Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Björn Schotte
* Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > personally know at least two, not counting Zend Debugger. I'm sure there There is no Zend Debugger. I only know of "ZendIDE" which has a zend extension that seems to be a debugger. If there would be a "Zend Debugger", I could say "I want to purchase the Zend Debugger

Re: [PHP-DEV] [IANAL] Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
WF>> Personally, I found the Zend IDE a little slow and unresponsive WF>> on my windows box (most likely down to Java) and I am loath to Try using JIT-enabled JRE (IBM's?), it could improve things... WF>> I wonder how many other people out there in dev land would like WF>> to see it working in t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
WF>> The impression that I have is that the Zend Debugger is a closed WF>> piece of software, but the PHP debugger is still freely WF>> available from http://dd.cron.ru/dbg/ That's not "the PHP debugger", that's "a PHP debugger". You can write as many debuggers with different protocols as you wis

Re: [PHP-DEV] [IANAL] Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-03-20 14:22:54, Joey Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been told that the Zend Debugger license explicitly > prohibits such activity. I, for one, do not begrudge Zend trying to make > a little money. Just because some of us manage to live an idealistic > world does not me

Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-03-21 03:03:00, "Varun Shoor" wrote: > working on an Open Source IDE for PHP but from what i heard in the #php the > debugger protocol is no more open in PHP4? And only binaries are distributed > and above all it is illegal to reverse engineer the protocol. Why in the world > is this do

[PHP-DEV] [IANAL] Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Joey Smith
According to the DMCA [ § 1201(f) ], legal precedent [ see http://home.joeysmith.com/~joey/sony-v-connectix.html ], and common practice, there is nothing that prohibts a "clean room implementation". (http://www.boreworms.com/karellen/rev-eng.html). That said: PHP *is* open. The Ze

[PHP-DEV] Debugger protocol

2001-03-20 Thread Varun Shoor
Hi there,    I have been working on an Open Source IDE for PHP but from what i heard in the #php the debugger protocol is no more open in PHP4? And only binaries are distributed and above all it is illegal to reverse engineer the protocol. Why in the world is this done?... I mean PHP