Re: [PHP-DEV] php got stomped on in shootout, but shouldn't have...

2001-05-05 Thread Nolan Andres

http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2646800,00.html

has a small table outlining the results of a page-based script language
shootout between PHP, ASP, ColdFusion and JSP...PHP was the fastest, but in
the accompanying review it was criticized somewhat for its lack of mature
development tools and its eclectic set of functions (especially the lack of
a standard database-independent API).

PHP can be used outside a web environment, too, but I don't know how the
performance stacks up against Java or C in that respect. I would assume it's
slower, being interpreted and all, but it *was* significantly faster than
JSP which often byte-compiles to servlets, so...

peace,
Nolan

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  Howdy.  So I was checking out Perl, Ruby, and Java's
  performance specs on a language shootout, and PHP got stomped on.
  It was safely sitting at the bottom of the list (check out the score
  card page).
 
 
  http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/

 Ouch, this sucks...  cool fucking site, though.  Has anyone
 done any benchmarks on this kinda stuff to see if PHP's faster than
 Java or how it stacks up to C?  -Hans

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Re: [PHP-DEV] php got stomped on in shootout, but shouldn't have...

2001-05-05 Thread Sterling Hughes

On Sat, 5 May 2001, Nolan Andres wrote:


AHH!! not this thread again

*flashback*

-Sterling

(Original poster:: No offense, we just discussed this to death when the
article came out ;)

 http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2646800,00.html

 has a small table outlining the results of a page-based script language
 shootout between PHP, ASP, ColdFusion and JSP...PHP was the fastest, but in
 the accompanying review it was criticized somewhat for its lack of mature
 development tools and its eclectic set of functions (especially the lack of
 a standard database-independent API).

 PHP can be used outside a web environment, too, but I don't know how the
 performance stacks up against Java or C in that respect. I would assume it's
 slower, being interpreted and all, but it *was* significantly faster than
 JSP which often byte-compiles to servlets, so...

 peace,
 Nolan

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   Howdy.  So I was checking out Perl, Ruby, and Java's
   performance specs on a language shootout, and PHP got stomped on.
   It was safely sitting at the bottom of the list (check out the score
   card page).
  
  
   http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/
 
  Ouch, this sucks...  cool fucking site, though.  Has anyone
  done any benchmarks on this kinda stuff to see if PHP's faster than
  Java or how it stacks up to C?  -Hans
 
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[PHP-DEV] php got stomped on in shootout, but shouldn't have...

2001-05-04 Thread Sean Chittenden

Howdy.  So I was checking out Perl, Ruby, and Java's
performance specs on a language shootout, and PHP got stomped on.  It
was safely sitting at the bottom of the list (check out the score card
page).

http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/


The good news is, the reason it got stomped on wasn't because
of the language, it was because it wasn't represented.  So what's the
deal here?  The only test that PHP was enrolled in was the Ackermann's
Function.  How could 25 other languages (some I'd never heard of
before), have better community support than the beast that is PHP?
I'd really like to know how well PHP would stack up compared to these
other languages (esp Java) if well represented.


Hacking in C (grudgingly),
  Sean


PS What really happened was I just had PHP nuked as a viable
language for a contract job I was doing (now doing it in C) because
the CTO came back and referenced PHP's performance on this page.  The
CTO's bright, but an old stodgy UNIX/C programmer that wouldn't give.

-- 
Sean Chittenden

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Re: [PHP-DEV] php got stomped on in shootout, but shouldn't have...

2001-05-04 Thread Zak Greant

If you grab the gent's 'shootout' tarball, you will find that there is not a
single PHP file in it.

This makes it very hard to evaluate. ;)

Perhaps write him a pleasant letter and let him know that you lost a
contract over his incomplete evaluation.

--zak

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Re: [PHP-DEV] php got stomped on in shootout, but shouldn't have...

2001-05-04 Thread teo

Hi Sean!
On Fri, 04 May 2001, Sean Chittenden wrote:

   Howdy.  So I was checking out Perl, Ruby, and Java's
 performance specs on a language shootout, and PHP got stomped on.  It
 was safely sitting at the bottom of the list (check out the score card
 page).
 
 http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/
 
 
   The good news is, the reason it got stomped on wasn't because
 of the language, it was because it wasn't represented.  So what's the
 deal here?  The only test that PHP was enrolled in was the Ackermann's
 Function.  How could 25 other languages (some I'd never heard of
 before), have better community support than the beast that is PHP?
 I'd really like to know how well PHP would stack up compared to these
 other languages (esp Java) if well represented.
 
 
   Hacking in C (grudgingly),
 Sean
 
 
   PS What really happened was I just had PHP nuked as a viable
 language for a contract job I was doing (now doing it in C) because
 the CTO came back and referenced PHP's performance on this page.  The
 CTO's bright, but an old stodgy UNIX/C programmer that wouldn't give.
 
uhm, I think your CTO shows serious I/O errors, as he failed to read some
interesting sectors of the main page:
e.g.

Disclaimer No. 1: I'm just a beginner in many of these languages, so if you can help me
  improve any of the tests, please drop me an email.  Thanks.
  
Disclaimer No. 2: These pages are provided for novelty
  purposes only.  Any other use voids the manufacturer's warranty.
  Do not mix with alchohol.  Some contents may consist of recycled
  materials.

The flaw was so evident that he didn't see it.
  
-- teodor

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Re: [PHP-DEV] php got stomped on in shootout, but shouldn't have...

2001-05-04 Thread hzimmer

   Howdy.  So I was checking out Perl, Ruby, and Java's
 performance specs on a language shootout, and PHP got stomped on.
 It was safely sitting at the bottom of the list (check out the score
 card page).

 
 http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/

Ouch, this sucks...  cool fucking site, though.  Has anyone
done any benchmarks on this kinda stuff to see if PHP's faster than
Java or how it stacks up to C?  -Hans

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