Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-11-01 Thread Stig S. Bakken
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 09:35, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Colin Viebrock wrote: I really think the best solution (not perfect, but best) is to specify some fonts so the pages look nice, and hard code in the ISO-8859-1 font hard code in the ISO-8859-1 font means assuming ISO 8859-1 and use ISO

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-11-01 Thread Marcus Boerger
At 01:40 02.11.2002, Stig S. Bakken wrote: On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 09:35, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Colin Viebrock wrote: I really think the best solution (not perfect, but best) is to specify some fonts so the pages look nice, and hard code in the ISO-8859-1 font hard code in the ISO-8859-1 font

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-10 Thread Moriyoshi Koizumi
Hi, Although I have no font problem differently to yasuo, (Actually I have got Arial Unicode MT) but I've experienced character encoding problem since your recent patch on ext/standard/info.c. How come you concluded that part is unnecesary? I really think the best solution (not perfect,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Colin Viebrock wrote: This is getting a little more complicated than I think is necessary. There are two issues here, I think: a) Fonts. Some people didn't like Arial, so I reverted to letter the browser decide. Some people didn't like that,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-09 Thread Wez Furlong
On 10/09/02, Yasuo Ohgaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, there is no Arial that includes CJK. Arial Unicode MS (that 22MB TTF you'll find in \windows\fonts) seems to do a good job of including virtually all characters known to man. BTW: Colin - there is a bug report about phpinfo() - you are

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-09 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 08:34 9-10-2002, Derick Rethans wrote: For once I agree with yasuo here :) phpinfo() doesn't need to look pretty, it's for _debug_ output. Which means it needs to be as clear as possible. Formatting it for readibility is a plus - you don't want output that's hard to read, as you're already

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-09 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Wez Furlong wrote: On 10/09/02, Yasuo Ohgaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, there is no Arial that includes CJK. Arial Unicode MS (that 22MB TTF you'll find in \windows\fonts) seems to do a good job of including virtually all characters known to man. Hmm... I don't have it under my

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Colin Viebrock
Log: don't define fonts ... use the browser defaults Reason being? Yasuo Ohgaki's post earlier today said: First problem, CSS should not contain specific font name. Otherwise, characters may be broken under some browsers when font does not have type faces needed. Although, to be

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 00:28 9-10-2002, Colin Viebrock wrote: Log: don't define fonts ... use the browser defaults Reason being? Yasuo Ohgaki's post earlier today said: First problem, CSS should not contain specific font name. Otherwise, characters may be broken under some browsers when font

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Colin Viebrock wrote: I'm waiting to hear a response from him on this issue, which might affect my changes to the css page. You forgot to disable automatic char to entities conversion e.g. Followings cannot be Japanese text obviously Ccedil;macr; 9middot;icirc; 9AElig;uuml;

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Colin Viebrock wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki's post earlier today said: First problem, CSS should not contain specific font name. Otherwise, characters may be broken under some browsers when font does not have type faces needed. Although, to be honest, I think his problem is more with the character

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Colin Viebrock
This is getting a little more complicated than I think is necessary. There are two issues here, I think: a) Fonts. Some people didn't like Arial, so I reverted to letter the browser decide. Some people didn't like that, and they'd like the font specifications back in. I'm going to add the

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Colin Viebrock wrote: This is getting a little more complicated than I think is necessary. There are two issues here, I think: a) Fonts. Some people didn't like Arial, so I reverted to letter the browser decide. Some people didn't like that, and they'd like the font specifications back

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Colin Viebrock
a) Fonts. Some people didn't like Arial, so I reverted to letter the browser decide. Some people didn't like that, and they'd like the font specifications back in. This will simply break output under some browser. It's more important to show info, but show a little nicely on some

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Colin Viebrock wrote: a) Fonts. Some people didn't like Arial, so I reverted to letter the browser decide. Some people didn't like that, and they'd like the font specifications back in. This will simply break output under some browser. It's more important to show info, but show a little nicely

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard css.c

2002-10-08 Thread Colin Viebrock
Yes and No. It works withh my browser, but I just happen to know some browsers do not like it. Let's be more conservative. I'd rather have a nice looking page that works on 99% of the browsers, than a not-so-nice looking one that works on 100%. Okay ... so don't output the charset meta tag