[PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Piotr Sobolewski
Hi, I would like to know in advance when PHP 5 will be released. Can I find a sort of "roadmap" somewhere? Where should I look at regularly to know if it is going to be released soon? Can somebody tell me approximately when it will happen? 3 months? Year? -- Piotr Sobolewski [EMAIL PROTECTED

[PHP-DEV] PHP 5.0.0-dev with J2sdk1.4.1_01 on Linux

2003-01-23 Thread Seung Hwan Kang
Is a Java extension removed or intensionally left over from PHP 5.0.0-dev? I have no error messge when I configured PHP 5.0.0-dev with a java extension (--with-java=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_01) on linux machine (kernel 2.4.20-2). I don't have any problem with make and make install too. Only problem

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.0.0-dev with J2sdk1.4.1_01 on Linux

2003-01-23 Thread Wez Furlong
Because it is now a part of the rpc extension, which currently does not build under unix (but will do in the not too distant future). --Wez. On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Seung Hwan Kang wrote: > Is a Java extension removed or intensionally left over from PHP 5.0.0-dev? > > I have no error messge when I

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
> I would like to know in advance when PHP 5 will be released. So would we. We have no idea. Sometime in the next 4-18 months. How's that? > Can I find a sort of "roadmap" somewhere? We are well past the roadmap and into the TODO stage now. Our trusted secretary, Sebastian, has been maint

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:41 23/01/2003, Piotr Sobolewski wrote: Can somebody tell me approximately when it will happen? 3 months? Year? If everything works properly, it should be out before the end of the year, hopefully around Q3. We'll start to release betas in the very near future (weeks), so you'd be able to

[PHP-DEV] removed extensions not in NEWS

2003-01-23 Thread Friedhelm Betz
Hi, it seems that db++ and muscat are no longer available in 4.3.0 From the docs (scanned source files by Hartmut): db++ : 4.1.0 - 4.2.3 only muscat : 4.0.5 - 4.2.3 only Both extensions have entries in pear/PECL CVS, the one of db++ is empty, muscat files are rather old (the most recent chan

RE: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread John Coggeshall
I am working on some reader-friendly docs to answer this question, but for now you can read the ZEND_CHANGES file in the PHP CVS John >-Original Message- >From: Piotr Sobolewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:41 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [PHP-D

RE: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread John Coggeshall
The reason I ask is that Shane Caraveo and I were working on the thread saftey issue, but we couldn't talk about it because we weren't invited to the PHP5-DEV list >-Original Message- >From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:51 AM >To: Piotr So

[PHP-DEV] Register Shutdown Function for Apache

2003-01-23 Thread Joseph Tate
I can have the patches ready to go in a very short amount of time. I'll work on and post them if I can be reasonably sure they'll be committed. I'm tired of spinning my wheels with this though. I've got a personally patched version of 4.3.0 that will be going into production in a few weeks, so I

RE: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, John Coggeshall wrote: > The reason I ask is that Shane Caraveo and I were working on the thread > saftey issue, but we couldn't talk about it because we weren't invited > to the PHP5-DEV list I had nothing to do with that limited php5 list. I thought that was completely bog

RE: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
Rasmus, The whole point of the list was to avoid threads like this letter is going to spawn. Let's stop it here, please. John - if you feel you belong in php5-dev(*) and want to actively participate in the discussions, we'll add you. The point of php5-dev was to create a working group for ge

Re: [PHP-DEV] Register Shutdown Function for Apache

2003-01-23 Thread Tamas Arpad
On Thursday 23 January 2003 17:38, Joseph Tate wrote: > I can have the patches ready to go in a very short amount of time. I'll > work on and post them if I can be reasonably sure they'll be committed. > I'm tired of spinning my wheels with this though. I've got a personally > patched version of

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: whizzart

2003-01-23 Thread Arnoud van Delden
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Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Dan Kalowsky
Then discontinue it. End of discussion. This is an open source project, and I see little to no-advantage to it's use outside of creating a rather vile aftertaste in the mouths of those developers who are not "invited". I've heard the arguments for the list, and I can only say they are valid r

Re: [PHP-DEV] Register Shutdown Function for Apache

2003-01-23 Thread Brian Moon
+1 for me too. It seems a lot of people (like us at dealnews) built large time consuming applications around the concept of register_shutdown_function working like this. I would love to have this back. Brian Moon dealnews.com - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[PHP-DEV] php exception handling

