Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-25 Thread Stéphane Ducasse 
Hi michael

I discussed with guille and pablo and they told me that this happens to them 
from time to time and this is related to 
libgit. Guille said that they do not succeed to reproduce it. 
They hope that moving to libgit1.0 will fix that problem. We are worried about 
this and we would love to have a reproducible case.

S

Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse 


> On 23 May 2020, at 22:57, Michael Burns  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Stéphane:
> 
> Sorry I did not answer your questions below earlier.   I often see your mails 
> on my iPad while having coffee.
> By the time I got to my computer I had forgotten. 

don;t worry for me emails are by definition late bound. 
> 
> Answers below marked MKB: 
> 
>> On May 23, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi michael
>> 
>> I’m sincerly sad about the bad experience you encounter (especially when I 
>> see how stable is the system on my 
>> machine — and I’m a bug magnet for any software — everything crashes with me 
>> — sadly enough).
>> 
>>> 
>>> I had been following the Developing a simple counter chapter.
>>> All was well.
>>> I created an iceberg repository and added my Project to it.
>>> I committed the sources to git.
>>> Still working OK.
>>> Then I did a push of all that to my GitHub/MichaelKentBurns/MyCounter 
>>> repository.
>>> I got a progress bar for the push which never made any progress.  
>> 
>> Can you tell us what is your OS?
>>  version
> 
> MKB: MacOS 10.15.4.

Oh this is strange because most of the crew here is using mac (or linux or 
windows) :)

> 
>>  pharo version
> 
> MKB: Pharo 8.0.0
> Build information: 
> Pharo-8.0.0+build.1124.sha.0932da82f08175e906b0e2a8052120c823374e9f (64 Bit)
> 
> 
>> 
>> Can you commit from the command line?
> 
> MKB: Yes, I’ve used git from a shell and several git Gui clients for years.
> I started earlier (before I was introduced to Iceberg) by filing out my 
> classes into the top level of a git repo for this project.
> Then I can commit and push from there to GitHub
> 
>> 
>> Are you using ssh or Https?
> 
> MKB:  I have probably used ssh, but more likely https.
> 
>> 
>> If ssh are you using an agent?
> 
> MKB: Not sure what you mean.  Not that I’m aware of.


I use an ssh-agent to not have to retype my login.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-23 Thread Michael Burns via Pharo-users 
--- Begin Message ---
Thanks Stéphane:

Sorry I did not answer your questions below earlier.   I often see your mails 
on my iPad while having coffee.
By the time I got to my computer I had forgotten. 

Answers below marked MKB: 

> On May 23, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi michael
> 
> I’m sincerly sad about the bad experience you encounter (especially when I 
> see how stable is the system on my 
> machine — and I’m a bug magnet for any software — everything crashes with me 
> — sadly enough).
> 
>> 
>> I had been following the Developing a simple counter chapter.
>> All was well.
>> I created an iceberg repository and added my Project to it.
>> I committed the sources to git.
>> Still working OK.
>> Then I did a push of all that to my GitHub/MichaelKentBurns/MyCounter 
>> repository.
>> I got a progress bar for the push which never made any progress.  
> 
> Can you tell us what is your OS?
>   version

MKB: MacOS 10.15.4.

>   pharo version

MKB: Pharo 8.0.0
Build information: 
Pharo-8.0.0+build.1124.sha.0932da82f08175e906b0e2a8052120c823374e9f (64 Bit)


> 
> Can you commit from the command line?

MKB: Yes, I’ve used git from a shell and several git Gui clients for years.
I started earlier (before I was introduced to Iceberg) by filing out my classes 
into the top level of a git repo for this project.
Then I can commit and push from there to GitHub

> 
> Are you using ssh or Https?

MKB:  I have probably used ssh, but more likely https.

> 
> If ssh are you using an agent?

MKB: Not sure what you mean.  Not that I’m aware of.

> 
> In Pharo 90 we are about to release a new C binding for libgit because the 
> version we use is .25 and we will get to 1.0. 
> 
>> Instead I got the beachball spinner.  After quite some time I wanted to 
>> interrupt it to see if I could recover, but I could find a way.
>> Eventually I had to force-quit.
> 
> Arg. 
>> 
>> When I restarted my Pharo image, all of that work was lost because I had not 
>> done a save.
> 
> Your code is there. 
> Open the change code. 
> And you can reapply your changes.
> As a general principle the only thing that you can really lose is the method 
> you are editing but did not compile
> (and all your code if you do not have write permissions but this is a bit 
> normal)
> 

MKB: I was able to recover all the changes.  Thanks.

> 
>  
> 
>> 
>> My Question: Is there some way to interrupt such a process?
>> 
>> You should be able to push  where meta is Ctrl / Alt / Command 
>> depending on your OS.
>> i.e. push period and meta keys together.
>> 
>> btw, in Pharo 7 I have been experiencing a few seconds lag before the 
>> debugger appears,
>> such that it seems it didn't work so I end up hammering the  key and 
>> half a dozen debuggers show up.
>> Apart from needing to modify my behaviour, what have other experienced.  
>> I understood there was some work lately to improve responsiveness, so maybe 
>> I move to Pharo 9 soon.
>> 
>> cheers -ben
> 
> 
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr  / 
> http://www.pharo.org  
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley, 
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
> 

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-23 Thread Michael Burns via Pharo-users 
--- Begin Message ---
Thanks.   Comments below marked MKB:

> On May 23, 2020, at 3:49 AM, Stéphane Ducasse  
> wrote:
> 
> Ok I will that you are
> 
>   P8 
>   sometimes we have to wait for timeout it should be 1 min (from memory). 
>   
>   Can you push from the command line?

MKB: Yes, I have been using git for years.
I am trying to see how Iceberg’s use of git repo differs from what I’m used to.

> 
> S.
> 
>> On 23 May 2020, at 00:16, Michael Burns > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: Michael Burns mailto:michaelbu...@mac.com>>
>> Subject: Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung 
>> (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?
>> Date: 23 May 2020 at 00:16:54 CEST
>> To: "pharo-users@lists.pharo.org " 
>> mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>>
>> Cc: Michael Burns mailto:michaelbu...@mac.com>>
>> 
>> 
>> I had been following the Developing a simple counter chapter.
>> All was well.
>> I created an iceberg repository and added my Project to it.
>> I committed the sources to git.
>> Still working OK.
>> Then I did a push of all that to my GitHub/MichaelKentBurns/MyCounter 
>> repository.
>> I got a progress bar for the push which never made any progress.  
>> Instead I got the beachball spinner.  After quite some time I wanted to 
>> interrupt it to see if I could recover, but I could find a way.
>> Eventually I had to force-quit.
>> 
>> When I restarted my Pharo image, all of that work was lost because I had not 
>> done a save.
>> 
>> My Question: Is there some way to interrupt such a process?
>> 
>> Screen capture attached.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr  / 
> http://www.pharo.org  
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley, 
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
> 

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Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse 
Ok I will that you are

P8 
sometimes we have to wait for timeout it should be 1 min (from memory). 

Can you push from the command line?

S.

> On 23 May 2020, at 00:16, Michael Burns  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Michael Burns 
> Subject: Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung 
> (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?
> Date: 23 May 2020 at 00:16:54 CEST
> To: "pharo-users@lists.pharo.org" 
> Cc: Michael Burns 
> 
> 
> I had been following the Developing a simple counter chapter.
> All was well.
> I created an iceberg repository and added my Project to it.
> I committed the sources to git.
> Still working OK.
> Then I did a push of all that to my GitHub/MichaelKentBurns/MyCounter 
> repository.
> I got a progress bar for the push which never made any progress.  
> Instead I got the beachball spinner.  After quite some time I wanted to 
> interrupt it to see if I could recover, but I could find a way.
> Eventually I had to force-quit.
> 
> When I restarted my Pharo image, all of that work was lost because I had not 
> done a save.
> 
> My Question: Is there some way to interrupt such a process?
> 
> Screen capture attached.
> 
> 
> 
> 


Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley, 
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-23 Thread Stéphane Ducasse 
Hi michael

I’m sincerly sad about the bad experience you encounter (especially when I see 
how stable is the system on my 
machine — and I’m a bug magnet for any software — everything crashes with me — 
sadly enough).

> 
> I had been following the Developing a simple counter chapter.
> All was well.
> I created an iceberg repository and added my Project to it.
> I committed the sources to git.
> Still working OK.
> Then I did a push of all that to my GitHub/MichaelKentBurns/MyCounter 
> repository.
> I got a progress bar for the push which never made any progress.  

Can you tell us what is your OS?
version
pharo version

Can you commit from the command line?

Are you using ssh or Https?

If ssh are you using an agent?

In Pharo 90 we are about to release a new C binding for libgit because the 
version we use is .25 and we will get to 1.0. 

> Instead I got the beachball spinner.  After quite some time I wanted to 
> interrupt it to see if I could recover, but I could find a way.
> Eventually I had to force-quit.

Arg. 
> 
> When I restarted my Pharo image, all of that work was lost because I had not 
> done a save.

Your code is there. 
Open the change code. 
And you can reapply your changes.
As a general principle the only thing that you can really lose is the method 
you are editing but did not compile
(and all your code if you do not have write permissions but this is a bit 
normal)


 

> 
> My Question: Is there some way to interrupt such a process?
> 
> You should be able to push  where meta is Ctrl / Alt / Command 
> depending on your OS.
> i.e. push period and meta keys together.
> 
> btw, in Pharo 7 I have been experiencing a few seconds lag before the 
> debugger appears,
> such that it seems it didn't work so I end up hammering the  key and 
> half a dozen debuggers show up.
> Apart from needing to modify my behaviour, what have other experienced.  
> I understood there was some work lately to improve responsiveness, so maybe I 
> move to Pharo 9 soon.
> 
> cheers -ben


Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley, 
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

Re: [Pharo-users] Pushing to GitHub repository from my iceberg repository is hung (beachball). How do I interrupt the process?

2020-05-22 Thread Ben Coman 
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 06:17, Michael Burns via Pharo-users <
pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:

> I had been following the Developing a simple counter chapter.
> All was well.
> I created an iceberg repository and added my Project to it.
> I committed the sources to git.
> Still working OK.
> Then I did a push of all that to my GitHub/MichaelKentBurns/MyCounter
> repository.
> I got a progress bar for the push which never made any progress.
> Instead I got the beachball spinner.  After quite some time I wanted to
> interrupt it to see if I could recover, but I could find a way.
> Eventually I had to force-quit.
>
> When I restarted my Pharo image, all of that work was lost because I had
> not done a save.
>
> My Question: Is there some way to interrupt such a process?
>

You should be able to push  where meta is Ctrl / Alt / Command
depending on your OS.
i.e. push period and meta keys together.

btw, in Pharo 7 I have been experiencing a few seconds lag before the
debugger appears,
such that it seems it didn't work so I end up hammering the  key
and half a dozen debuggers show up.
Apart from needing to modify my behaviour, what have other experienced.
I understood there was some work lately to improve responsiveness, so maybe
I move to Pharo 9 soon.

cheers -ben