Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-11-03 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Thanks Vitor and Dimitris. Hopefully Grafoscopio will provide another way for making tutorials and interactive documentation, even companion code notebooks for the books in Pharo. Please take into account that Grafoscopio is my first Smalltalk app and the one I create to learn Smalltalk (befor

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-11-03 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Yeah I think I will delay that idea and take a deeper look at grafoscopio. I think we can have a nice replacement to help tool. On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM Vitor Medina Cruz wrote: > Sorry, many things to do and I wasn't able to look at the Pharo list. > > *Dimitris:* > > I really like you id

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-11-03 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Sorry, many things to do and I wasn't able to look at the Pharo list. *Dimitris:* I really like you idea, and I think it will certainly be better than the videos. I didn't know of Grafoscopio, and I found it interesting too. Do you need someone to test? In latter stages I could try convince some

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-28 Thread stepharo
+ 1 :) share codevelop and expand :) Le 27/10/16 à 17:43, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas a écrit : Hi Dimitris, Goals 1 to 6 overlap with the ones Grafoscopio. Could you test it please to see if we can work together in some way or Grafoscopio could work as a foundation for your work? In tha

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-27 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Oups sorry I forgot to add that I managed to install it via Package browser, so maybe is a configuration issue On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:09 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Dimitris, Ben and Phil, > > Thanks for your interest in Grafoscopio. I need to solve the

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-27 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Thanks Ben. Hopefully this experiences will find broader context to be talked about (may be TED, but also ESUG and others). Cheers, Offray On 27/10/16 12:00, Ben Coman wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com>> wrote: [2]

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-27 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Dimitris, Ben and Phil, Thanks for your interest in Grafoscopio. I need to solve the issue with installation at least on Pharo 5. I don't know what is working wrong and need to understand better the ConfigurationOf stuff. Once I have it (soon) I will be back with news about installing or quest

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-27 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Absolutely , I am enjoying calling the way I work "parasitic coding" mainly because I love to use/ take advantage/canibalize existing libraries, languages and applications. Grafoscopio, Pillar, existing ProfStef, Morphic , whatever can help me open a link in a web browser and anything else will be

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-27 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > > > [2] http://mutabit.com/offray/blog/en/entry/dumb-hello-world > > Great article. For some reason I get the idea that mixing it with your Data Week experiences would make a great TED talk. cheers

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-27 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi Dimitris, Goals 1 to 6 overlap with the ones Grafoscopio. Could you test it please to see if we can work together in some way or Grafoscopio could work as a foundation for your work? In that way we could break the lonely developer reality for this one. Cheers, Offray On 27/10/16 09:00,

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-26 Thread stepharo
tteo mailto:matte...@yahoo.it>> To: Any question about pharo is welcome mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Cc: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:08:21 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-26 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
is still sitting near my desk today (I guess it keeps me > connected to my curious young self or something like that). > > I keep on thinking that it would be great to have a Pharo-based version of > it. > > And something like this one for bytecode sets... > > > http://ww

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-26 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I am a big fan of proper attribution, so here is my guess. It seems to be a paraphrase of an Alan Perlis quote https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alan_Perlis " A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing." From his article Epigrams on Programming, 198

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-26 Thread stepharo
age -- From: Matteo mailto:matte...@yahoo.it>> To: Any question about pharo is welcome mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Cc: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:08:21 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pha

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-26 Thread stepharo
nt: Monday, October 24, 2016 at 1:56 AM From: "Nicolai Hess" mailto:nicolaih...@gmail.com>> To: "Any question about pharo is welcome"

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
ocuments/Manuals/Programming/EDTASM+%20With%20ZBUG%20%28Tandy%29.pdf> > > Phil > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Matteo via Pharo-users < > pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Matteo > To: Any

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
ed%20Basic%20(Tandy)%20(French).pdf >> <http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Hardware/Color%20Computer%203%20Exended%20Basic%20%28Tandy%29%20%28French%29.pdf> >> >> This thing is still sitting near my desk today (I guess it keeps me >> connected to

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
eat to have a Pharo-based version of > it. > > And something like this one for bytecode sets... > > > http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Programming/EDTASM+%20With%20ZBUG%20(Tandy).pdf > <http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Programmi

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:08:21 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial >> +1 for PBE >> It has been my first smalltalk/Pharo tutorial. >> I'm still using it, as a quick reference. >> >> On October 25, 2016 6:25:08 AM GMT+02:00, monty

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread stepharo
- From: Matteo mailto:matte...@yahoo.it>> To: Any question about pharo is welcome mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Cc: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:08:21 +0200 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial +1 f

