RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-02-01 Thread Melvyn Sopacua
At 17:11 31-1-2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: What is the checkout date here? Let's focus on the real issue. The issue is not which date - it is a means to asses, which source changes broke/fixed anything. Something along this line, is looking at the issue, not the indicator: find . -type f

Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Kai Schröder wrote: Hi all, I'm working on a new framework for analyzing results of make test for QA Team (see php-qa list). Talking with Sebastian Nohn, I realized, that we can't differ the versions in detail. That means, that we can't say which source

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Kai Schrder
I suppose we can have the snapshot generator do that, but it would still hard to differentiate between CVS versions then. Sounds a little bit stupid, but why the snapshot generator can't simply commit a changed /main/php_version.h every 2 hours? The php-cvs mailer should ignore the commits

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Kai Schröder wrote: I suppose we can have the snapshot generator do that, but it would still hard to differentiate between CVS versions then. Sounds a little bit stupid, but why the snapshot generator can't simply commit a changed /main/php_version.h every 2 hours?

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Kai Schrder
That can be done, but that means 12 commits a day for a single file. I dont think that's a good idea. That's true. Now we have round about 30 commits each day. 12 more will make less than 5.000 blocks (5MB for 1k-blocks) more disk usage per year. Where do you see the real problem if the commits

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread James Aylett
I suppose we can have the snapshot generator do that, but it would still hard to differentiate between CVS versions then. Sounds a little bit stupid, but why the snapshot generator can't simply commit a changed /main/php_version.h every 2 hours? That can be done, but that means 12

Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Kai Schröder wrote: That's true. Now we have round about 30 commits each day. 12 more will make less than 5.000 blocks (5MB for 1k-blocks) more disk usage per year. Where do you see the real problem if the commits are not mailed to php-cvs list? that is 12 commits per day to a single file

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sascha Schumann
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, [ISO-8859-15] Kai Schröder wrote: That can be done, but that means 12 commits a day for a single file. I dont think that's a good idea. That's true. Now we have round about 30 commits each day. 12 more will make less than 5.000 blocks (5MB for 1k-blocks) more disk

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, James Aylett wrote: I suppose we can have the snapshot generator do that, but it would still hard to differentiate between CVS versions then. Sounds a little bit stupid, but why the snapshot generator can't simply commit a changed /main/php_version.h every 2

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Kai Schroder wrote: Sascha found a simple but good solution: date /CURRENT_TIME This can be done ... for manual checkouts without changing source files in cvs. How is that possible? Derick --

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread James Aylett
Derrick wrote: date /CURRENT_TIME This can be done ... for manual checkouts without changing source files in cvs. How is that possible? I don't think it is, because it needs to be done at checkout time, not at build time. I previously suggested (with Derrick's reply): Is the

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Kai Schroder
Sascha found a simple but good solution: date /CURRENT_TIME This can be done by snapshot generator and for manual checkouts without changing source files in cvs. Than /run-tests.php can send the content of this file with the test results. Regards, Kai -- PHP Development Mailing List

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sascha Schumann
How is that possible? I don't think it is, because it needs to be done at checkout time, not at build time. What are you smoking? That's a one line addition to the snapshot script. - Sascha, creator, snaps.php.net -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: How is that possible? I don't think it is, because it needs to be done at checkout time, not at build time. What are you smoking? That's a one line addition to the snapshot script. For manual checkouts that has nothing to do

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sascha Schumann
For manual checkouts that has nothing to do with snapshots, so he isn't smoking anything. echo test -r CHECKOUT_TIME || date CHECKOUT_TIME buildconf would be sufficient for that case. It's not perfect, because it is conceivable that someone does not run buildconf

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: For manual checkouts that has nothing to do with snapshots, so he isn't smoking anything. echo test -r CHECKOUT_TIME || date CHECKOUT_TIME buildconf would be sufficient for that case. It's not perfect, because it is

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sascha Schumann
It's not actually, as we were just trying to *solve* this problem and prevent getting test results with the wrong date/time. So what happens if I do this? cd php4 cvs upd and a day later do this? cd php4/ext/standard cvs upd What is the checkout date

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Derick Rethans
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sascha Schumann wrote: It's not actually, as we were just trying to *solve* this problem and prevent getting test results with the wrong date/time. So what happens if I do this? cd php4 cvs upd and a day later do this? cd

Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, So what happens if I do this? cd php4 cvs upd and a day later do this? cd php4/ext/standard cvs upd What is the checkout date here? I've no idea, do you? I think we just should not allow submissions with test results if

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread James Aylett
Sascha: $ cd php4; cvs upd and a day later $ cd php4/ext/standard; cvs upd What is the checkout date here? It should be the time of the second update, if anything. Now it /is/ possible to find this out (by getting the most recent modification date of any CVS control file in the

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sascha Schumann
I've no idea, do you? I think we just should not allow submissions with test results if they're not made by a snapshot or our phport.sh thingy for automatic testing. If that phport.sh thingy reliably ensures the integrity of the source files, it could work. Have CVS $Id$'s been

[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-QA] RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Kai Schroder
This line will give you the timestamp from the latest checked in file: find . -type f|xargs grep '$Id: ' |grep -v Binary |\ sed 's#.*\([12].../../.. ..:..:..\).*#\1#'| sort | tail -1 This should also work with cvs export, does it? Can we add this to build system as

Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Xavier Spriet
A very simple solution would simply be to do something like ls --full-time configure that allows you to find at what exact time buildconf was used so pretty much when it was built. This would be much easier to implement since you don't have to touch CVS at any time for that... right ? On Fri,

RE: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread John Coggeshall
That can be done, but that means 12 commits a day for a single file. I dont think that's a good idea. Is there some way we can harness CVS keyword subsitutuion in a case like this? John -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: