Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Brian France
At 9:56 PM +0200 6/21/02, Marcus Börger wrote: >At 20:29 21.06.2002, Brian France wrote: >>At 7:23 PM +0200 6/21/02, Marcus Börger wrote: >>>What i wanted to stree out is that exif uses functions from >>>mbstring if present. >>>That means if mbstring is not present it does not use these and >>>the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Marcus Börger
At 20:29 21.06.2002, Brian France wrote: >At 7:23 PM +0200 6/21/02, Marcus Börger wrote: >>What i wanted to stree out is that exif uses functions from mbstring if >>present. >>That means if mbstring is not present it does not use these and the user >>has to do that stuff for his own. >>If mbstri

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Brian France
At 7:23 PM +0200 6/21/02, Marcus Börger wrote: >What i wanted to stree out is that exif uses functions from mbstring >if present. >That means if mbstring is not present it does not use these and the >user has to do that stuff for his own. >If mbstring is compiled as a shared extension both exif an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Brian France
At 6:57 PM +0100 6/21/02, Wez Furlong wrote: > > >If you do decouple mbstring, please make sure that the mbstring headers > > >are still installed in the pear include directory too! > >If mbstring is built as a shared extension, you need to ensure that it's >headers are also installed in the pea

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Markus Fischer
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 07:23:19PM +0200, Marcus Börger wrote : > If mbstring is compiled as a shared extension both exif and mbstring will > work together perfectly but > exif cannot use mbstring even though it is present and that might/WILL be > confusing to users. How feasible is it to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Wez Furlong
On 21/06/02, "Brian France" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My goal is NOT TO REMOVE mbstring FROM THE ext DIRECTORY. Here is > what I do want: I understood that. > I guess my sales pitch of "can be removed from ext" back fired. :-) > Should of just stuck with "can be built as a shared extensio

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Marcus Börger
At 16:30 21.06.2002, Brian France wrote: >My goal is NOT TO REMOVE mbstring FROM THE ext DIRECTORY. Here is what I >do want: Think we understood that from your first mail! What i wanted to stree out is that exif uses functions from mbstring if present. That means if mbstring is not present it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Brian France
My goal is NOT TO REMOVE mbstring FROM THE ext DIRECTORY. Here is what I do want: I build php for tens of thousands of web servers. Those servers are all over the world. I only want to build one default PHP core apache module that only has the standard core things and then everything else as s

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-21 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Markus Fischer wrote: > I'm +1 on removing ext/session too, it's a pretty good idea. > We can do this along with ext/standard as long as the user > knows what they're doing ... I guess what he meant was that there is '--disable-session' to disable the session extension. -- Sebastian Bergm

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-20 Thread Markus Fischer
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 08:44:39AM +0900, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote : > IMO, removing mbstring from PHP is ok as long as user > knows what they are doing. We can remove other internal > modules, such as session module also. I'm +1 on removing ext/session too, it's a pretty good idea. We can do

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-20 Thread Marcus Börger
At 01:44 21.06.2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: >Brian France wrote: >>Ok, what does exif need from mbstring, code wise? Taking a look at it I >>don't see any references to mbstring in the code. > >exif needs mbstring to handle multibyte chars. Correct ext/exif will work without ext/mbstring but the u

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-20 Thread Brian France
I was just using the ability to remove mbstring from ext as a selling point to get the patch into PHP. Stays or goes is up to you guys. :-) What I am doing for work is setting up a bare PHP that can be installed on all server and then who ever needs mbstring, xml, xslt or what ever extension c

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-20 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Brian France wrote: > Ok, what does exif need from mbstring, code wise? Taking a look at it I > don't see any references to mbstring in the code. > exif needs mbstring to handle multibyte chars. IMO, removing mbstring from PHP is ok as long as user knows what they are doing. We can remove oth

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-20 Thread Brian France
Ok, what does exif need from mbstring, code wise? Taking a look at it I don't see any references to mbstring in the code. Thanks, Brian At 8:27 PM +0200 6/20/02, Marcus Börger wrote: >You will break ext/exif when removing mbstrings current integration > >At 04:17 20.06.2002, you wrote: >>I am

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: cvs: php4 /ext/mbstring mbstring.c

2002-06-20 Thread Marcus Börger
You will break ext/exif when removing mbstrings current integration At 04:17 20.06.2002, you wrote: >I am testing a patch that allows mbstring to be built as a shared >extension instead of static. This would allow removing any reference to >mbstring from the core PHP code and making mbstring m