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread stepharo
thanks for this feedback. This reminds me that we should finish to push Updated Pharo by Example to the publication part Le 24/10/16 à 07:56, Nicolai Hess a écrit : Am 23.10.2016 3:16 nachm. schrieb "Vitor Medina Cruz" mailto:vitormc...@gmail.com>>: > > I think the MOOC is too much for a

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread stepharo
So tell us what is missing because we already have an impressive list and you read nearly everything. I do not see what we can do more than that. I mean it seriously (I'm writing a new book on Learning OOP with Pharo) but this is not what you are looking for. Then I do not see why Building t

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread stepharo
It was quite fun Tx for this cool tour. https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2016/10/25/the-four-stages-of-pharo-addiction/ Stef Le 23/10/16 à 18:26, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : The four stages of Pharo addiction STEP1 "I am interested in Pharo , any quick tutorial to get me started ?" If you

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
t; > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Matteo > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > > Cc: > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:08:21 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial > +1 for PBE > It has been my first smalltalk/Pha

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-25 Thread p...@highoctane.be
- Forwarded message -- > From: Matteo > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > Cc: > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 07:08:21 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial > +1 for PBE > It has been my first smalltalk/Pharo tutorial. > I'm

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-24 Thread Matteo via Pharo-users
t; >> To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial >> >> Am 23.10.2016 3:16 nachm. schrieb "Vitor Medina Cruz" >mailto:vitormc...@gmail.com]>: >> > >> > I think t

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-24 Thread monty
+1 for PBE. > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 at 1:56 AM > From: "Nicolai Hess" > To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial > > Am 23.10.2016 3:16 nachm. schrieb "Vitor Medina Cruz"

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread Nicolai Hess
Am 23.10.2016 3:16 nachm. schrieb "Vitor Medina Cruz" : > > I think the MOOC is too much for a tutorial. What I miss today is a good written (no videos! Please!) tutorial that teaches just a little of the language and give a few guidelines on how to do simple stuff with the environment, such as a "

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > I was looking my entire life for something like Pharo , almost 30 years. > When I found it took me another 5 to realize this is it and I had many close > calls to abandoning it. But in the end I realized with its weakness and > frustrated

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
It's hard because very few people are curious by nature. It's people that love to get out of their comfort zone. You cannot instill that to people , you either have it or you don't. So the truth is , there is no step 0. Let's be sincere here Smalltalk is by far the most anti mainstream language.

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
*stepharo:* I am not saying it for me, but to get other people into the Smalltalk community. My interest in Smalltalk spark the first time I read the Design Principles Behind Smalltalk, since then I: 1- Read the BlueBook (yes) before I know of Pharo; 2- Read "I Can Read C++ and Java But I Can’t R

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
The four stages of Pharo addiction STEP1 "I am interested in Pharo , any quick tutorial to get me started ?" If you want a quick dive to Pharo for experienced coders there is this https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/UpdatedPharoByExample/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/PharoTour/

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread p...@highoctane.be
BlueBook. Read the first half. http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks/BlueBook/Bluebook.pdf HelloWorld: VTermOutputDriver stdout green: 'Hello World' If you are on OSX or Linux, will be shown on the console. Windows: writes the string in the stdout file in the image directory (silly Windows

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread stepharo
May be you miss it but it is call Pharo by Example. or tinyBlog or ProfStef I think the MOOC is too much for a tutorial. What I miss today is a good written (no videos! Please!) tutorial that teaches just a little of the language and give a few guidelines on how to do simple stuf

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-23 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
I think the MOOC is too much for a tutorial. What I miss today is a good written (no videos! Please!) tutorial that teaches just a little of the language and give a few guidelines on how to do simple stuff with the environment, such as a "Hello World!", creating a class, tests and run stuff. On Sa

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-15 Thread horrido
Excellent suggestion! I shall look into it. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Ultimate-Smalltalk-Tutorial-tp4918859p4918930.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-15 Thread stepharo
Hi Horrido The tinyblog tutorial is a tutorial on build a real little web application. We worked on it with Olivier and we decided to reuse an adpat it for the mooc. If you want to help what we are trying to do is the following (but I need time hence you can help): - take the mooc vers

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-14 Thread horrido
Wow! How did I miss this??? It looks great! I guess I have to modify my campaign to avoid overlap. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/The-Ultimate-Smalltalk-Tutorial-tp4918859p4918877.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial

2016-10-14 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi Horrido, did you have a look at the Pharo Mooc? http://files.pharo.org/mooc/ it has exactly the same target audience and also covers Seaside. -- Does this mail seem too brief? Sorry for that, I don’t mean to be rude! Please see http://emailcharter.org . Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~