ID: 15079
Updated by: mfischer
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Sockets related
Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Unfortunately a bug slipped it and it is fixed in CVS already. But you
can easily fix it yourself by
ID: 15079
Updated by: mfischer
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Sockets related
Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
The file is in php-4.1.1/ext/sockets/ .
Previous Comments:
ID: 12211
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Closed
Bug Type: cURL related
Operating System: Mandrake/Slackware
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
I installed the cgi version of php4 (4.1.1) which has curl with ssl
support as
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: N/A
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Bug description: Error in the php.net site
While opening the following URL:
http://bg.php.net/manual-lookup.php?pattern=extension
Warning: Call-time pass-by-reference
ID: 12941
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Session related
Operating System: Windows 2000 Adv Server
PHP Version: 4.0.5
New Comment:
I have the same problem with 4.0.6 (on apache and Linux).
I did add the:
On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 08:33, Robin Ericsson wrote:
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 21:19, Ilia A. wrote:
I've tested your code on 4.1.1 release with the recent SHMOP patch that is
already part of the latest CVS. The code worked fine and did not generate any
warning or errors.
I did however
ID: 12211
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Closed
Bug Type: cURL related
Operating System: Mandrake/Slackware
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
Compile PHP without OpenSSL support and CURL https:// calls should work
just fine.
ID: 14897
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Program Execution
Operating System: Windows 2000
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
clarification: is this a suggestion of a way to fix the problem myself
(so I can call
ID: 12691
Updated by: lobbin
Old Summary: Apache 2: Server variables don't get set
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Apache2 related
Operating System: SuSE7.1
Old PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-08-10
PHP Version: 4.1.1
Previous Comments:
ID: 14143
Updated by: lobbin
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Feedback
Bug Type: Apache2 related
Operating System: SuSE7.1
PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-11-20
New Comment:
Does the same happen on 4.1.1 or current CVS?
Previous Comments:
ID: 7045
Updated by: lobbin
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Arrays related
Operating System: Linux RH 6 and 7
PHP Version: 4.1.0
Assigned To: rodif_bl
New Comment:
Can someone check/commit this? :)
Previous Comments:
ID: 14160
Updated by: lobbin
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Arrays related
Operating System: Windows 2000
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
Works for me in CVS, can someone still reproduce this on windows?
Previous Comments:
ID: 14940
Updated by: joosters
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Dynamic loading
Operating System: Debian (Potato)
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Where are you setting the environment variable?
Are you setting it before starting Apache?
Are you using Apache to start
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Linux Mandrake 7.2
PHP version: 4.0.6
PHP Bug Type: Performance problem
Bug description: too slow
if php script running in unix shell it works TOO slowly
under web server or NT command line works fine.
problem line is
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Windows 2000 Pro
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: MSSQL related
Bug description: Big bug with mssql_fetch_ methods
On PHP 4.0.6 on Windows 2000 Pro
I use the php_mssql.dll extension to access mssql server 7.0 and all the
ID: 15083
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: MSSQL related
Operating System: Windows 2000 Pro
PHP Version: 4.1.1
Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=15083edit=1
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ID: 14797
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem
Operating System: Windows 98 SE
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
Hello,
I tried:
DocumentRoot d:/foo/htdocs
DocumentRoot d:/foo/htdocs/
DocumentRoot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: win2k-apache 1.3
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: Apache related
Bug description: Cannot remove module mod_php4.c not found in module list.
I've downloaded:
php-4.1.1-win32.zip
I'm using apache, which works fine. If I try to
ID: 14797
Updated by: mboeren
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem
Operating System: Windows 98 SE
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
I use NT, but that doesn't really matter. What works for me is the
following:
If in httpd.conf, the DocumentRoot is
ID: 14797
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem
Operating System: Windows 98 SE
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
Yes, but I do not want to edit anything. I want to upload the files
and then it has to work.
