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It would mean we'd need to have nested classes. or limit namespaces to only contain classes: namespace::namespace::...::class::method(); is there a reason why a namespace should contain anything other than classes ? we have static functions and static members in classes, no need for them in namespaces too. we can still have classes and namespaces with the same name this way, because a namespace must always be followed by at least one '::' and there is no Foo::bar() class/namespace ambiguity because a namespace can't contain a function. harald. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Quoting Harald Radi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: is there a reason why a namespace should contain anything other than classes ? we have static functions and static members in classes, no need for them in namespaces too. We don't have static members. And we need namespaces for constants, also. -chuck -- Charles Hagenbuch, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some fallen angels have their good reasons. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We don't have static members.
but we will in ze2 !?
And we need namespaces for
constants, also.
why ?
class Foo {
final $BAR = blah;
}
namespace Foo;
class Bar {
static function bar() {
echo $Foo::BAR;
}
}
if (Foo::Bar::bar() === $Foo::BAR) {
echo juhuuu;
} else {
echo damn;
}
you have classes, you have constants, you have functions, ... what more
do you want ?
harald.
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Quoting Harald Radi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
And we need namespaces for
constants, also.
why ?
class Foo {
final $BAR = blah;
}
I'm sorry, I haven't been following all of this - is 'final' a keyword that
will be available (and enforced) in ze2?
-chuck
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I'm sorry, I haven't been following all of this - is 'final' a keyword that will be available (and enforced) in ze2? i don't either, but how else will you bind constants to a class / namespace ? -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, Harald Radi wrote:
why ?
class Foo {
final $BAR = blah;
}
namespace Foo;
class Bar {
static function bar() {
echo $Foo::BAR;
}
}
if (Foo::Bar::bar() === $Foo::BAR) {
echo juhuuu;
} else {
echo damn;
}
you have classes, you have constants, you have functions, ... what more
do you want ?
I don't think emulating constants with static members is a good idea.
For one, it'd require introducing 'final' keyword and so on.
-Andrei
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, Harald Radi wrote: i don't either, but how else will you bind constants to a class / namespace ? echo Foo::CONSTANT; -Andrei Try to spend the next 30 seconds not thinking about a blue-eyed polar bear. -Feodor Dostoevsky -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i don't either, but how else will you bind constants to a class / namespace ? echo Foo::CONSTANT; yes, but how do you define them ? if it's like this: namespace Foo; define(CONSTANT, 123); it won't be a problem either because then a class can't contain such a definition (yet) and there won't be any ambiguities too. harald. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, Harald Radi wrote: yes, but how do you define them ? if it's like this: namespace Foo; define(CONSTANT, 123); it won't be a problem either because then a class can't contain such a definition (yet) and there won't be any ambiguities too. That's how I was thinking they would be defined. Funny, but my automated signature somehow seems relevant to this. -Andrei In this age, which believes that there is a short cut to everything, the greatest lesson to be learned is that the most difficult way is, in the long run, the easiest. -Henry Miller, The Books in My Life -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 06:19:01PM +0200, Harald Radi wrote: i don't either, but how else will you bind constants to a class / namespace ? echo Foo::CONSTANT; yes, but how do you define them ? if it's like this: namespace Foo; define(CONSTANT, 123); On perhaps optionally: define(CONSTANT, 123, 'Foo'); ... which will define the constant in the namespace 'Foo'. It might also make sense to allow: define(Foo::CONSTANT, 123); -- Jon Parise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Information Technology (2001) http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 17:16 01-10-01, Chuck Hagenbuch wrote: Quoting Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sigh I step away from the computer for the weekend, and such an interesting discussion ensues. For the record, I'd vote for either unifying classes and namespaces (I like that approach) As do I... Andi, Zeev - are there technical problems with this? We're working according to the RFC - namespaces and classes are separate entities. Yes, but it seems the RFC has gotten some Comments, it may be time for a revised version. - Stig -- Stig Sæther Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fast Search Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
