[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Am 06.10.20 um 22:41 schrieb Tim Mackinnon: Gosh - this is proving much more interesting than I had imagined, and I’m getting lots of useful input, so I double appreciate the time and thoughts from everyone. I probably should have said that my "super awesome idea" is just a little flashcard

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Pierce Ng
On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 09:41:21PM +0100, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Anyway, that login screen… oh crap I have to write one of those… For Seaside, there is TF-Login. And oh, it rolled its own file-based versioning object persistence. Version that I ported to Pharo 7 and Seaside 3.3: -

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, I have been using STON and Fossil for persistance and I'm pretty happy with this combination as a future proof, simple and even reproducible solution for my storage needs, including web hosting. For example, for our last project about IndieWeb with pocket infrastructures[1], a STON powered

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
On 6/10/20 2:25 p. m., jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: >>> - Choose Boring Technology - http://boringtechnology.club/ >> This made my day. Thank you :-) > > Had never heard of this guy, but his site feels like home to me. Makes > me a proud user of Smalltalk and DB2 after 25+ years ;-) > > He

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Oh.. and blimey , look what I just found in my spam bucket “they are watching me… “ - > "We are excited to announce the General Availability of DigitalOcean App Platform , a reimagined platform as a service (PaaS) that makes it much

[Pharo-users] [Ann] IndieWeb and pocket infrastructures: 5th biweekly workshop this Saturday (3:15 PM - 7:15 PM, GMT-5)

2020-10-06 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi all, This is just a short reminder about our biweekly Grafoscopio community workshops about IndieWeb and pocket infrastructures (in Spanish). You can find more information about them on: [1] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/doc/trunk/docs/es/index.html#talleres It has been really

[Pharo-users] Re: Standalone html builder (a la seaside without seaside?)

2020-10-06 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Yes, see https://github.com/pharo-contributions/XML-XMLWriter   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. September 2020 um 16:42 Uhr Von: "monty" An: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Betreff: [Pharo-users] Re: Standalone html builder (a la seaside without seaside?) Yes, XMLWriter can do this. Use can also use:  

[Pharo-users] [ANN] HighchartsSt v12.1.0 [v12.1.0] released!

2020-10-06 Thread Buenos Aires Smalltalk
HighchartsSt, a highcharts js api wrapper for pharo smalltalk reached it's v12.1.0 version. Changelog Updated Highcharts and Highstock to 8.2.0 Separated series into their own packages to reduce loading bloat when working with only a few of them Regards, The Buenos Aires Smalltalk team

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Gosh - this is proving much more interesting than I had imagined, and I’m getting lots of useful input, so I double appreciate the time and thoughts from everyone. I probably should have said that my "super awesome idea" is just a little flashcard spelling app for my daughter (and possibly a

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Sean, thanks for your short overview of what SimplePersistence does. Sounds useful for quite a few scenarios and might even carry you well through production stages for some projects. What I was talking about is also not meant to frustrate people. I've only played with Mongo/Voyage for a few

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
- Choose Boring Technology - http://boringtechnology.club/ This made my day. Thank you :-) Had never heard of this guy, but his site feels like home to me. Makes me a proud user of Smalltalk and DB2 after 25+ years ;-) He forgot to mention that boring technology can be quite interesting and

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
If you want to use docker there's https://github.com/ba-st/docker-pharo and others that I don't remembar now that provides the basics. You have some examples in https://github.com/ba-st/docker-pharo/blob/master/docs/Examples.md . We're deploying our apps as docker containers so ask any question

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Hi Tim, I think that the persistence you choose will depend heavily on a few things: - The complexity of the objects graphs in your domain models - This architecture of your system - How these objects/data is acceded (Atomically/In clusters) In any case, for a lightweight solution you go the

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Esteban Maringolo
Hi Pierce, On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 10:22 PM Pierce Ng wrote: > On Mon, Oct 05, 2020 at 11:23:25PM +0100, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Many options. Great time sinks. :-) Have fun. > > > - Choose Boring Technology - http://boringtechnology.club/ This made my day. Thank you :-) Esteban A. Maringolo

[Pharo-users] [Offtopic] Documentary Project

2020-10-06 Thread Eric Gade
Fellow Squeakers and Pharo-ers, Please forgive me if this message is inappropriate for the list. I am hoping you all will be interested in the following project. For the past year and a half I have been working on a team that is developing a documentary

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Sean P. DeNigris via Pharo-users
jtuchel wrote > Sigh. Forget about the idea that it will be easy to switch your > persistence laterI am not commenting on SimplePersistence here, I > don't even know what it > does or doesn't. Joachim, Thanks for this interesting perspective. I've never had the (mis?!)fortune of a project

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Tim, Am 06.10.20 um 14:47 schrieb Tim Mackinnon: Some great answers everyone - really appreciate it. I think that all things considered, SimplePersistence seems like a very easy place to start, and then I can "upgrade" when my super awesome idea (not), exceeds its bounds. Sigh. Forget

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Some great answers everyone - really appreciate it. I think that all things considered, SimplePersistence seems like a very easy place to start, and then I can "upgrade" when my super awesome idea (not), exceeds its bounds. I wonder if these answers should go somewhere in a tips section

[Pharo-users] Re: Energy efficiency of Pharo/Smalltalk

2020-10-06 Thread Jonathan van Alteren
Hi Mariano, Thanks for your response! I will take a look at the presentation. I was hoping for some more concrete experience with the Green Software Lab benchmark. It's not a priority at the moment, but hopefully I'll get back to this in the near future. I'll report back with any findings.

[Pharo-users] Re: Easiest light weight cloud/web persistence for Pharo?

2020-10-06 Thread Jonathan van Alteren
Hi Tim, I've been running Seaside applications on Hetzner cloud servers for more than a year now, with great pleasure and success: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud I guess their servers are similar to Digital Ocean, although I haven't followed the development of their products and solutions for