Perhaps
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Linux Redhat 7.1
PHP version: 4.0.5
PHP Bug Type: MySQL related
Bug description: mysql_query for insert statement does not work proprely
I have wrote the script bellow :
for ($i=50;$i60;$i++)
{
$requette=INSERT INTO
ID: 14797
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem
Operating System: Windows 98 SE
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
OK, I think I has to use this workaround:
if (strpos($SERVER_SOFTWARE, Win)) { // Windows - Is there a
ID: 13459
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Analyzed
Bug Type: Informix related
Operating System: Linux 2.2
PHP Version: 4.0.5
New Comment:
I do get same phenomenon on solaris 2.8
apache 1.3.20
php 3.1.18 and 4.1.0
against
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Debian
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: Output Control
Bug description: trans sid still doesn't work with zlib.compression or ob_gzhandler
(PHP 4.1.1)
When I compress my output with ob_gzhandler or with
zlib.output_compression
ID: 14797
Updated by: mboeren
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Scripting Engine problem
Operating System: Windows 98 SE
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
How about
include(getenv(DRIVELETTER)./foo/test.php);
and setting this environment variable locally (chances are it
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Filemaker
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Bug description: FX.php
When I search the site php.net for Filemaker, nothing shows
up, you might say; but php does not support Filemaker...
But FX.php does, a
ID: 14814
Updated by: georg
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Old Bug Type: Zlib Related
Bug Type: Documentation problem
Operating System: Linux (2.4.17)
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Currently its not possible, to combine diffrent wrappers.
So you can't use fopen(zlib:url/file.gz)
ID: 14453
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Critical
Bug Type: Session related
Operating System: win2k
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
changing the path fixes the crash problem when session.save_handler is
set to 'files'...
ID: 15087
Updated by: sander
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Operating System: Filemaker
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
FX.php is not an official PHP class. So it won't be on the official PHP
site.
Previous Comments:
Markus,
This fixed my problem.
Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Markus Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:15 PM
To: Joseph Lauer
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.1.x Win32 Extension Compile Error with
oject_init()
On Wed, Jan 16,
ID: 15084
Updated by: sander
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: Apache related
Operating System: win2k-apache 1.3
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Ask support questions on the appropriate mailinglist.
Hint: somewhere in httpd.conf, there are a bunch of
ID: 14143
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Apache2 related
Operating System: SuSE7.1
PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-11-20
New Comment:
to solve the problem related to cgi var setting (PATH_INFO and so on)
you need
ID: 15083
Updated by: sander
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: MSSQL related
Operating System: Windows 2000 Pro
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Can you provide a sample script?
Previous Comments:
ID: 15085
Updated by: sander
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Bogus
Bug Type: MySQL related
Operating System: Linux Redhat 7.1
PHP Version: 4.0.5
New Comment:
Ask support questions on the appropriate mailinglist.
Previous Comments:
ID: 15083
Updated by: sander
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Feedback
Bug Type: MSSQL related
Operating System: Windows 2000 Pro
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Status - feedback
Previous Comments:
ID: 14964
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Operating System: linux
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
We're having exactly the same problem. PHP 4.1.1, apache 1.3.22 on
Linux (kernel
ID: 14964
Updated by: sesser
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Closed
Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Operating System: linux
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
This bug was fixed a few days ago in CVS
Previous Comments:
I don't know a good way of debug my extension on the linux platform..
It doens't crash on windows but it crashes on linux.. Can someone
give me some insite how they debug their php extensions. The crash is
reproducable but it isn't consistant. It crashes ever ? times.
- Brad
hmm...
if you don't feel like typing it out..
$hsc = htmlspecialchars;
echo $hsc($var);
- Brad
--- Jason G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello General and Dev list,
Considering the fact that it is good practice to use htmlspecialchars()
anytime you are outputting non-html content to the
ID: 14076
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: *Directory/Filesystem functions
Operating System: Linux
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
I've verified that this problem still exists in PHP 4.1.1.
Hajo Noerenberg
You have the same script try open the shm segment 2 times, which is WRONG.
Here is a proper example of what you should be doing:
?php
define(SHMKEY, 0xDEAD);
define(SEMKEY, 0xCAFE);
if( !($shm_id = shmop_open(SHMKEY, 'c', 0644,10)) ) {
exit(Segment
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Windows 2000 Srv fr SP2
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: PHP options/info functions
Bug description: Problem with disable_functions on Apache 1.3.20 and PHP 4.1.1
Hi,
I have installed PHP 4.1.1 and Apache 1.3.20 on my windows
ID: 15075
Updated by: goba
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Bogus
Old Bug Type: Website problem
Bug Type: URL related
Operating System: Linux 6.2
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
is used as a separator for variables in URLs. Treating nbsp; as a
space was a misfeature of PHP 3 if this
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: linux
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Bug description: stat() produces warning instead of error-code.
