Re: [PHP-DEV] crontab support for PHP

2001-07-30 Thread Ramsi Sras


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"Stig S. Bakken" schrieb:
Max Landborn wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I'm new to this list, therefore I do not know if you have discussed
this
> matter before. I'm interested in something like crontab for PHP.
This should
> be plattform independent and easy to maintain. I have a few ideas
of how to
> implement it even though I'm rather new to PHP.
>
> I'm do not have much experience of crontab but I have the need for
something
> like it on Windows. Also, if you have PHP compiled as a module there
is, in
> my opinion, no good way of schedule running of scripts.
>
> What are your thoughts on the matter?
Uhm, why not simply run PHP scripts from cron? Or did you want
something inside a web server environment?
- Stig
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Re: [PHP-DEV] crontab support for PHP

2001-07-30 Thread Ramsi Sras


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Max Landborn schrieb:
> Max Landborn wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > I'm new to this list, therefore I do not know if you have discussed
this
> > matter before. I'm interested in something like crontab for PHP.
This
should
> > be plattform independent and easy to maintain. I have a few ideas
of how
to
> > implement it even though I'm rather new to PHP.
> >
> > I'm do not have much experience of crontab but I have the need
for
something
> > like it on Windows. Also, if you have PHP compiled as a module
there is,
in
> > my opinion, no good way of schedule running of scripts.
> >
> > What are your thoughts on the matter?
>
> Uhm, why not simply run PHP scripts from cron? Or did you want
> something inside a web server environment?
>
> - Stig
>
> --
I am beginning to think that this was not such a good idea that it seemed
to
me at first. :)
Perhaps the subject line should have read "built-in cron in PHP".
But if I have PHP compiled as an Apache module (as it is on most web
hosting
services), I have to set up the cron job to use something like lynx
to load
a PHP page. I don't think that is a good way of doing it. Also, it
works
only on Unix. To use the task scheduler on Windows I belive on has
to have
Administrator privileges and on many Unix hosts you are not allowed
to set
up your own cron jobs.
But making a built-in cron is probably not the right solution. Switching
to
a better host is.
/Max
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Re: [PHP-DEV] crontab support for PHP

2001-07-29 Thread Stig S. Bakken

Max Landborn wrote:
 
 Hello everyone!
 
 I'm new to this list, therefore I do not know if you have discussed this
 matter before. I'm interested in something like crontab for PHP. This should
 be plattform independent and easy to maintain. I have a few ideas of how to
 implement it even though I'm rather new to PHP.
 
 I'm do not have much experience of crontab but I have the need for something
 like it on Windows. Also, if you have PHP compiled as a module there is, in
 my opinion, no good way of schedule running of scripts.
 
 What are your thoughts on the matter?

Uhm, why not simply run PHP scripts from cron?  Or did you want
something inside a web server environment?

 - Stig

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Re: [PHP-DEV] crontab support for PHP

2001-07-29 Thread Max Landborn

 Max Landborn wrote:
 
  Hello everyone!
 
  I'm new to this list, therefore I do not know if you have discussed this
  matter before. I'm interested in something like crontab for PHP. This
should
  be plattform independent and easy to maintain. I have a few ideas of how
to
  implement it even though I'm rather new to PHP.
 
  I'm do not have much experience of crontab but I have the need for
something
  like it on Windows. Also, if you have PHP compiled as a module there is,
in
  my opinion, no good way of schedule running of scripts.
 
  What are your thoughts on the matter?

 Uhm, why not simply run PHP scripts from cron?  Or did you want
 something inside a web server environment?

  - Stig

 --

I am beginning to think that this was not such a good idea that it seemed to
me at first. :)

Perhaps the subject line should have read built-in cron in PHP.

But if I have PHP compiled as an Apache module (as it is on most web hosting
services), I have to set up the cron job to use something like lynx to load
a PHP page. I don't think that is a good way of doing it. Also, it works
only on Unix. To use the task scheduler on Windows I belive on has to have
Administrator privileges and on many Unix hosts you are not allowed to set
up your own cron jobs.

But making a built-in cron is probably not the right solution. Switching to
a better host is.

/Max


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Re: [PHP-DEV] crontab support for PHP

2001-07-29 Thread Stephen van Egmond

Stig S. Bakken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Uhm, why not simply run PHP scripts from cron?  Or did you want
 something inside a web server environment?

I personally have been looking for something similar.  AOLServer has
this facility:
http://www.aolserver.com/docs/tcldev/tapi-114.htm

and believe me, it rocks.

The problem it solves is this: in larger production environments,
people have usually figured out how to use CVS to do revision control
for what goes up on a web site.  cron is one of those annoying things
that has to live outside of CVS.  In a team where there can be many
people on the web server, people DO edit the cron tab, forget to save
their changes, and people only discover the problem when something
stops working.

FWIW, I'm designing a few improvements to the Apache SAPI
implementation that might make this improvement. I don't think it
belongs in the language itself though.

- Steve

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