" domain
localpart <- dotatom / quotedstring /* obs-local-part */
domain <- dotatom / domainliteral /* obs-domain */
domainliteral <- [CFWS] "[" *([FWS] dtext)
I copy-pasted the addr-spec grammar from rfc5322 and was converting it to
Xtreams format. One PITA was converting all the decimal values to hex e.g.
"%d97" -> "\x61". I wanted to extend the Xtream grammar to handle
"/d97". I extended PEGParserGenerator and PEGParserParser with the
following:
Denis Kudriashov wrote
> Do you perform it inside #defer: message?
I didn't and it was working in 4.0, but wrapping in #defer: it now works
again in 5.0
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Stephan Eggermont wrote
> Is that something to add to the spec selectentity widget?
Possibly. I'm still playing with it, though. In Magritte, there is no hook
to change the EntryCompletion class, so instead I created a DynamicOptions
class. That got me thinking that maybe an object could be
I had a situation where the completion items were being pulled from the
Internet (Google Places), and the lag was unacceptable, so I created a
subclass which only updates at a specified interval. Here it is in case you
find it useful (MIT license):
During startup, I do `UIManager default inform: aString`. It used to show a
Growl morph, but now opens a debugger. Did something change? If so, why and
how do I circumvent the debugger? Thanks.
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> My question is specifically about smalltalkhub and whether private
> projects
> are possible there
Beware: All communication with ss3 and sthub servers is unencrypted. I've
moved all private projects to BitBucket.
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Thierry Goubier wrote
> Oh, that's why you were asking for #ast versus #parseTree.
You caught me!
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Marcus Denker-4 wrote
> #ast returns a result from the cache, while #parseTree always gets a new
> one…
Ah, okay. What is the difference? That is, how/when is the cache updated?
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
> Yes, it could be better. Like always.
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I got tired of manually converting Configs into Baselines, so I wrote a
little script. You pass it the selector of a #baselineXyz: method, and it
converts it (i.e. changes the pragma, removes the blessing and repo, etc)
Hopefully you will find it useful. Cross posting to Metcello list...
Why does CompiledMethod understand both? They are in the same protocol,
produce the same kindOf result, and neither has a method comment! :/ (Pharo
4.0)
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HilaireFernandes wrote
> instance variables evaluate to nil in the bottom area of the integrated
> inspector.
There is no direct inst var access from the playground. I was initially
shocked by this as well and have had to resort to #instVarNamed: on several
occasions. On the bright side, you can
Great job!!
A few small things:
Typo: "Less is more: No type declarations, no primitive objects,no generic
types, no modifiers, no operators, no inner classes, no constructors, and no
static methods.***There*** are not needed!". There -> They
A bit opaque: "The character a and a space". We're
stepharo wrote
> this is cool
+1!
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Alistair Grant wrote
> Also my first week with Pharo, and first week with Smalltalk in over 20
> years.
How exciting! Three oldtime Smalltalkers discovering Pharo in a week... and,
letting us know :) Welcome.
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I had to think about this for a while. Let me see if I can summarize where we
are:
- I wanted to translate the pre-BaselineOf workflow of "specify loose
dependencies generally (e.g. #stable) in the #baselineXyz: method, and
precisely in the #versionAbc: method" to "specify loose dependencies
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> I am curious though why you subclasses ZnUrl. If you did not add structure
> but only behaviour you could have added some extension methods.
I implemented a ProtectedUrl, which carries around the additional
information it needs (in this case an authenticated
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> I don't think the mutability is a problem
I thought it was a no-no for an object's hash to ever change, which it would
if the path changed, no?
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= anObject
^ self class == anObject class
...
Most of the time, I've seen a test for #species, not class. This matters
because I have a custom ZnUrl subclass that I'd like to be equal to a ZnUrl
pointing to the same place.
While we're on the subject, I'm not an expert on
Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
> First, congratulations!
Thanks!!
Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
> A baseline is associated with a "git version", so there is no need to
> "pin the version down in a specific version"
Yes, but I'm not talking about a version of my main project, but a version
of a dependent
I know this is not technically a Pharo question, but I'm in China on my
honeymoon and can't access the Metacello Google group!
There was a pattern in pre-BaselineOf Metacello where one would define
dependencies loosely in the #baselineXyz:, and then pin them to a specific
version in the
kilon.alios wrote
> I have to confess because I am on MacOS I have not really cared about this
> issue so much. In any case, Sound is enabled by default
Me too, but sound was not enabled by default in #40626!
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repository: 'github://seandenigris/Monticello-Login:master/repository';
baseline: 'MonticelloLogin';
onConflict: [ :ex | ex allow ];
load.
