Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Changing entity charset handlinginext/standard/html.c

2002-10-17 Thread Wez Furlong
On 10/17/02, Moriyoshi Koizumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, as far as I read the archives, I haven't found any discussions on the charset related backwards problems. So I wrote *exactly* about this issue. Search for htmlentities charset. Both myself and thies (and probably others were

Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 05:41:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Andi. yeah, I will wait for Thies to reply to me. We have sort of a started this discussion with him before, so hopefully he will join into this one. My main concerns about OCI8 are the followings ones. Some of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 09:40:01AM +0900, Maxim Maletsky wrote: Sebastian Nohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 5. Functions are called OCI .* I do well know what it refers to, but this is only because I learned the original oci.h API. Wouldn't itbe more standard for PHP to use similar naming as

Re: [PHP-DEV] Xerces?

2002-10-17 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
Hi, At 03:05 17-10-2002, Alex Black wrote: [...] Still no one has told me what's happening with the XML extension! :) That's all I wanted to know... Are you looking for Xerces support or for a validating XML parser? libxml is validating XML parser and is supported through the domxml

Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:22:04AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure glad this in the headlines again ;-) As Thies knows, I already proposed another important change, which is supporting multiple character sets. This is very important on shared web platforms, and I have experienced

Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:24:24AM +0200, Maxim Maletsky wrote: any OCIParse and set the charset. This would be: 1. more flexible 2. would exclude non-authentication functionality with OCILogon 3. easier to find for a user adding the charset to the logon call is how the others do

Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 03:15:36PM +0200, Maxim Maletsky wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.10.02 14:27:35: I think, at this point, it is up to Thies to review the patch. I hope he's not too harsh on it ;-), since this code is certainly

Re: Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Thies C. Arntzen
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:26:46AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and just to be clear about it: I am absolutely positive on a completely new (perhaps unified) extension for PHP 5, and would gladly participate. hmm, sure - why not. we could start to brainstoorm about that and

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Mike Hall
I would have no problem - as a user - with the removal of short_tags IF ?php=$var? was allowed!! Because the ?= short cut is the only reason I use ? at all! Just to add fuel to the fire ;-) Mike -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 04:29 17/10/2002, .: B i g D o g :. wrote: IMHO, i think that short tags should be taken out of php and just use the ?php to start the parser. Not going to happen, please leave this issue alone. Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit:

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Maxim Maletsky
We should have warned people not to use short tags years ago. We can try it from now. Until we get rid of short tag or disable it by default, we suggest users to work around problem. I really think that whoever adds XML to their applications, will be aware of the fact that short open tag

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 05:11 17/10/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Ilia A. wrote: Isn't BIG caution for short_open_tag=Off while having short_open_tag=On enough for now? Something like; Nope, please consider a hosting enviroment where an average user does not even have access to the php.ini file. In fact, most ISP won't

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Zeev Suraski wrote: No, we shouldn't have. It is not a deprecated feature or a discouraged feature. If you use the *FAIRLY RARE* combination of using PHP to generate XML, you'd have to configure your PHP. If you're with the vast majority of the population and couldn't care less about

Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Maxim Maletsky
Thies C. Arntzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 05:41:59PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Andi. yeah, I will wait for Thies to reply to me. We have sort of a started this discussion with him before, so hopefully he will join into this one. My

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:10 17/10/2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: No, we shouldn't have. It is not a deprecated feature or a discouraged feature. If you use the *FAIRLY RARE* combination of using PHP to generate XML, you'd have to configure your PHP. If you're with the vast majority of the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Maxim Maletsky
Thies C. Arntzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : the ora_ extension uses the pre oracle8 api. if you need to compile with oracle7 libraries you have to use the ora_*() functions. OK, but isn't it a bit confusing? can't all PHP's Oracle functionality depend on the same functionset

