[Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread Bahman Movaqar
Hi all, I just downloaded Pharo 2.0 on a Windows machine, unpacked it, ran it and from the world menu selected System - Software Update but bumped into an exception: stacktrace Error: Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel GoferConfigurationReference(Object)error:

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread kilon alios
no you dont do anything wrong, unfortunately from what I have been told the update process is broken. Right now the best choices is to download directly from pharo website http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download this will get you the latest release from the version you choose there is also

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 03 Nov 2013, at 10:54, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: no you dont do anything wrong, unfortunately from what I have been told the update process is broken. Right now the best choices is to download directly from pharo website The problem is that how images are used is

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 03 Nov 2013, at 12:37, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: When we move to an image-bootstrap for the development of Pharo itself (I guess in Pharo4), we should really check what and how (and if) we support updating existing images, or if we declare the image to be something

[Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread MartinW
Just a thought on the discussions about Smalltalkhub beeing down and people would love to use Gibhub instead: I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free. And there is all this talk about building a business with Pharo - why not make a business from Smalltalkhub? The thought of

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi. You’re right in general. But for me the main question is: can Monticello work well? This thing was not evolving for years. Something has to be done. Uko On 03 Nov 2013, at 13:22, MartinW w...@fastmail.fm wrote: Just a thought on the discussions about Smalltalkhub beeing down and people

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
2013/11/2 b...@openinworld.com Sergi Reyner wrote: - Tried and somewhat succeeded in building my GUI with Spec, which apparently doesn't know about images. As a new framework, sometimes it is just a use-case that has not been considered or prioritized. If you can describe your situation

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Kilon wrote I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find little justification to not support Github. But then I am not against Smalltalkhub or other repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrier. I see some very strong arguments against depending on github: - it

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
But why? On 03 Nov 2013, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Kilon wrote I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find little justification to not support Github. But then I am not against Smalltalkhub or other repos being available to Pharo. The more

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-11-03, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Kilon wrote I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find little justification to not support Github. But then I am not against Smalltalkhub or other repos being available to Pharo. The more the

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread kilon alios
You will need to explain because I don't understand what you mean by centralized vs distributed , does not support working at the right granularity. Influence the way Github goes is besides the point at this point since we dont have a better alternative and I will be a great oracle to predict ,

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Monticello is quite good, especially with Metacello associated to it. I'd like to have the MetacelloToolBox working nicely with FTP repos and will spend a while on that in the coming weeks, but frankly, that's great to use to keep things in sync. I'd pay for STH but for private projects and with

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
I always joke that he forgot “The only way to have a future is to finish something” ;-) “One of the sad memories of my life is a visit to the celebrated mathematician and inventor, Mr Babbage. He was far advanced in age, but his mind was still as vigorous as ever. He took me through his

Re: [Pharo-users] Building a simple UI with Spec. Problem with menus.

2013-11-03 Thread Benjamin
Hello and welcome :) On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:36, nacho 0800na...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group. I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI framework from Pharo 3

Re: [Pharo-users] Building a simple UI with Spec. Problem with menus.

2013-11-03 Thread Benjamin
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:05, b...@openinworld.com wrote: nacho wrote: Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group. I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to understand how Spec works. It seems that Spec will be the default UI framework from Pharo 3 onwards, I know

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread kilon alios
I fail to see how Windows prohibited iPhone from appearing or anything in my quote saying that. They are not even in the same market. Well there is windows mobile and now windows 8 for phones and tablets but both are far from monopoly products. Plus iPhone is not even an OS unless you were

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:17, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:11, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: I fail to see how Windows prohibited iPhone from appearing or anything in my quote saying that. They are not even in the same market. Yet, that old

Re: [Pharo-users] Building a simple UI with Spec. Problem with menus.

2013-11-03 Thread nacho
Thanks for your prompt responses. I guess the wise advise is...wait a little but I seldom follow the wise advice so I will continue to try to solve this ;) I've been trying with ComposableModel#WindowModel with no luck as it seems that though the method is implemented in #WindowModel it seems to

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread kilon alios
Are those the same people that a decade ago were proclaiming Java dead ? It only takes a walk to TIOBE INDEX to see how much of a threat mobile market is to desktop. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html I am sure Angry Birds and Candy Crash Saga are substantial

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
On 03 Nov 2013, at 19:33, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Are those the same people that a decade ago were proclaiming Java dead ? It only takes a walk to TIOBE INDEX to see how much of a threat mobile market is to desktop.

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] moving moose to pharo 3.0

2013-11-03 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-11-03, at 21:11, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, We essentially finished moving Moose to Pharo 3.0 (we still have 6 yellow tests but they needed attention anyway). It took about 4 people looking into issues for a total probably around 2 man-days of effort. The largest

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Benjamin
I think I missed the beginning of this thread :) So my question is what do you want to do ? :) I tried your ImageSpecTest, and after a minor fix, it opens :) But expect displaying an ImageMorph, it is not really usable :) Ben On 03 Nov 2013, at 21:37, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
El 03/11/2013 21:45, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com escribió: I think I missed the beginning of this thread :) So my question is what do you want to do ? :) I want to have a way to get an AlphaImageMorph linked to a ValueHolder(?) holding a Form(?), and having it update

Re: [Pharo-users] Building a simple UI with Spec. Problem with menus.

2013-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi I will integrate some fixes now. Stef Hello and welcome :) On 03 Nov 2013, at 18:36, nacho 0800na...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, this is my first post in the Pharo group. I'm developing a simple Text Editor with some nice features as a way to understand how Spec works. It seems that

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

2013-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
+1 Pharo should be Pharo :) And we should all push in that direction - minimal core - sweet integration with the rest of the world - objects - cool libraries I think that we should be passionate about what we are doing. Look at Scala for example. It’s becoming

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Sergi could you sign the Pharo license agreement and send it to us (scanned for example)? Stef On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote: El 03/11/2013 21:45, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com escribió: I think I missed the beginning of this

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
Sent to your mail, Stef! 2013/11/3 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Sergi could you sign the Pharo license agreement and send it to us (scanned for example)? Stef On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:10 PM, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote: El 03/11/2013 21:45, Benjamin

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Bahman, Hi, Fuel was moved some time ago from SS3 to SmalltalkHub. Could it be that it was searching ConfigurationOfFuel in SS3? On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Bahman Movaqar bah...@bahmanm.com wrote: Hi all, I just downloaded Pharo 2.0 on a Windows machine, unpacked it, ran it and from

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
tx and archived! And your enh is in the new integration :) On Nov 4, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote: Sent to your mail, Stef! 2013/11/3 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Sergi could you sign the Pharo license agreement and send it to us (scanned

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Sergi Reyner
2013/11/4 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr tx and archived! And your enh is in the new integration :) Yay! Scratching an itch and contributing something feels great :)

Re: [Pharo-users] Yet another building a GUI question

2013-11-03 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/11/4 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr tx and archived! And your enh is in the new integration :) Yay! Scratching an itch and contributing something feels great :) :) Yes pay attention when you start

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 04 Nov 2013, at 00:01, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: But marcus we are doing update all the time because this is the way we push new updates daily. So I do not understand why this would be different? It happens due to strange things: updates that access the web and

Re: [Pharo-users] Updating Pharo 2 - Unable to resolve ConfigurationOfFuel

2013-11-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On 04 Nov 2013, at 08:26, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 04 Nov 2013, at 00:01, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: But marcus we are doing update all the time because this is the way we push new updates daily. So I do not understand why this would be