It expects a file named .mcconfig in a user-specifiable folder (set with
`MlConfigurationFile folder: aFolder`),
Peter Uhnák wrote
> repo
> user: 'peteruhnak';
> password: '**'
> ... has no effect.
Hmm, I wonder if something changed in 5.0. I do this all the time. In fact I
wrote a small tool that picks up the credentials from a config file so I can
invoke it from the World menu
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> ok, so not infeasible but we are not there today... lets do it step by
> step.
Okay :) Thanks for thinking through this with me. I've had an idea for years
which I'm very excited about that requires this functionality, and I've been
waiting for a tool
Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote
> looking at your code…now I think that Alex answer was the right one :)
Hopefully I can convince you otherwise ;)
Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote
> in fact one should be able to open a world in a world.
That was always a wish of mine in
Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote
> please do not ask too much...
I can't help it! Pharo has spoiled me ha ha
Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote
> Reaching this state requires a huge amount of work but we are almost there
> :)
Thank you for all that work. It is exciting to hear
Aliaksei Syrel wrote
> Space is not something you want to embed in another space.
That's where you're wrong ;-) That's exactly what I want to do!
Aliaksei Syrel wrote
> Space manages UI thread, event fetching, alarms and many other low level
> stuff
Yes! That's all the stuff I want to stub out
"scheduleIn: 1" seems much more awkward than "scheduleIn: 10 seconds",
and #scheduleAt: is even clunkier - timeInMs - what's that? Unix time?
Squeak time? Wherease "#scheduleAt: '3/1/2016 6:55pm' asDateAndTime" is
perfectly clear
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I always wanted to do this in Morphic, but it made too many assumptions about
the World's environment e.g. use of globals like ActiveHand and World. I
gave it a shot (see below). The new space did appear in the current world,
but the rectangle seemed to open in the container world, not in the new
NorbertHartl wrote
> - I need to use BaselineOf instead of ConfigurationOf. Thus you cannot use
> Versionner anymore
Unfortunately. This is the biggest drag for me after switching all my
personal projects to git (GitHub for public and BitBucket for private). I
had gotten spoiled by Versionner and
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
> As promised, the survey was closed with 55 responses...
Great job on the survey and write-up! Thanks :)
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Mariano Martinez Peck wrote
>> Is that normal?
> No, it's not.
Oh good!
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote
> Can I reproduce it? If true, tell me exactly how (if you give me the image
> and tell me which VM you used, even better).
It happens consistently when I serialize via:
FLSerializer
I'm serializing about 20MB of data with Fuel and it takes about 45 seconds.
Is that normal? Can anything be done to speed things up?
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Peter Kenny wrote
> maybe Sean deNigris can help?
Does anything from this thread help?
http://forum.world.st/Music-in-Pharo-td4835737.html#a4835742
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stepharo wrote
> do you think that there
> are meta operations such as compiling code
The library reads the discovery API and compiles corresponding Pharo classes
to wrap the REST API operations.
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> Using Google service discovery API's with Pharo Smalltalk by Richard J.
> Prinz
Cool! I noticed a small bug. GoogleGmailApiUsersMessages>>#send: does not
accept an argument for the actual message. Maybe it has to do with that
requirement is defined in the Message definition?
Nicolai Hess wrote
> you can select an entry with arrow up/down and the enter key should accept
> the selected completion entry.
Ah, yes I see that now. I wanted tab completion, but it's not worth the
effort. I did a spike and it required a handful of subclasses. Enter will do
for now.
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With all the new tools - Spec, Brick, Tx, etc - what is the easiest way to do
this in Pharo 4.0? I don't have a preference for the tool as long is it
works in Morphic.
My naive attempt failed:
applicants := PaPerson list collect: #name.
entryCompletion := EntryCompletion new
>From Günter Khyo:
Günter Khyo wrote
> Hello!
>
> I want to replace particular nodes of an AST (such as Assignments or Self
> sends) with my own nodes.
> Is there an easy (high-level) way to do this without being familiar with
> the entire compiler infrastructure?
>
> The problem I am having is
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
> I fixed it:
Cool! Thanks :)
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EstebanLM wrote
> with this script (from squeaksource to github):
For a Smalltalk solution, I've wrapped and tweaked the original MC script
that was floating around on the lists. It needs a cleanup and won't work on
Windows because I used NBMacShell, but could easily be cleaned up if others
find
philippeback wrote
FWIW, the TilingWindowManager has some support for this.
Not sure how it behaves in 4.x|5.x
Sean did some fixes IIRC.
Sorry, I was on holidays… Yes, TWM supports multi-desktops, but it's been
buggy since Pharo 4.0 and I've never tried on 5.0.
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Yes, it should work with the right font
Thanks to all! Yes, changing the default font to e.g. Arial Unicode MS
did the trick for e.g. GT Inspector display, and changing the code font to
same made pasting work as expected.