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Changing entity charset

2002-10-17 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Wez Furlong wrote: Search for htmlentities charset. Both myself and thies (and probably others were discussing this). In short: there are many, many, many people who have scripts that rely on htmlentities defaulting to iso-8859-1 (the documented default for ever). With the patch, ISO 8859-1

Re: [PHP-DEV] OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Maxim Maletsky
Thies C. Arntzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:24:24AM +0200, Maxim Maletsky wrote: any OCIParse and set the charset. This would be: 1. more flexible 2. would exclude non-authentication functionality with OCILogon 3. easier to find for a user

[PHP-DEV] Is this a bad thing to do? (Unix permissions)

2002-10-17 Thread Gwydion Elderwyn
As part of my new site I have created a php-driven guestbook. The guestbook entries are stored in a file called guestbook.txt. I found that in order to get the script to write to the file, I had to set the directory permissions for the guestbook directory and the guestbook.txt file to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this a bad thing to do? (Unix permissions)

2002-10-17 Thread Tal Peer
Gwydion Elderwyn wrote: As part of my new site I have created a php-driven guestbook. The guestbook entries are stored in a file called guestbook.txt. I found that in order to get the script to write to the file, I had to set the directory permissions for the guestbook directory and the

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Mike Hall wrote: I would have no problem - as a user - with the removal of short_tags IF ?php=$var? was allowed!! Because the ?= short cut is the only reason I use ? at all! Just to add fuel to the fire ;-) I know that. You know that Most of know that it's just another fuel ;) -- Yasuo

RE: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]
-Original Message- From: Yasuo Ohgaki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2002 06:16 [snip] Even if we never change the default, ?php echo ?xml ..?;? works always w/o patch. [snip] We may even have XML processor that processes PHP code in XML documents in the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: OCI extension - OCIQuery() ?

2002-10-17 Thread Maxim Maletsky
Thies C. Arntzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : Hope to see someone to anser, commenting my thoughts on this. I am very much willing contributing to the PHP's Oracle support development. that always appreciated. wher do you want to start? tc Thies, what do you thik of adding

[PHP-DEV] OCI extension - brainstorming

2002-10-17 Thread predator79
just a few thoughts. the OCIQuery that maxim proposed has the advantage of being pretty high-level, making it much easier for mysql programmers to get a grip at oracle, but then again i think that every self-respecting php developer would write a function/method that does this for him ;-).

Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Changing entity charset

2002-10-17 Thread Marcus Börger
At 11:31 17.10.2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Wez Furlong wrote: Search for htmlentities charset. Both myself and thies (and probably others were discussing this). In short: there are many, many, many people who have scripts that rely on htmlentities defaulting to iso-8859-1 (the documented default

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard info.c

2002-10-17 Thread Marcus Börger
Why did you remove the charset info? I want my charset back since it enables correct handling of the output. Everything these lines commented out by you do is telling the receiver what charset he gets. That is compareable to http charset info which will be generated by those modules also. This

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: This is one of the reason why I think we should try to change short_open_tag default. ? is reserved for XML PI (Processing Instruction). There may be many (and/or custom) PI tags and it may become more serious problem in the future. We may even have

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: OCI extension help offer

2002-10-17 Thread Dan Kalowsky
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 04:09 AM, Thies C. Arntzen wrote: you mean renaming the oci8 extension - could be done... but i personally see no pressing reason for doing so. Any chance we can rename the configure option from --with-oci8 to just --with-oci? Since it does work

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: OCI extension - OCIQuery() ?

2002-10-17 Thread Maxim Maletsky
Thies C. Arntzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... : i don't really think it's a needed function as it won't support binding of variables and setting the execute mode. I just noticed that MSSQL has also a very similar case. You have mssql_query() for the queries and mssql_init(),

Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag

2002-10-17 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Andrei Zmievski wrote: I. Am. So. Tired. Of. Seeing. This. Come. Up. Over. And. Over. Again. The next time someone mentions this on the list, I'm grabbing a LART[1] and heading over to their house. So we're not going to turn it off by default? Derick --