[Phono-L] Edison Standard B question

2008-02-13 Thread Glenn Longwell
Hi - someone had sent me some pictures of an Edison Standard they are looking 
to potentially sell.  I have posted one of the pictures on my website at:   
http://www.majesticrecord.com/standard.htm

It's a Model B but has the horizontal carriage with large eye.  I'm not an 
expert on this but I'd like to confirm that no other modification needed to be 
done to put this carriage on the Model B.  It's a Model C reproducer, 
unfortunately with a broken hinge pin.  Any comments on age of horn?  Is this a 
reproduction?  Why would someone set it up this way other than that this was 
the only carriage available to them at the time so that's what was used.  It 
has been this way since at least 1981.

Thanks,
Glenn
From lhera...@bu.edu  Wed Feb 13 13:01:31 2008
From: lhera...@bu.edu (Ron L)
Date: Wed Feb 13 13:03:29 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] threaded needles
In-Reply-To: 47b3502c.7000...@mediaguide.com
References: 
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003b01c86aab$aaaf34a0$6400a...@hpa1514n   
bay102-w3408c96e4bb9f89a711a06f6...@phx.gbl   
001b01c86b58$6463df20$6400a...@hpa1514n1885592092.20080209134...@noring.name
47b3502c.7000...@mediaguide.com
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Isn't sabot a French word for boot?

Ron L

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Thatcher Graham
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:17 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] threaded needles


As an engineer I could not help but to fixate on this threaded needle 
idea. I agree that threading needles solves the mass issue hence the 
instinctive appeal, but the difficult manufacture is equally 
discouraging.  As an alternative, have you considered a sabot?

-Thatcher



Jon Noring wrote:
 Greg wrote:

   
 Threading the needle shank and having it screw into the needle bar is
an
 option.  I hadn't considered that before, but it would pretty well solve
the
 extra mass problem.  But it would make the needles pretty involved to 
 manufacture.  I'll keep it in mind.
 

 Yes, it would be involved if all the needles are threaded by hand or
 in small numbers, especially at the diameter being considered.

 It is intriguing to consider using a very fine threaded rod, if even
 manufactured in the desired material(s). One would have to grind and
 polish to create the tip geometry.

 Which brings up the idea that if a needle is to be especially
 manufactured, one could consider tipping it with a different material
 that can be specially shaped (such as spherical or elliptical with
 no sharp edges at all. It is my understanding that most damage to
 grooves is due to a tip which is no longer smooth. Maybe the tip could
 be made from a material of the same hardness as the grit used in
 shellac discs (is it corundum?) to wear down the needle.

 Just thinking outside the box...

 Jon

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[Phono-L] Edison Standard B question

2008-02-13 Thread David Dazer
The horn color looks like a repro to me.  The odd thing is, it looks like it 
has the correct bead on the outside where the bell joins the neck.  It is 
hard to tell from the angle shown, but my vote is that it is repro.  The 
carriage makes no sense except maybe this machine lost the original one and 
someone stuck this one on. The correct carriage would be easy to find.
  Dave

Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net wrote:
  Hi - someone had sent me some pictures of an Edison Standard they are looking 
to potentially sell. I have posted one of the pictures on my website at: 
http://www.majesticrecord.com/standard.htm

It's a Model B but has the horizontal carriage with large eye. I'm not an 
expert on this but I'd like to confirm that no other modification needed to be 
done to put this carriage on the Model B. It's a Model C reproducer, 
unfortunately with a broken hinge pin. Any comments on age of horn? Is this a 
reproduction? Why would someone set it up this way other than that this was the 
only carriage available to them at the time so that's what was used. It has 
been this way since at least 1981.

Thanks,
Glenn
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[Phono-L] Edison Standard B question

2008-02-13 Thread David Dazer
It also looks like it has been refinished. 
  Dave

Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net wrote:
  Hi - someone had sent me some pictures of an Edison Standard they are looking 
to potentially sell. I have posted one of the pictures on my website at: 
http://www.majesticrecord.com/standard.htm

It's a Model B but has the horizontal carriage with large eye. I'm not an 
expert on this but I'd like to confirm that no other modification needed to be 
done to put this carriage on the Model B. It's a Model C reproducer, 
unfortunately with a broken hinge pin. Any comments on age of horn? Is this a 
reproduction? Why would someone set it up this way other than that this was the 
only carriage available to them at the time so that's what was used. It has 
been this way since at least 1981.

Thanks,
Glenn
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[Phono-L] Edison Standard B question

2008-02-13 Thread Steve Andersen
Glenn,
The horn is a reproduction and the case has been refinished. No  
modifications are or were needed to put this carriage on a Model B. As  
to why someone would set up this way is anyone's best guess. The  
person probably had these parts available to make the machine complete  
to sell. Depending on what you are paying for it, I think their are  
better machines available which you won't have to fuss around with and  
are in more original condition.
Steve
On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Glenn Longwell wrote:

 Hi - someone had sent me some pictures of an Edison Standard they  
 are looking to potentially sell.  I have posted one of the pictures  
 on my website at:   http://www.majesticrecord.com/standard.htm

 It's a Model B but has the horizontal carriage with large eye.  I'm  
 not an expert on this but I'd like to confirm that no other  
 modification needed to be done to put this carriage on the Model B.   
 It's a Model C reproducer, unfortunately with a broken hinge pin.   
 Any comments on age of horn?  Is this a reproduction?  Why would  
 someone set it up this way other than that this was the only  
 carriage available to them at the time so that's what was used.  It  
 has been this way since at least 1981.

 Thanks,
 Glenn
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