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Can I e.g. paste Chinese characters from a web page and save as data? I don't
need to be able to use Chinese characters for code. I see pasting creates a
wide string but the characters do not display. I assume this is because my
font does not support them, but in the Settings Browser I only see 3
Ben Coman wrote
Unless your requirements *specifically* need identical files to be
maintained as duplicates, I would strongly consider using something
content based like MD5 or SHA
Interesting... There should not be any duplicates. What's the advantage over
UUID?
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Searching the archives, I found an interesting comment [1]:
I think the UUIDGenerator in the image produces UUIDs which are good
enough for MC. - Levente Uzonyi
I am pretty well confused by UUIDs in general (they seem magical) and
Pharo's implementation. The use case I have in mind is a file
Does anyone have experience with accepting drops of file types which are not
supported by default? On StackOverflow [1], it was shown how to do this in
Cocoa:
```
[window registerForDraggedTypes:[NSArray
arrayWithObjects:(NSString*)kPasteboardTypeFileURLPromise,nil]];
```
but do I really need to
Peter Uhnák wrote
If you paste that link into GTSpotter, it automatically offers you the
option to open playground on it (eg. try
pasting into GTSpotter http://ws.stfx.eu/923KR0YD1BRU ).
[OT]Wow![/OT]
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Metacello. How are you handling this? Are you somehow dynamically doing a
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Thierry Goubier wrote
I don't know how to do the same with Jenkins.
This sounds promising:
https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Multi-Branch+Project+Plugin
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When using any tool that exposes objects outside the image - Seaside, Amber,
rST - how does one guard against simultaneous edits? Up until now, I've been
perfectly content with single images and read-only web apps, but now that
I'm considering some stateful web apps/services, I can't remember ever
1. What is the status of this project
(http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Seamless.html)? I see the last commit is in
April. Does it work?
2. Can the communication be done securely? If I had two images each running
on a server in a different physical location, could they communicate over
something like
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote
Would be nice to have a test case that covers your case..
I can send you privately an image and the fuel file if you'd like...
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While materializing, I'm getting a Fuel error that's ground one of my
projects to a halt. Luckily, there's not *too* much data involved, but I'd
like to get it back.
http://forum.world.st/file/n4840866/Screenshot_2015-08-03_19.png
Ever see anything like this? Any idea what the problem is?
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote
Those kind of errors...
Thanks for the detailed answer!
It seems that anObsoleteXyz snuck into my graph :/ Once I replaced it with
the-class-I-thought-it-was, everything straightened out.
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vmusulainen wrote
http://pharo.org/news/garage-database
I'm also confused. What is the relationship between OpenDBX and Garage? IIRC
DBXTalk was the previous name of OpenDBX, right? Maybe an FAQ is in order as
the DB-related names seem to be multiplying ;)
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jecisc wrote
If you compile only 1 chapter in LaTeX then you will only have the
numbering of the chapter.
If you compile the whole book you will have the numbering of all chapters.
This seems to come up quite a bit. Can we add a parameter to specify the
numbering when only compiling one
Andy Jones wrote
since the instructions at
http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#64-bit-System-Setup seem to be out
of date...
Note that there is no ia32-libs package on Jessie, as far as I can tell.
The instructions, under Ubuntu 14.04 and Later, link to
Jose San Leandro wrote
If an opinion from a newcomer is useful, I'm not so obsessed about how
popular Smalltalk is.
Very useful, and not just a newbie opinion. On the Amber list, Richard Eng,
who is working to make Smalltalk mainstream, was disappointed by his blog
post stats. I responded in
There are several tools: Aconcagua, Money, Units; and at least two classes to
overcome the imprecision of Floats: ScaledDecimal, FixedDecimal...
I found one thread where Hernan said they use Aconcagua [1], another from
Squeak implying that ScaledDecimal is broken [2]. A third seemed to say that
Hannes Hirzel wrote
I wonder where...https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/?
The community server is at https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/ . There
is a link to it on the left menu of the link you gave.
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Martin Bähr wrote
did smalltalk miss its chance, so we should give up?
or is it still coming? glass bowl anyone?
Using Unix - which took 50 years to takeover the world - as a metric, we
should be hitting our stride in about 2030 ;)
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Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote
As I showed at ESUG..., it allows building a simple form app for
smartphones using PhoneGap.
Ah, very cool use case. Is there a video?
Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote
(we missed you BTW)
I just got married, but hopefully will be back next year. Much of my work
seems to be
Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote
The main difference is that with PharoJS we develop and test in Pharo,
with the confort of all cool tools such as the GT inspector, spotter :-)
Wow!!! That is my main pain point with Amber. Unless one is very disciplined
with TDD, the linkage between the app loaded in
Noury Bouraqadi-2 wrote
Regarding the naming PharoJS is more than a bridge. It allows:
-Develop and test apps in Pharo
-Generate a javascript file for a standalone app
How does it compare to Amber? Similar use case?