2003-01-23 Thread Alex Mendelev
Hey, Are there any plans to implement proper exception handling in PHP? try / catch / finally throw throws Is anyone working on that? Thanks, Alex. -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] php exception handling

2003-01-23 Thread Andrey Hristov
This is scheduled for PHP5. Want to know when it will be released? -> This year Q3 or Q4 Regards, Andrey - Original Message - From: "Alex Mendelev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] php exception handling > Hey, >

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
Ok, I can't be bothered to fight a mailing list that was supposed to trim down endless discussions. I'm not the one that asked for the list, but I definitely supported it, as unlike most of the members on this list, I remember the pre-v4 days, and what kind of mountains we had to push in order

Re: [PHP-DEV] Register Shutdown Function for Apache

2003-01-23 Thread George Schlossnagle
What is the current state of the patches? I know there where a couple implementations discussed and discarded. It would seem to me to be impossible to endorse commiting them without seeing their current state. If the current patch you're running against 4.3.0 has been posted elsewhere on the

RE: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread James Cox
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Kalowsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I've heard the arguments for the list, and I can only say they are > valid reasons. But you're now making PHP a political project rather > than a software project. Thanks. This is the sort of thing I don't > want to

[PHP-DEV] PHP4.3.0 status of php4isapi.dll

2003-01-23 Thread Michael Bretterklieber
Hi, There is a bug entry for my radius PECL. Someone reported that he has problems starting IIS with this extension loaded with PHP4.2.3. I tested it with PHP4.3.0 and it works fine, so can I recommend other people using the php4isapi.dll with php4.3.0 or not? Somewhere I read that with php 4.

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Maxim Maletsky
I tend to agree about the fact that in Open Source people often spend more time on politics rather than developing. Imagine a company office where the programmers get paid per hour while spending tons of time at the round table of a meeting room throwing into each other what they like better and

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Brian Moon
| Imagine a company office where the programmers get paid per hour while | spending tons of time at the round table of a meeting room throwing into | each other what they like better and why. In open source this happens a | lot. hey, who let you in to the dealnews dev room? Brian. dealnews.com

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Maxim Maletsky
this email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Maxim Maletsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... : > | Imagine a company office where the programmers get paid per hour while > | spending tons of time at the round table of a meeting room throwing into > | each other what they like

[PHP-DEV] Why i believe we need final

2003-01-23 Thread Marcus Börger
The current OO implementation of ZE2 only allows dynamically binding of methods. That is all functions are inherited like if they were declared "virtual" in other languages. The thing we do not have is static binding of methods. First one could argue that we do not have a type system and On

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Ok, I can't be bothered to fight a mailing list that was supposed to trim > down endless discussions. I'm not the one that asked for the list, but I > definitely supported it, as unlike most of the members on this list, I > remember the pre-v4 days, and

RE: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Mike Robinson
Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Perception and warm fuzzies is an extremely important part of > a large open source project that relies heavily on a large > number of volunteers. Messing with that is playing with fire. You've hit it bang on. [noise] The clinical name for the 'fire' in this case is "cyc

Re: [PHP-DEV] roadmap of PHP - where? PHP 5 - when?

2003-01-23 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:08 24/01/2003, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: You should have learned this by now. Perception and warm fuzzies is an extremely important part of a large open source project that relies heavily on a large number of volunteers. Messing with that is playing with fire. I believe we can get work done o

[PHP-DEV] Possible threading issue in PHP

2003-01-23 Thread NAIK,ROSHAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
S/W Environment: HPUX 11.00, Apache 2.0 (worker model) , PHP 4.2.3 This one seems to be a hard to trace problem but easily reproducible. Basically, an Apache thread servicing a PHP request crashes when you access the main page (index.php) of phpMyAdmin. An entry similar to the foll. is seen i

Re: [PHP-DEV] php exception handling

2003-01-23 Thread Stig S. Bakken
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 18:41, Alex Mendelev wrote: > Hey, > > Are there any plans to implement proper exception handling in PHP? > > try / catch / finally > throw > throws > > Is anyone working on that? HEAD (in CVS) has try, catch and throw. No throws or finally. Throws has not been discussed

[PHP-DEV] PHP vs. Perl/Mason

2003-01-23 Thread Ray Hunter
Everyone, I was wondering if there are any perl/php programmers that have used mason. I am trying to get the advantages/disadvantages of each? I am pro PHP, but my does is pro perl. What does everyone think about the benefits of one over the other? Thanks, Ray signature.asc Description: Th