Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

2016-01-27 Thread Bob via Phono-L 
The feed nut and bar are offset. Bob


In a message dated 1/27/2016 7:41:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:


The Triumph A 2/4 upgrade mandrel is very rare because most of  the time
you see an A it has the B upgrade mandrel on it which will fit but  you have
to move the upper bed plate all the way to the right so the belt will  not
hit so the screw holding the bedplate down will be all the way to the left 
and not centered in its lug.

All the upgrade mandrels and feedscrews are stamped.  My article  below and
the copies of the Edison letter should answer all your questions, if  not
please let me know.

I have a Triumph A with a B mandrel on it.  No other companies made  them
to my knowledge.  Edison made 2/4 upgrade mandrels and pulleys for  the
Concert, the early Spring Motor, and the ABC triumphs.

Steve



I was able to find  a copy of a letter Edison sent to his dealers telling
about the different  mandrel upgrades for the home and triumphs.  If the
dealers  needed a letter, how much more will this information help us?
Here are some  things that I have found from the letter and myself.  The
lengths of the  triumph feed screws are as follows:
The A is 4 27/32"  and is marked T D A I  and TA on the feedscrew and the
mandrel.
The B is 5" and is  marked T D B I, TBI, or just a large TB on the mandrel
and the end of the  feed screw is also marked.
The C is 5  1/4" and is marked T  D C I on the feedscrew and the mandrel. I
have never seen a C except for  a pulley.
The D and E (and F  I assume) is marked T D only.
The pulley is  marked with an A B C or D.
Homes:
The home is marked  H B I, IHB or H A B I for the A & B and H C for  C.
The home D and  higher is marked H D.
If you put a  Triumph B mandrel on a Triumph A you have to move the upper
bedplate to the  right all the way to compensate or the belt hits where it
goes through the  lower bedplate.  My Triumph A has a B mandrel on  it.
I believe the  pulleys are the same, and think the shifters on the C kits
have the lip like  the D and higher does, but I have only seen one home C and
one triumph C with  the kit so I can’t say for certain.  7 or 8 Triumph C’
s  are known and the Home C is very uncommon.
Until I saw this  letter on eBay (I did not win it but purchased a
photocopy from the winner) I  did not know they made 5 different ones.  If 
anyone
wants a copy of the  letter e-mail to them please contact me.
Steve
>From Terry  Baer:
The model C used a  unique mandrel assembly
with "captured" bearing.  Picture  an early two minute mandrel shaft.
Remove
the mandrel  and turn down the area under the mandrel to about 5/16" leaving
the larger  5/8" feedscrew.  Now slip on a bearing that is 5/8 OD 5/16  ID.
Now slip on a mandrel with smaller 5/16 holes on both ends.   Now slip the
whole assembly in the top works.





From: john9ten via Phono-L  
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:26  PM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute  conversion kit?


No access to my books right now, would it be different than the one for
the triumph model b?


John robles


 Original message 
From:  Richard Rubin via Phono-L 
Date: 01/27/2016  3:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: Richard Rubin  
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4  minute conversion kit?

I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some  other
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who  has. 
 Can
anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?   If so, have you
ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?

Re: [Phono-L] cylinder cabinet replacement posts needed

2016-10-13 Thread Bob via Phono-L 
I think the only person still making them is Jim. They come with the tops  
already in place and complete. Just glue them in. He can be reached at 
_amberola75@aol.com_ (mailto:amberol...@aol.com)  
 
 
In a message dated 10/13/2016 12:33:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:

 
Tim Fabrizio sells them, his  email address is _phonotim@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:phono...@gmail.com) .


John  Robles






 
 
  

 From: Bob Maffit via Phono-L  
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Cc: Bob Maffit  
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:34  PM
Subject: [Phono-L]  cylinder cabinet replacement posts needed


  
 
 
Phono Listers:
 
I  can’t find the source contact information , for the person who I got my 
last  batch of cylinder cardboard replacement posts from.
 
I would appreciate any info you may  have.
 
Thanks in advance
 
Bob Maffit

  


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Re: [Phono-L] Edison E

2017-04-13 Thread Bob via Phono-L 
Where is it located? Thanks
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2017 9:36:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
phono-l@oldcrank.org writes:

 
It's probably a Model D Standard.  These were 2.4 min. The model E was 
strictly a  4 min.  machine.
Harvey  Kravitz




 
 
  

 From: Jamie Kelly via Phono-L  
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Cc: Jamie Kelly  
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:24  PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  Edison E


  
 
 
I’d love to get the  cylinder cabinet but tricky to get to Australia.
Jamie
 
 
 
From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On  Behalf Of Randy 
Larson via Phono-L
Sent: Friday, 14  April 2017 10:27 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List  
Cc: Randy Larson  
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison  E
 
 
I'm  selling this for a lady that recently lost her house in a fire with no 
 insurance. This was in storage and spared. It's an Standard E . It has the 
 2&4 conversion and a new H reproducer. The motor was cleaned and new  
spring installed in 2004. The base of the Cygnet horn has been restored. This  
comes with a cylinder cabinet, all in excellent condition (except for the  
upper half of the horn). All proceeds go to helping this lady get back on her  
feet. Thechrome Cygnet horn support is also new. It plays  beautifully. 
I can send more pics upon request. A phono friend thought it  would go 
between 7 to 900 dollars. Let me know if interested. Thanks
 
Randy Larson 






 
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