[PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Varun Shoor
Hi there, I have been working on an Open Source IDE for PHP but from what i heard in the #php the debugger protocol is no more open in PHP4? And only binaries are distributed and above all it is illegal to reverse engineer the protocol. Why in the world is this done?... I mean PHP is

[PHP-DEV] [IANAL] Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Joey Smith
According to the DMCA [ 1201(f) ], legal precedent [ see http://home.joeysmith.com/~joey/sony-v-connectix.html ], and common practice, there is nothing that prohibts a "clean room implementation". (http://www.boreworms.com/karellen/rev-eng.html). That said: PHP *is* open. The

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-03-21 03:03:00, "Varun Shoor" wrote: working on an Open Source IDE for PHP but from what i heard in the #php the debugger protocol is no more open in PHP4? And only binaries are distributed and above all it is illegal to reverse engineer the protocol. Why in the world is this

Re: [PHP-DEV] [IANAL] Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-03-20 14:22:54, Joey Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told that the Zend Debugger license explicitly prohibits such activity. I, for one, do not begrudge Zend trying to make a little money. Just because some of us manage to live an idealistic world does not mean

Re: [PHP-DEV] [IANAL] Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
WF Personally, I found the Zend IDE a little slow and unresponsive WF on my windows box (most likely down to Java) and I am loath to Try using JIT-enabled JRE (IBM's?), it could improve things... WF I wonder how many other people out there in dev land would like WF to see it working in this

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Björn Schotte
* Stanislav Malyshev wrote: personally know at least two, not counting Zend Debugger. I'm sure there There is no Zend Debugger. I only know of "ZendIDE" which has a zend extension that seems to be a debugger. If there would be a "Zend Debugger", I could say "I want to purchase the Zend