I used stat() to check the existence of files. If the file I check does
not
exist, stat() would return
ID: 15089
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function
Operating System: linux
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
I used stat() to check the existence of files. If the file I check
does
not
exist, stat() would return FALSE
Hello General and Dev list,
Considering the fact that it is good practice to use htmlspecialchars()
anytime you are outputting non-html content to the browser...
After typing the 16 characters in the htmlspecialchars() function thousands
of times...
I was wondering if it would be feasible to
Hi,
After typing the 16 characters in the htmlspecialchars() function thousands
of times...
When you have to type it 16 times, then you did something wrong.
Consider this:
foreach($_GLOBAL as $key = $val)
$$key = htmlspecialchars($val);
Replace $_GLOBAL by $_COOKIES, $_GET, .. OR you
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Windows 2000
PHP version: 4.0.6
PHP Bug Type: Reproducible crash
Bug description: header(Location: $url) causes php.exe to generate an error
After a lengthy script, I go to redirect to another page, using
header(Location:
ID: 13165
Comment by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Analyzed
Bug Type: Documentation problem
Operating System: RedHat 7.1
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
Isn't this the same bug as http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=13882 (and
therefore
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: windows 2000
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: Sockets related
Bug description: socket_set_timeout not part of windows binary
I am using windows binaries.
$fp = $fsockopen(($ip_addr, $port_no, $errno, $errstr, 30);
do {
if
ID: 15091
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Sockets related
Operating System: windows 2000
PHP Version: 4.1.1
Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=15091edit=1
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ID: 15091
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Sockets related
Operating System: windows 2000
PHP Version: 4.1.1
Edit this bug report at http://bugs.php.net/?id=15091edit=1
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ID: 15091
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Sockets related
Operating System: windows 2000
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
Correction to my earlier report. When using socket_set_blocking($fp,
false) I am not getting data every one second
ID: 13035
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Feedback
Status: Open
Bug Type: Apache related
Operating System: Linux 2.4.6
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
I dont know. I dont have 4.1.1 compiled as a CGI anywhere, won't have
time to do it and test it
ID: 14897
User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Summary: unable to fork - cause solution (well, at least for
me)
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Program Execution
Operating System: Windows 2000
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
this is a suggestion to the developers to do,
If this is the wrong place for it, please point me to the right place.
This is real small, though.. I'd like to see a shorthand for defining
arrays.. for example
$ucase_alphabet = array(['A'..'Z']); (creates an array of all alphabet
characters, uppercase)
$numeric = array([1..100]);
Or
Hi
Posted this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and got no reply, so here is it again (and i
hope you won't get this twice, since my first attempt a few minutes ago
went to the wrong adress, maybe... it's late :) ):
I'd like to help out with the domxml developement and ask therefor for
karma .)
We use
Robin Ericsson wrote:
This seems very similar to bug #14880.
I use a session handler written in php, which I set with
session_set_save_handler().
The problem is that my write function never gets called, and data never
written.
Variables are not stored when entered into $_SESSION, and
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: Win 2k (all I gues)
PHP version: 4.1.0
PHP Bug Type: XML related
Bug description: xml_parse() fails if XML-data contains entity like nbsp; or copy;
...
PHP XML-parser has problems with the full iso8859-1 char set when trying to
use
ID: 15093
Updated by: imajes
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Duplicate
Old Bug Type: Website problem
Bug Type: Documentation problem
Operating System: All
PHP Version: 4.1.1
New Comment:
This is being worked on, thanks for the report. :)
Previous Comments:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating system: windows98
PHP version: 4.1.1
PHP Bug Type: GD related
Bug description: GD2 bugs
When I use GD2 include in the php4.1.1 release package. The function
ImageCopyResized and ImageCopyResampled give colorless output. But Gd
works well.
Hello,
Francesco Gallarotti wrote:
I am a student in a college in NY state. Here we have several servers and
dozens of courses on computer science. No server is PHP ready and no course
instructor knows anything about PHP. Why do you think this is happening? I
really like PHP and I am using
Hi all,
It seems --enable-safe-mode is broken for a long time...
I'm not sure if this patch is valid/ok to commit.
