Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-07 Thread Zeev Suraski
I differ with you regarding whether we can or cannot tell people to pause development for a few weeks. Regardless, if we want to allow people to develop, I suggested using development branches (or branch), instead of using a release branch, for most of the duration of this release cycle.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-07 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 10:00:57AM -0400, Dan Kalowsky wrote : Here is an option though. Release RC1. We know it's buggy, we know it's got a lot of problems, and we know that we don't know them all. The stigma that snapshots are unstable isn't going to be changed in the next few days,

[PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
I think that given the circumstances, we should scratch the 4.3 branch and stick to the main branch for this particular release, at least until we're very close to the release itself. The vast majority of CVS traffic going on these days is bug fixes anyway, so creating the branch only makes

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think that given the circumstances, we should scratch the 4.3 branch and stick to the main branch for this particular release, at least until we're very close to the release itself. The vast majority of CVS traffic going on these days is bug

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Sander Roobol
+1 on removing the branch - to avoid problems with staying in sync with head -1 on the php5 module - it'll move the sync problems to another place Sander On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 11:01:02AM +0200, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think that given the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Sander Roobol wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 11:01:02AM +0200, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think that given the circumstances, we should scratch the 4.3 branch and stick to the main branch for this particular release, at least

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
I think we'd be better off waiting a bit with the php5 move. In general I just don't think we can push a successful release while we continue developing. If we concentrate on getting 4.3 out the door within a month, we can then concentrate on php5. Zeev At 13:33 06/10/2002, Derick Rethans

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think we'd be better off waiting a bit with the php5 move. In general I just don't think we can push a successful release while we continue developing. If we concentrate on getting 4.3 out the door within a month, we can then concentrate on

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Edin Kadribasic
On Sunday 06 October 2002 10:54, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think that given the circumstances, we should scratch the 4.3 branch and stick to the main branch for this particular release, at least until we're very close to the release itself. The vast majority of CVS traffic going on these days is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Dan Kalowsky
Since for some reason I didn't get Zeev's original message, I'll just hack in responses here... :) On Sunday, October 6, 2002, at 05:01 AM, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: I think that given the circumstances, we should scratch the 4.3 branch and stick to

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
Hi, whether to drop it/name it differently doesn't really fix anything. You need to sync at some point. I personally prefer to work on the branch, since that will get the attention of QA and RC processes and after release, merge everything into HEAD. But that would require, that HEAD remains

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
I don't think we can just not provide some place for people to work on new code. We have way too many extensions in various states of development to just arbitrarily tell everyone to stop what they are doing. The ext/xslt work going on right now is a good example along with the image rotation

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 18:18 6-10-2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: When the implicit_flush mess is resolved and Melvyn gives the thumbs up for the Sablotron stuff then I think we are ready for RC1. We're not entering any new features anymore. If we don't hear this doesn't compile / work, and David has supplied a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
Hello, On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the image rotation functions for GD that are waiting in the wings. I just updated the sources (http://www.pearfr.org/phpgd), it seems to work well now(2'bugs' fixed). If it is urgent, I can add now the php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Pierre-Alain Joye wrote: Hello, On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the image rotation functions for GD that are waiting in the wings. I just updated the sources (http://www.pearfr.org/phpgd), it seems to work well

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very tempted to clean up the GD source. I hate the way it is formatted. Same here, it s a pain to work with it, as well as the big amout of different functions in the same file ;-) Nothing has happened

Re: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread Pierre-Alain Joye
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 01:36:16 +0200 Pierre-Alain Joye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do believe I ve write access to /php4 (only php4/pear), I never need it, except now for the gd. oops :) I do not believe I ve got the write access to the php4 cvs tree :-) -- PHP Development Mailing List

RE: [PHP-DEV] Scratching the 4.3 branch

2002-10-06 Thread James Cox
Btw, it will be very usefull if someone can add $id and a little TODO inside the gd source :-))) I am very tempted to clean up the GD source. I hate the way it is formatted. Nothing has happened since March 2001 from the Boutell folks despite numerous bug patches sent their way.