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Leo Noordhuizen wrote
I should have mentioned that I already had tried the described
installtionprocedure.
Which procedure did you follow? Maybe we have to update instructions
somewhere?
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does TWMBar showTWMBar: true. Are they equivalent? Or should something be
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Hannes Hirzel wrote
though Amber is said to be Pharo compatible there are some problems which
I
have to resolve first.
Pharo is the reference implementation, but is a subset. I guess technically
that's compatible, but compatible is vague enough to be easily
misleading...
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stepharo wrote
Polling is a bad idea from an architecture point of view. And dated :)
While in this case that might be true (I haven't looked at the code), IMHO
it's overstated to say that polling is always a bad idea. For exploratory
spikes, mockups, throwaway tools, etc it can be very useful.
stepharo wrote
Interactive table support in Pharo
Wow!
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Ben Coman wrote
I find myself liking the last two... Actually... maybe using
exampleCode
together with
sampleInstance
will distinguish the most between the two cases
I agree that any of those would be fine. I kind of like your last
suggestion, in fact.
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Stephan Eggermont wrote
Screenshot from 2015-06-30 22:46:08.png (110K)
lt;http://forum.world.st/attachment/4834997/0/Screenshot%20from%202015-06-30%2022%3A46%3A08.pnggt;
I'm not following. What is the screenshot? A working app in the browser? an
exported read-only view?
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Exported read-only view, synchronized every second with the Morphic
cardwall
Not bad! I judge that 7/10 on the coolness scale between my two options :)
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Peter Uhnák wrote
It seems that
sample
is then the go-to naming for now
I agree with Ben that from a native English perspective, exemplar doesn't
quite sound right.
Sample and Example are the two words that most clearly capture the intent.
The problem with using #sample to return instances
MerwanOuddane wrote
You should just replace it with a StringMorph and figure out how to
update the morph right on time :)
It seems like there should be Morph#addAlarm:every:, but I don't see
anything like that...
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Does anything exist to handle uses of #storeOn: that bump into the literal
limit? E.g. that splits the offending constructor method into several
methods? Thanks.
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Peter Kenny wrote
allows the specification of a node factory to provide custom handling of
nodes
Sound like exactly what I had in mind! Although, now that I've played with
it, I realize that most of the web scraping use cases that I've encountered
seem like they could really benefit from a
Jigyasa Grover wrote
Could anyone pls help so as to how could I use the 'getText' method to
retrieve the user input string.
The best Smalltalk teacher is usually the image :) Browsing references to
PluggableTextFieldMorph (cmd-shift-N on Mac), it seems that many users send
Sergio Fedi wrote
If something is a tag, then you should be able to apply multiple tags to
something.
If not, then they are, as you say, subpackages.
Agreed. Actually, tags are more interesting as they would be much more
valuable to users, who want a logical domain view of the system.
Esteban A. Maringolo wrote
two identical dates do not match, the reason? The internal start of
aDate
(Timespan) is a DateAndTime, and as such has a timezone offset.
Welcome to hell ;)
12147 Date#= fooled by daylight savings time
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12147
mtk wrote
a class (
/
WindowsStore(FileSystemStore)
/
) is calling '
/
ensureCreateDirectory: aPath
/
' where aPath points to the Path of my Windows System.
I experienced something similar on a Mac when I renamed the Launcher bundle,
but couldn't figure out how to reproduce it...
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jecisc wrote
- You save your changes on the project's smalltalkhub...
[INSERT HERE]
- You resolve the case on foxbugz
and you put the case in Resolved (Fixed upstream)
I would add above: create a new configuration yourself and copy it to the
Inbox. When you resolve the issue in Fogbugz, add
Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
I am sure you will blog about this !
Yes, pleeease!!
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Cheers,
Sean
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stepharo wrote
My computer is not just Computer your phone is not just Phone :)
Well the name iPhone is actually pretty much just Phone! Also, note that
it's not called iConchShell ;) And, the apps it contains are called
Messages, Mail, and Phone. Similarly, Pharo is our brand, and within the
Peter Kenny wrote
I will have to convert all my files to the new version? As far as I can
see, I could not do that using
the device you suggest
The thing is that it's only the serialization that is tied to a Fuel
version, so the workflow is (and I've done this to port my data from Pharo
3.0
Peter Kenny wrote
My question is what should I have done?
There is usually an overlap between the Fuel versions loadable in
consecutive Pharo versions, so you have to either (via Metacello) upgrade
the Fuel in your source image, or downgrade in the target image, so that you
can save and move the
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