Let me know if you object this patch :)
--
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Index: main.c
===
RCS file:
Manuel,
I have replied inline with a few comments that kind of reply in some way to
what you said:
IMHO, that is there no marketing effort behind PHP, meaning there is no
Microsoft nor Sun nor any strong brand behind PHP to advertise it.
Microsoft make $xxx BILLION dollars a year SELLING
ID: 14453
Updated by: nohn
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Critical
Bug Type: Session related
Operating System: win2k
PHP Version: 4.1.0
New Comment:
Reproduced this Crash with PHP 4.1.1 (www.php4win.com) and Apache
1.3.22 on Windows NT 4 Server.
Previous Comments:
ID: 12144
Updated by: nohn
Old Summary: Error in execution operator (`dir .\*.*`)
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: Open
Bug Type: Reproducible crash
Operating System: Windows NT Server 4
PHP Version: 4.0.6
New Comment:
Tried to verify this bug with PHP 4.1.1. PHP did'nt crash. Uses this:
hi Yasuo,
automagically is a phrased used to describe something that's a bit wierd...
like the ChangeLog updating... something that is kinda strange and
complicated that just works.
I don't think this was a typo... but i cc'ed it to php-dev incase i was
talking baloney.
James
-Original
ID: 14143
Updated by: lobbin
Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Old Status: Open
Status: Feedback
Bug Type: Apache2 related
Operating System: SuSE7.1
PHP Version: 4.0CVS-2001-11-20
New Comment:
Teo: Can you download a CVS snapshot, and see if it works?
http://snaps.php.net
Previous Comments:
James Cox wrote:
hi Yasuo,
automagically is a phrased used to describe something that's a bit wierd...
like the ChangeLog updating... something that is kinda strange and
complicated that just works.
I don't think this was a typo... but i cc'ed it to php-dev incase i was
talking baloney.
Well,
i recognise it from other things, but it could be a spelling mistake here
too :)
I would wager on waiting for other developers to notice this... not that's
particularly important.
James
-Original Message-
From: Yasuo Ohgaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 18,
On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 21:17, Ilia A. wrote:
You have the same script try open the shm segment 2 times, which is WRONG.
Here is a proper example of what you should be doing:
?php
define(SHMKEY, 0xDEAD);
define(SEMKEY, 0xCAFE);
if( !($shm_id = shmop_open(SHMKEY, 'c',
Hi all,
README.QNX is obsolete. It should be removed or maintained.
Is it ok to remove it? (If nobody is going to update)
Or I should create new directory doc or docs to keep
these README.*, etc?
PS: May be we should add $Id$ to text files also.
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On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:00, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Robin Ericsson wrote:
This seems very similar to bug #14880.
I use a session handler written in php, which I set with
session_set_save_handler().
The problem is that my write function never gets called, and data never
written.
Robin Ericsson wrote:
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:00, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Robin Ericsson wrote:
SNIP
If PS(http_session_vars) or PS(register_globals)
is TRUE, data will be saved.
So far, I have no idea when/how PS(http_session_vars)
became NULL for mm save handler. Now we know there is
a
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
README.QNX is obsolete. It should be removed or maintained.
Is it ok to remove it? (If nobody is going to update)
It's fine as it is. Don't fix something if it isn't broken :) And it
doesn't hurt if it's there.
Derick
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Well, as for me, with some checking I did yesterday when I did my first
post. In the beginning of the script print_r($_SESSION); returns
nothing, but after settings some values, print_r returns it an
associated array.
Never tested on
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 08:29, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Well, as for me, with some checking I did yesterday when I did my first
post. In the beginning of the script print_r($_SESSION); returns
nothing, but after settings some values, print_r returns
At 08:52 PM 1/17/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hi,
After typing the 16 characters in the htmlspecialchars() function
thousands
of times...
When you have to type it 16 times, then you did something wrong.
Consider this:
Apparently, you either I grossly mistyped what I wanted to say, or you
Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Well, as for me, with some checking I did yesterday when I did my first
post. In the beginning of the script print_r($_SESSION); returns
nothing, but after settings some values, print_r returns it an
associated array.
Never
Derick Rethans wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
README.QNX is obsolete. It should be removed or maintained.
Is it ok to remove it? (If nobody is going to update)
It's fine as it is. Don't fix something if it isn't broken :) And it
doesn't hurt if it's there.
Ok. I'll
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