Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

That's awesome and it reminds me that I need to make a baselineof for all my fav tools so that I load them when I grab a new image, as I don't have calypso loaded on my lambda experimental image. Tim Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Jul 2017, at 16:55, Denis Kudriashov

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Hi Tim. Just remembered this thread. In latest Calypso you are able select multiple classes and switch to hierarchy. It will show "composite" hierarchy of all classes instead of single one. So if you select all classes (cmd+a) you will get desired behaviour, 2016-12-27 17:44 GMT+01:00 Tim

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2017-02-01 14:56 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > As an extra data point - dolphin and visual age both work this way (maybe > even visual works?) and I never saw it as a problem - which is why I was > surprised that Pharo is different - however I know you guys often think >

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2017-02-01 14:56 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > Hi Denis - as an argument in favour, you would only see this view when you > select the Hierarchy button (so its not the default) - and by pressing > hierarchy, I would argue that you want to see a hierarchy of all the > classes (like

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Hi Denis - as an argument in favour, you would only see this view when you select the Hierarchy button (so its not the default) - and by pressing hierarchy, I would argue that you want to see a hierarchy of all the classes (like you see all the classes in non-hierchy mode) - if there is lots of

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2017-01-05 12:11 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > I finally got a chance to try this change out - and this a super helpful > change - thanks so much. (It also taught me where some of the things live > in Pharo). > > Why wouldn’t this change be made permanent in the live Pharo? I

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

I finally got a chance to try this change out - and this a super helpful change - thanks so much. (It also taught me where some of the things live in Pharo). Why wouldn’t this change be made permanent in the live Pharo? I can’t see any downside and it really helps understand new code. Tim >

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Ah, cool I will give that a go. As always it's very little code when you know how. I'll report back - but I wonder if this might be something that could be in the default image? Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Dec 2016, at 11:49, Henrik Nergaard wrote: > > Changing

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

My recollection of VA is that classes in other packages show up as a lighter grey colour, if you choose to see the full hierarchy (I think dolphin and ow do something similar too) I guess what threw me was the hierarchy button in pharo just shows what I want for a single class and not for all

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2016-12-28 17:23 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > However the example I was looking at was a package that had a series of > Announcement subclasses, AND what wasn't obvious was that they were all > subclasses of the same parent "Announcement", as that isn't shown - you > just get a

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

This seems to have generated a bit of conversation which has helped me quite a bit. Denis, your picture has made me realise that the System browser is a bit better than I realised. However the example I was looking at was a package that had a series of Announcement subclasses, AND what wasn't

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2016-12-28 13:13 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov : > 2016-12-28 12:23 GMT+01:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de < > jtuc...@objektfabrik.de>: > >> In VA, you also see the full hierarchy, inpependent of package (which is >> called Application in VAST/Envy). So VAST and VW seem to be

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2016-12-28 12:23 GMT+01:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de : > In VA, you also see the full hierarchy, inpependent of package (which is > called Application in VAST/Envy). So VAST and VW seem to be pretty similar > here. Then it is not too much different from Pharo. We just

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

In such mode are shown subclasses of OrderedCollection depends on selected package? What will happen if you select another package? In VW for example it looks same but class hierarchy is just full hierarchy of selected class without any restriction from selected package. Selecting package just

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Denis, Am 28.12.16 um 11:06 schrieb Denis Kudriashov: I think nobody say about "bad idea". We just not understand desired view. Could you show some screenshots? here's what you see in VA Smalltalk when you open the Hierarchy of OrderedCollection

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2016-12-28 11:01 GMT+01:00 jtuc...@objektfabrik.de : > Not sure if Tim wants that, but at least that is the exact way things are > in VAST. Opening the hierarchy Browser on a class shows the whole tree up > to Object and down the whole subtree. I use this very often and

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Am 28.12.16 um 10:08 schrieb Ben Coman: Tim, I guess you are wanting to see the hierarchical view of classes outside the current package, but how high do you want to go? Eventually you reach Object. So are you expecting to see *every* class in the hierarchical view? Not sure if Tim

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: >> >> >> 2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : >>> >>> Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > >> Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see >> >> A >> +B >> +C >> +D >> > > In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

2016-12-27 23:27 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > Eg, if a package had classes A, B, C, D - I wish I could see > > A > +B > +C > +D > In Pharo it will be shown exactly like this by default. No need to press hier. But I guess there is something else. Anyway let's try with

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Hi Denis - I went to look at an early squeak version and I think I was mistaken, properly drawn hierarchies were in VA and OW Smalltalks as well as Dolphin. Pharo doesn't do this well at all - pressing the hierarchy ,button draws the hierarchy for the selected class only - even though you may

Re: [Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Hi. 2016-12-27 17:44 GMT+01:00 Tim Mackinnon : > What confuses me, is his I can see the hire hybrid the classes in relation > to each other? The hier button just shows the hierarchy of the selected > class and not in relation to the others? > > I'm sure at some point pharo and

[Pharo-users] How to view hierarchy of multiple classes in a package?

Hi guys - I'm trying to get back into pharo, and check out the advances in v5. Anyway, if I look at a package in the system browser, it shows me classes in that package (i think my terminology is right here?). What confuses me, is his I can see the hire hybrid the classes in relation to each