Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-27 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Adam, This is a nice idea. Please keep us informed with your latest version before I can comment a bit :) On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Adam wrote: > Dne Po 26. října 2015 17:26:55, Esteban A. Maringolo napsal(a): > > Magritte could be categorized as meta-modelling. > > OK. > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Serge Stinckwich
Great job ! This could be a great poster ;-) Maybe you have to put Pharo Logo in the middle and enhance the fonts of different topics in blue circle (Server, Data, etc ...) so the people can read them more easily. Regards, On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Adam wrote: > Hello, > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread stepharo
You can safely remove Marina. It is unmaintained, undocumented and not finished. I did not see Fuel. Could be close to STON Would be nice to have parsers Smacc OMeta PetitParser Le 25/10/15 20:23, Adam a écrit : Hello, next update. I tried to follow all sugestions - but not all

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Adam
Dne Po 26. října 2015 16:19:36, stepharo napsal(a): > You can safely remove Marina. > It is unmaintained, undocumented and not finished. > OK > I did not see Fuel. Could be close to STON > Would be nice to have parsers > Smacc > OMeta > PetitParser > Fuel is under Data - Storing

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Magritte could be categorized as meta-modelling. PostgreSQL, Magma, MongoDB, etc should be Databases. Persistency should include Voyage, GLORP, SandstoneDB, etc. Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-10-26 17:19 GMT-03:00 stepharo : > You can safely remove Marina. > It is unmaintained,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Adam
Thanks for all comments. Dne Po 26. října 2015 12:18:31, Hernán Morales Durand napsal(a): > 2015-10-26 11:08 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman : > > Thanks Adam. This is a great initiative. I really like the > > internal/external distinction. > > > > A few questions... > > > > Why is

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Adam
Dne Po 26. října 2015 17:26:55, Esteban A. Maringolo napsal(a): > Magritte could be categorized as meta-modelling. OK. > > PostgreSQL, Magma, MongoDB, etc should be Databases. > Persistency should include Voyage, GLORP, SandstoneDB, etc. Sounds good. Still I em wondering about "Server" circle

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks Adam. This is a great initiative. I really like the internal/external distinction. A few questions... Why is "Compilers" outside the circle? What is the "VB" part of "VB-Regex" ? and a few suggestions... > About categories I would group in different way but it's personal choice. >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2015-10-26 11:08 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman : > Thanks Adam. This is a great initiative. I really like the > internal/external distinction. > > A few questions... > > Why is "Compilers" outside the circle? > > What is the "VB" part of "VB-Regex" ? > > Vassili Bykov was the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-26 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Adam's message of 2015-10-26 01:23:09 +0100: > Pharo is mostly development platform, and image shows mostly libraries and > frameworks for development, but "Development" circle in the image is more > about tools primarly targeted to support process of development. So, if Gofer >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-24 Thread Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Adam's message of 2015-10-23 23:58:48 +0200: > I just updated drawing of projects around Pharo. > > Main idea is to guide people (new users of Pharo) through fields of interests > - something they might be looking for. I choose these 10 fields devided into > some specific

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-24 Thread Adam
Wow, thanks for great feedback to everyone. I will try to modify drawings by your sugestions. Here is few questions: - Aida web framework is ready for Pharo? In Pharo Catalog it is labeled as unstable. - FFI by this:

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-24 Thread Ferlicot D. Cyril
Le 24/10/2015 09:27, stepharo a écrit : > Superb! Really nice > Margritte -> Magritte > Mondorian -> Mondrian > > to add > > Never heard about PharoLink but you should have Garage (a database > generic API) > > You could add MongoTalk close to Voyage > > GLORP > Relational > Mapper >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-24 Thread stepharo
Superb! Really nice Margritte -> Magritte Mondorian -> Mondrian to add Never heard about PharoLink but you should have Garage (a database generic API) You could add MongoTalk close to Voyage GLORP Relational Mapper Woden 3D Roassal3D Omnibrowser is deprecated I would put

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-23 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
Hello Adam, Some feedback about the visualization: - The OmniBrowser is not supported anymore in Pharo. You could add Nautilus which is the browser implementation (but not a browser library). - Monticello, Gofer and Metacello could be closer. I think Versionner and FileTree (or GitFileTree)

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-23 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Adam, Thanks for this work. It helps a lot. Some suggestions: - I would put "(beginners) education" instead of learning for DrGeo and Phratch - I would add AidaWeb to the Web Development spot and put Import/Export and output near to data, because is closer to the path I have taken in my

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family update

2015-10-23 Thread Ferlicot D. Cyril
Le 23/10/2015 23:58, Adam a écrit : > Hello, > > I just updated drawing of projects around Pharo. > > Main idea is to guide people (new users of Pharo) through fields of interests > - something they might be looking for. I choose these 10 fields devided into > some specific subjects. Somewhere

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-05 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
well, we have http://catalog.pharo.org who was there as a temporal solution who does not seems to be going away this year… so it can be enhanced to provide grouping/better links/etc. easily, I think. Esteban > On 05 Oct 2015, at 19:38, Volkert wrote: > > I

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-05 Thread Adam
Both would be good. I have find catalog You mentioned, but it lacks grouping and also it has too many projects. It would be good to have structured catalog of almost all projects. But I think that map of main projects will be also very useful especially to newcommers. Adam. Dne Po 5. října

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-05 Thread Volkert
I would be happy if Pharo as something like this https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/Projects or this https://github.com/h4cc/awesome-elixir. That is not exactly what you have in mind, but I think this can be combined with your meta information. BW, Volkert On 05.10.2015 00:10, Adam wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-05 Thread stepharo
Have a look at the book EntreprisePharo: a web perspective it will help you get some names :) Le 4/10/15 01:54, a...@234.cz a écrit : Hello, I just did a quick scatch of some projects, frameworks and concepts related to Pharo. I did it because I em confused of the cloud of projects around

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Adam wrote: > I move the map into github in textual file for completing it before drawing > it: https://github.com/AdamSadovsky/pharo-family > - Zinc is now inside > - More circles can be added. I generalized it under "position", so You can > change it

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-04 Thread Ben Coman
Interesting idea. Some feedback: * "Zinc" should probably be inside the circle * "SUnit" seems to have greater emphasis, such that for a moment it seemed that this was the label for everything in the circle. * Later it might be interesting to have several circles, showing what is in bootstrap and

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-04 Thread Volkert
+1 i like the idea of a pharo capability map with all the related projects and framework. i have the same feeling as you. For a newcomer its is really hard get a picture of what is behind the plenty strange framework names. A structured list of the main frameworks with a short description

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-04 Thread Adam
I move the map into github in textual file for completing it before drawing it: https://github.com/AdamSadovsky/pharo-family - Zinc is now inside - More circles can be added. I generalized it under "position", so You can change it into something else then "inside image". I dont even know what

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo family

2015-10-04 Thread Adam
as You suggested I prepared list of projects in github. I was not able to add it into pharo-project, so I created it under my account. https://github.com/AdamSadovsky/pharo-family Still it is very incomplete version. More projects can be included, more details can be added. And moreover