[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread BruceY
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310042039598ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Here is a unique item for someone who owns a Victor Monarch Talking Machine. It is a program from a Turn-of the Century exhibitor who played an interesting variety of the early victor records on his

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread Bob
I've never heard of the Monarch Talking Machine Co. Does anyone have any information on them? RMV - Original Message - From: Loran Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Monarch Talking

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread BruceY
Sorry I must have gotten my history of these machines a little mixed up or something. So the Monarch was a pre-victor era model but was still offered by Eldridge Johnson with no referance to the Victor Talking Machine Company, which was at this point in time initially offering its series of

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread Loran Hughes
Bruce, Reading the program, I'm thinking that this is not the Monarch you believe it to be. Not Victor, but a separate company named Monarch. I could be wrong - but then why would it say Victor and Monarch? Loran On Apr 17, 2008, at 4:14 PM, BruceY wrote: Sorry I must have gotten my

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread BruceY
the Victor Monarch was offered from 1901 to 1905 and E.Johnson chose this name to indicate that it was the King of Talking Machinesand the finest he had made up unitl that time. I am guessing that the exhibitor was in fact refering to the Monarch Model and not a seperate Monarch Company, to

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread gpaul2...@aol.com
1901-02 Johnson/Victor catalogs differentiated between Victor and Monarch records, and this may have influenced the exhibitor's terminology.? I'm not aware of any Monarch Talking Machine from this era other than the Johnson/Victor machines. George Paul ?

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread BruceY
According to a history I just read concerning the Victor Talking Machine Co., they very briefly used the word Monarch as their trademark, here is the excerpt, this could also explain the reason that the exhibitor was using these two different names for this talking machines. Did the name plates

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread Mark S. Chester
Wasn't the Monarch the name for the Victor Talking Machine model with a 10 turntable? The Monarch record designation during that era was originally used for the 10 records, though some 7 pre-dog (but post-Eldridge Johnson) records were also labeled Victor Monarch Record. Mark Mark S. Chester

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread BruceY
the history says that the Monarch Trade Mark was used on instruments for only one season. This seems to confirm my suspicions about the reason for the two names on the Promotional Program by the Exhibitor, making it a very unique and rare reference to the two different Trademarked Talking

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread Loran T. Hughes
From the wording on the bill, you could be right. However, I also found - in my deep, dank, archives - a flyer for the Monarch Talking Machine Co. out of Menomonie WI. Although for a couple of late teens upright internal horn models. Could some little Wisconsin company have been quietly

[Phono-L] Monarch Talking Machine Program

2008-04-17 Thread Loran T. Hughes
Don't get me wrong, Bruce. I agree completely about the Wisconsin Monarch... I'm playing devil's advocate here. However, sometimes things are not as complicated as we believe. I think this guy knew what he was doing when he put that little word and between Victor Monarch... Interesting