[PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread Jani Taskinen

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Lindsay Haisley wrote:

Your old website was simply one of the most beautiful and elegant
combinations of PHP and very nice page design I've ever seen!  I used to
use it as an example in talks and instruction on HTML design.  Alas, it
is no more.  While you've possibly packed more information into the new
design, it lacks the nice little features that made the old site quite
special and attractive.  Now it's just like any other website :(

In particular, from the point of view of a PHP programmer, I miss the
link to quick references on the top page, although I managed to find it
by searching for "quickref" and have bookmarked the page.  Your top page
says that it's on the Manuals page, but look as I might I couldn't find
it there using Netscape for Linux.


My thoughts exactly! I hate that new look. It's..depressing!
I must have missed some discussion about the new web design?
And when was it decided (and by WHO?!) that this new design is ok?

e.g. The font is not Linux-Netscape-friendly and the manual is so
screwed now. Very hard to read. BIGGER fonts please.

--Jani



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread Andrei Zmievski

On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Jani Taskinen wrote:
 My thoughts exactly! I hate that new look. It's..depressing!
 I must have missed some discussion about the new web design?
 And when was it decided (and by WHO?!) that this new design is ok?
 
 e.g. The font is not Linux-Netscape-friendly and the manual is so
 screwed now. Very hard to read. BIGGER fonts please.

Works fine for me in Linux-Netscape and the fonts are fine too.

-Andrei

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discovering ways to circumvent limitations.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread Jani Taskinen

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrei Zmievski wrote:

On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Jani Taskinen wrote:
 My thoughts exactly! I hate that new look. It's..depressing!
 I must have missed some discussion about the new web design?
 And when was it decided (and by WHO?!) that this new design is ok?

 e.g. The font is not Linux-Netscape-friendly and the manual is so
 screwed now. Very hard to read. BIGGER fonts please.

Works fine for me in Linux-Netscape and the fonts are fine too.

Oh? Have you installed some truetype support? As for me the fonts
are way too small and some look like lego-blocks. :)

--Jani



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread Jani Taskinen

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Colin Viebrock wrote:

 Oh? Have you installed some truetype support? As for me the fonts
 are way too small and some look like lego-blocks. :)

Can you too look again?  At least look at http://ca.php.net (which I
can update instantly).

Well, it's better now. At least I can now actually READ most of the text.
:)

I changed the style sheet to use percentages instead of absolute pixel or
point sizes.  Does that make things look better for Jani, and still look ok
for Andrei?

But the h2 / h3 / h1 elements look like lego-blocks for me. :)
This must be caused by the fact that I don't have Arial font in my
system..using the defaults fonts (overriding the document specified)
'fixes' this. Why not use 'Verdana' ? It's more readable font, IMO.

--Jani



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread Colin Viebrock

 But the h2 / h3 / h1 elements look like lego-blocks for me. :)
 This must be caused by the fact that I don't have Arial font in my
 system..using the defaults fonts (overriding the document specified)
 'fixes' this. Why not use 'Verdana' ? It's more readable font, IMO.

If you don't have Arial, shouldn't your browser go to the next font in the
list (i.e. Helvetica)?

I can't find your first email ... did you mention what browser/platform this
is on?

- Colin


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread Jani Taskinen

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Colin Viebrock wrote:

 But the h2 / h3 / h1 elements look like lego-blocks for me. :)
 This must be caused by the fact that I don't have Arial font in my
 system..using the defaults fonts (overriding the document specified)
 'fixes' this. Why not use 'Verdana' ? It's more readable font, IMO.

If you don't have Arial, shouldn't your browser go to the next font in the
list (i.e. Helvetica)?

Heh, 'should' yes, but it doesn't.

I can't find your first email ... did you mention what browser/platform this
is on?

Netscape 4.75 / Linux

--Jani



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: What have you done to your website!!! ???

2001-03-08 Thread André Langhorst


 Can you too look again?  At least look at http://ca.php.net (which I
 can update instantly).

minor issues:

1) with mozilla I get horizontal scrollbar with 800x600, it should be no 
problem to eleminate this one

2) usage stats should be in the navigation (downloads | documentation | 
support | reporting bugs | links) like this

usage stats february (1.500 zillon pages)
downloads | documentation | support | reporting bugs | links

3) left next to "search for" we could provide some quicklinks pointing 
to the most current builds (left aligned)

4) "tips and trick" and "improve your skills aka. books" should be links 
in the upper navigation bar only

5) where is "projects" ??

andr

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