[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard config.m4 css.c css.h info.c /main php_ini.c /sapi/aolserver aolserver.c /sapi/apache php_apache.c
Michael Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colin Viebrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: render nicely is something else than total unreadable to me. Did you have a look at it with Netscape Navigator 4? Please fix something for it, as it's pretty horrible now. Can you send me a screen grab? I did test it under NS 4.7 (Win), and I think you're exaggerating a bit, because it's hardly unreadable. With Netscape 4.7x on Linux and Windows, I see a lot of vertical whitespace in some places, e.g. directly after PHP Core there's a screen full of nothing. Please disregard my previous post - your current version 1.22 of css.c looks great, at least in Netscape 4.x, Opera 6.0 and Mozilla 1.2a on Linux. Regards... Michael -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard config.m4 css.c css.h info.c /main php_ini.c /sapi/aolserver aolserver.c /sapi/apache php_apache.c
At 11:01 AM 9/24/2002 -0400, Colin Viebrock wrote: It obviously is not compatible with current browsers as it is really ugly in IE and NS. It looks pretty much identical to the way it did before in MSIE 5+ and NS 6+ and Mozilla. It only looks ugly (i.e. not as nice as before) in NS 4.x, a broswer that almost no one uses anymore. Indeed, why did you have to change it? Just to get CSS in there? As I said, it was to reduce the size of the file considerably. Just out of curiosity, what was the size before/after? Andi -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard config.m4 css.c css.h info.c /main php_ini.c /sapi/aolserver aolserver.c /sapi/apache php_apache.c
On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Colin Viebrock wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: render nicely is something else than total unreadable to me. Did you have a look at it with Netscape Navigator 4? Please fix something for it, as it's pretty horrible now. Can you send me a screen grab? I did test it under NS 4.7 (Win), and I think you're exaggerating a bit, because it's hardly unreadable. I guess my other question is how far back are we willing to care about browser compatability? Netscape 4.7 is now 3 years old and accounts for less 5% of the traffic we've seen at easyDNS in the last year (I don't think the stats program at www.php.net tracks browsers unfortunately). I must have missed some discussion where it was decided to change this..? Can't seem to find any in the archives either. And why is there even need to change it? It has worked fine (for ANY browser) for very long time now. --Jani -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard config.m4 css.c css.h info.c/main php_ini.c /sapi/aolserver aolserver.c /sapi/apache php_apache.c
Jani Taskinen wrote: And why is there even need to change it? It has worked fine (for ANY browser) for very long time now. The latest changes by Colin are a big improvement, IMHO. It really looks better now. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard config.m4 css.c css.h info.c /main php_ini.c /sapi/aolserver aolserver.c /sapi/apache php_apache.c
I must have missed some discussion where it was decided to change this..? Can't seem to find any in the archives either. There wasn't. And why is there even need to change it? It has worked fine (for ANY browser) for very long time now. I was simply trying to reduce the amount of HTML that phpinfo() generated, and moving to a CSS formatting model acheived that while still maintaining compatability for current browsers. My question back would be how many people here *really* care what the output looks like? Is anyone making that info available in a production site? I doubt it. I'm guessing this page is almost exclusively used for debugging purposes by site developers, or other diagnostic reasons ... in which case as long as the info is there and legible, I don't see the issue. However, if there are, then you can easily replace the stylesheet with your own style to skin the page ... something that would've been much more difficult with the old version. The HTML itself in the current page is as plain as it gets, pretty much. If we want a truly cross-browser phpinfo() page, it should be text-only or plain, unformatted, uncoloured tables. - Colin -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
